Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

Looks good John! Right onthe money...

Now that's what I call a perfect paintjob, Joe! Are you using Gunze Acrylics or Lacquers? The pup's really cute!

John: I love the snake scheme 190s and you are building one mighty fine model there!

Ok, gents! The P-47 is finally off the bench and I'm back at the 190s now! Give me a week or 2 and most of them should have their wings glued on... I can't make any promises though - you never know if those Eduard kits need that bit of extra work to look good or not.

Black Dog...There is very little that I could find in my books about the Ta153. What I did find states that the Ta153 was to be a "new" type of aircraft, but Kurt Tank decided that due to the cost and time involved in retooling and development, he decided to turn to the tried and true FW190 for a starting point. Now... I am a tad confused on the next part of what I read, but what I gathered, He installed a body plug to lengthen the fuselage, and the DB engine which was said to have created the FW190-D, Then decided to install the DB603-A engine, (which they designated the FW190-C, AKA Ta153) and later added longer wings and MW injection to the engine which became the Ta152. That is about all I could find...along with a couple pictures...

Hope that helped abit, sometimes I find the further I dig into the Luftwaffe the more confused I become.

Take care...

Doug

Doug.  Thank you for the research that's way more than I could come up with. My research was equally confusing. I'm getting better at recognizing the 1-90/1/52 but some later 190 versions look like ta-152

And then you would expect the 1/53  to be after the 1/52 not the 1/190  like you said confusing.

Dang John!!! That plane is sharp!! I'm the same way as you with the flat coat and the weathering! I like to make em look used and abused these days since I've obtained a couple of neat tricks from you all!!

When I make a commitment I stick to it...ok if the time limit had been extended...and extended some more I wouldn't have been able to pull through...but here I am with my entry to what is shaping up to be one of the most successful FSM GBs ever. I just hope I can compete with all the awesome builds...ok...I know I can't, but lets have some fun anyway!!! Ha

My victim:



I'll be using the Aires resin cockpit and Montex Mask for Red 1




So...first FW. First full resin replacement cockpit, first mottle scheme...what could go wrong?

As stated this is the Aires cockpit set. This is my first time using Aires stuff and from what I've seen online I should be really thankful for the fit here. The turtle-deck was 100% drop in and the pit itself only needed some minor thinning on the sides.




Painted RLM 66 over black base. Highlighted with neutral grey dry-brushing and dark brown pin washes.

Not entirely happy with the harnesses...they are the PE variety and just don't sit as natural as I'd like.



The fuselage halves went together with zero fuss and the wings fit very well...so well in fact that they did cause a bit of an issue. They fit was so snug that until the joins were lubed with glue I had a hard time keeping them settled...but they cured up nicely. The coaming needs some touch up paint as I left a superglue finger print on it :-/




Paint work on the wheel well, engine plug and flaps was done as follows.

1. Painted RLM 02 over black base
2. Used a thinned mix of black and brown to dirty things up with highlights.
3. Dry brushed with a 50/50 mix of 02 and white
4. Pin wash of AK Interactive dark brown.

The metallic bits it the plug are various shades of Alclad

Nice work here. Leave the pe belts alone. They look pretty real to me. Besides, you wouldn't wanna upset the modeling gods and try to move them, you will be sorry. I know by experience.

Good work on that 190. Leave the belts alone like Nathan said. Gotta go to work , will post more later, Joe

She's looking fantastic! I think the belts look really nice (way better than anything I managed to do with PE belts).

Doing the same kit, yours looks fantastic !!

Everything looks absolutely fantastico from here dflu. Nicely done. I'm rather excited to see how those Montex masks work out. I've considered them and I would like to see them in action.

dflu, that looks really nice, great work on the cockpit. And those belts look good to me.

John, that looks awesome, even with then gloss.

Thanks everyone. I had been jacking with the belts to try to get them a little "better" to my eye, but like was said...I felt like I was tempting the modeling gods, so I left well enough alone. They aren't too bad.

JOE RIX

Everything looks absolutely fantastico from here dflu. Nicely done. I'm rather excited to see how those Montex masks work out. I've considered them and I would like to see them in action.

The mask are fantastic. They are vinyl and just a tad bit finicky, but so worth it. I used the Montex variety on the insignia on this P-40:

Every marking (just about) on this one is from vinyl mask (Scale Precision Masks)....they are exactly the same material as Montex, so work very similarly.

Handi, that interior tail detail is really cool! I'm having a blast watching your scratch building skills.

Thunderbolt, hope you post some pics showing how you deal with the fit issues. I know you'll have no trouble with your skill level. (I'd have fits)

Lawdog Joe, your exterior paint work never ceases to be a source of inspiration. Looks awesome!

John, love the decals and everything else. Looking fantastic, mate.

dflu, wow, when you start something you don't mess around! Great looking cockpit and I echo the others, I think the PE belts look great. You managed some natural looking bends and folds that have so far eluded me.

Wow dflu, those look awesome. Thank You for sharing the pics of your sweet P-40 and Spit.

JOE RIX

Wow dflu, those look awesome. Thank You for sharing the pics of your sweet P-40 and Spit.

I do apologize...I don't mean to be that guy who somehow always finds a reason to post pics of my past builds in threads...I know a couple of those guys are around the forums and I don't like them....However, the discovery of vinyl masking was really revolutionary for me. I hate decals, and have a tendency to fudge them a lot, so not having to worry about large ones really has made me a happy camper.

