Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

My issue is the molting pattern. The color is annoying me because apparently it's a gloss of semi-gloss...and I absolutely HATE that...but that will be fixed...

I just did not care for the mottling so I went back upstairs and hit it with some 76 to cover up the ugliness.

Going to start over and try to get something along the lines of this:

http://hsfeatures.com/fw190d9dj_1.htm

Hey dflu, I guess I'm not grasping exactly what's making you feel ill at ease with your green paint job. Is it the color? The coverage? or maybe the mottling? It appears rather nicely done to me being as it is pre other colors and weathering. I'm sure once you get those other steps done it will come around to your liking.

What an excellent whirlwind of activity from you gentlemen. Just great stuff all around. Let's see if I can cover everyone with some well deserved kudos.

handi: The flaps do indeed look great. Certainly adds to the quality of your build.

Greg: It's just excellent to see some progress from you and to see you getting some bench time. Your progress looks really good. I had to have a chuckle with you concerning the missing tail planes. Getting old is such a delight. I have yet to complete a model without an "Oh Crap" moment.

John: The snake plane is looking better and better with each progress post. Love what your doing.

Joe: Magnificent 190. I really like the base you made for it. Your whole compilation is just beautifully done. As always, it is just an absolute pleasure to witness your builds and pick up a sweet little trick along the way. Thank you for sharing your skills and techniques with us.

dflu: Your approach seems to have produced some really nice effects. Nicely done.

Funny enough, Joe, I just started my Trumpy P-47 (1/32)...I'm doing Raid Hot Mamma. Can't wait to see your build thread!

Ok. Need you guys and gals now. I put down the light green and I'm not 100% sure I like it half as much as I should. Mind you, this is the fourth attempt. I sprayed over it and re-did it 3 or 4 times and this was the best I could do...I don't know...something just doesn't seem right. Maybe getting the dark green on and some clears and filters will bring it together?

HELP!! Honest thoughts please!!!

Thanks guys.  SS, I'll do a build thread on the Jug in aircraft section.  I should be starting it soon.  I'm  debating the 56th subject I want to build and perhaps adding Ultracast wheels and a seat.  

Joe

Joe (lawdog), fantastic 190. I see so many things that impress me away I cannot begin to attempt to list them.

dflu, progressing nicely and thanks for the progress pics.

Fantastic build Lawdog !!

Joe(lawdog):Man you really blew right through that one with Fermis speed!! I've gotta hand it to you man, you really have your weathering skills down along with the paint. It's a good looking build with an awesome base. Thanks for being a part of this group build buddy. I'll get you down in the intro pronto!

dflu:Outstanding work so far! I used to not preshade or apply a dark base but tend to do so more now. Sets a model apart from the "toy" like feature you described.

Joe -- glorious build, and a superb base! Fab quality all the way!

M/TB379

Dflu: Better safe than sorry! The pre- (or post?) shading on the 76 looks really nice!

Joe: Most impressive work as always! The finish is just about as perfect as you can get! Please post a link to the build thread once you start on the P-47...

Wow, Joe. Another stunner. Amazing paint work and weathering as expected. You know your way around an airbrush for sure.

Time to updated my build.

Time to lay down some RLM 76

You could say I'm a bit obsessive about over spray

I had nightmares that would make Wes Craven wet the bed about trying to get coverage over this red over-spray...Tamiya primer to the rescue:

So I will NEVER again abandon my black base coat approach. Here is RLM 76 over the very light grey primer. The 76 is on the fuselage and the primer on the wings. It was very hard to see if I was getting coverage...worst yet...NO DEPTH...the easiest way to make a model look like a toy...

Dflu don't preshade....but the color was so light without building up over black that I had to go back and essentially do so over the first coat of 76...with a dark grey....

Like magic we now have depth and variance in hue...ya...again...it's important to leave it more pronounced that what you'd like the final result to be...top coats will blend it in

Up next...RLM whatever the number of that light green is.....81? It escapes me 

Joe, love your 190!  Awesome paint and weathering!!

Steve

Dflu...stunning work. 

Handi...that camo looks awesome. 

Falcon....looks like your in the home stretch. 

Greg...Nice work on a challenging build.  Its should be all down hill from there.  I still have nighmares about my Eduard Dora. 

Except for an MIA pitot tube, I'm gonna go with done here.  To recap, its the 1/48 Hasegawa FW 190 A-5 in Egon Mayer's JG2 markings from the Summer of 1943.  Mayer was a 102 kill ace who was often refered to as the "father of the head on bomber attack".  Some may be familar with the June 26th 1943 incident where Mayer pumped all of his ammuntion into Robert Johnson's P-47C but it still wouldn't go down.  He then saluted Johnson and flew away.  Ironically Mayer would succumb to the guns of a Thunderbolt in March of 1944.  I've always been facinated with this incident and have wanted to do both these subjects. 