Hey dflu78. Really nice job on your P-40 and Spitfire man. I've got you jotted down in the intro post and am looking forward to seeing more of your build. Welcome to the GB dude!

dflu78

JOE RIX

Wow dflu, those look awesome. Thank You for sharing the pics of your sweet P-40 and Spit.

I do apologize...I don't mean to be that guy who somehow always finds a reason to post pics of my past builds in threads...I know a couple of those guys are around the forums and I don't like them....However, the discovery of vinyl masking was really revolutionary for me. I hate decals, and have a tendency to fudge them a lot, so not having to worry about large ones really has made me a happy camper.

Oh Man, do not apologize! I have absolutely no issue what so ever with folks posting pics of their other builds. Especially when it comes to demonstrating a technique, effect, method or product. Heck, I encourage it. Can't say as I have encountered anyone who posts past builds as a means to "strut their stuff". On the other hand can't say as I am an active cruiser of all parts of the forum and thus I just simply missed them.

Thanks for the compliments all.  I'm in for a quick update.  I'm slowly but sure making a little bit of progress now that the little black tinkle machine is sleeping through the night.  I added a bit more postshading since Mayer's 190 didn't have much mottling.  I also added some at the demarcation lines.  I think this is about right. 

I then hit it with a few coats of Alclad Gloss and after a few hours, I applied the Eagle Strike Decals with Mayer's JG 2 mount, #48-230 In Defense of the Reich Part 1.  I had no issues.  I did use the "rooster head" from my Eduard A-5 because I thought it looked a tad better than Eagle Strike's example.  Once the decals dried, I sealed them with more gloss. 

I must say I'm digging the early 190 scheme.  Onward to the fiddly bits...it shouldn't be long now. 

On a sad note, one of my Local Hobby Store haunts is closing up after 67 years in business and the owner has had everything 30% off lately.  The guy was (is) kind of a curmudgeon, but he always had a good selection of decals and aftermarket stuff on hand.  I will miss them.  If there's an ever so slight silver lining, I managed to pick up a Tamiya P-47M cheap the other day and I'm going to dive into that with a 56th FG bird after this guy.     

Joe

That's great looking work. Did you add extra to the motor or is that all kit. I haven't had a kit with that much.

So the mask you refer to are mask that you use to paint on markings instead of decals. ?

I have some german mask that came in a book with no instructions so I think this is what they are.

Greg.   Howdy how's the Edward kit coming along ?

I'm going to do 1 more build with you guys it's going to be a another hobby boss this time TA-152 c-1

There's not enough time to take on a nice Edward kit.

Sweet looking A-5 Joe. I agree, the earlier Luftwaffe schemes are a nice and simple break from all the dense, cluster-#$%^ed mottling schemes out there. The weathering you added looks right on.

Blackdog, good to have you back, and with a nice Tank this time. Looking forward to seeing it.

Yes sir.

I was just browsing thorough my PB account and saw I still had some pics up...this is what they look like:

As you can see you just build up layers in the case of multicolored items.

First layer for insignia on Spitfire:

All done...this is all masking

The paint looks killer on that A-5 Joe. And your right about the early on schemes as they were more straight forward camo patterns. Takes most of the work right out of it. Gloss is nice and shiny on this one!

dflu78: I've got a mask set like that for my 1/24 109 that I build a couple of years ago. I believe I got those from Poland.

dflu: You really don't have to apologize for posting such wonderful models in here! I have a set of Scale Precision masks for a special P-47, but it's going to take a while untill I'm at the painting stage... It actually looks easier than handling decals...

Joe: She's just perfect! Fantastic work all around! I'm sorry to hear that your LHS is closing. That Tamiya P-47M is an awesome little kit. I have one of them on it's way to me as well (I ordered it at HLJ a month ago, but they were out of stock). You can build an early D (like the normal Bubbletop kit), any other D (with the dive brakes and fin) or an M out of that beuty of a kit which kinda makes the D kit obsolete (they both cost the same)...

Joe: Your 190 is looking superb. I am definitely in high anticipation for your weathering process. By the way, what do you use as a gloss cote?

Blackdog: It is nice to see you jumping in with another entry. And a nice subject to boot. I've eyeballed that kit a few times when I have visited my near by LHS and I'm certainly curious to watch you build that up.

dflu: Thanks for the bonus pics. Certainly lends some clarification. As far as the RAF roundels go, I'd be afraid that I'd get them off center.

JOE RIX

dflu: Thanks for the bonus pics. Certainly lends some clarification. As far as the RAF roundels go, I'd be afraid that I'd get them off center.

Ha. That's  the absolute biggest issue with the masks for me....I'm obsessive about symmetry so I spend a good bit of time aligning things. When we get to that stage on my 190 I'll outline some tips for trying to line things up.

Lawdog Joe, I am drooling over your exterior. Awesome work. You guys make it look so easy.

blackdog62

Greg.   Howdy how's the Edward kit coming along ?

I'm going to do 1 more build with you guys it's going to be a another hobby boss this time TA-152 c-1

There's not enough time to take on a nice Edward kit.

Welcome back, BD. Progress slow at my end, but progress nonetheless. Want to finish by deadline, we shall see.