The kit was a breeze and the only extras were a True Details seat, Ultra Cast wheels, and Quickboost gun barrels.  The RLM 76 was mixed with Tamiya paint and the RLM 74, 75 is Gunze Aqueous.  Weather was done with a Flory wash and postshading all sealed with Testor's Dull coat.  I also added fine wire for brake lines and smoke colored invisible thread for the antenna.  I will fabricate a new pitot tube from brass tubing.

Thanks for having me again. You guys are some of the best modelers I've had the privilege to build with.  After several sraight Luftwaffe birds, I'm going to switch gears to one of my other favorite subjects, the P-47 and the 56th FG.    

Joe

Hey Greg, don't put the stabs on yet! It makes painting a whole lot easier. Just dry-fit them to make sure they fit well in the end.

That decal looks perfect, John!

John, that scheme is really cool and you are doing a wonderful job with it.

Thanks for the comments on mine, gents. I realised the middle of last night I got all excited about priming and totally forgot to install the horizontal stabilizers and rudder on the tail. (just in case anyone was wondering)

Joe, kinda slipped my mind the Stuka GB began the build stage on 4/1. I'll head over later. Thanks, mate.

handiabled

Looks fantastic Falcon !    Thanks for the kind words, I freehanded the whole plane, they always seem to look better when I just use my eye rather than putty or stencils with camo and such unless hard lines are called for ,, then the Tamiya tape comes out..  Looks like you got the snake on just right,, hard to do with the big decals

  The decals were very fragile.  It was funny on the actual plane the red and yellow colors seem to be mismatched and slightly mis registered, i think because of the cowling to fuselage gap.  I've been using stenciling to control the amount of over spray but still give me a feathered edge on the camo

Looks fantastic Falcon !    Thanks for the kind words, I freehanded the whole plane, they always seem to look better when I just use my eye rather than putty or stencils with camo and such unless hard lines are called for ,, then the Tamiya tape comes out..  Looks like you got the snake on just right,, hard to do with the big decals

Got some time on the bench this weekend and got some more decals on the 190.  Almost done with the top side decals, can't wait to get some dull coat on her.

John

Handiabled- your mottling looks fantastic,  is that free hand or did you use a stencil.

John

Looking like a great 190 Greg!  Can't wait too see color on! Thanks everyone for the kind words, as far as the flaps I just went with "what looked right" , I agree the Has kit version is a bit exaggerated.

Handi:Wow! That thing is really coming to life! That camo looks awesome so far!

dflu: I'll second Clemens comment on the flaps. They come down there pretty low but not close to 90 degrees. At this stage in your build I wouldn't change "jack you-know-what" though. I would risk messing that friggin' awesome paint work you've got on the bottom side of that thing up.

Greg:Now that's what I'm talking about brother! Nice masking BTW. Say , you should check out that Stuka build on the Stuka GB. You remember...............the one you got me. lol

Greg: Now that's some nice work! The finish looks perfect from here and I wouldn't be able to tell that this is your first attempt at an Eduard kit!

Dflu: Hasegawa did in fact goof up the angle big time. The flaps on the 190 go down quite a bit more than those on some other fighters, bt the angle is nowhere near 90º...

Handi: I'm totally digging that paint job! Amazing stuff! Those PE flaps look gorgeous as well!

Handi, everything is looking GREAT. Wonderful job on those PE flaps, mate.

Be interested if anyone can answer dfu's question. I've never seen flaps extend to 90 degrees, but then again I don't know that much about fighters and high performance aircraft.

A long overdue update from me...

Got some primer shot on my A8/R2 . Being my first Eduard kit, has been quite a challenge just getting to this point.

I am very happy with the way the surface detail shows up through the Tamiya Thin primer and was hoping to show it off. Sadly, my photo techique needs work with white on white subject.

Also, my first go using Mr Surfacer. Thanks to all for the recommendation. Stuff sands like a dream IMO.

Wow. Those flaps look spectacular. Just amazing. I'll have to use them on my next build for sure.

Leads me to a question though... The Hasegawa kit supplied flaps sit straight down and practically 90 degrees...clearly yours aren't that for down...and the look much better. Does anyone know if Hasegawa goofed the angel? Or that's just fully down maybe?

Gents AWESOME work !!!!   Great info coming in also. finally splashed paint on ... a quick look at pe flaps... now a coat of future and a couple day cure,,, getting there..

Thanks, guys! I'll start slapping putty on the A-8 when I get home from work this afternoon, and will press on with the 152 cockpit, which I made a start on last night also.

M/TB379

Dflu: The Zoukei-Mura 152 looks like a great kit. I have to build it yet but the parts look excellent and I only heard good things about it. The only problem seems to be with the lower wing panels - they need a bit of work to get the fit right.

Joe: May I ask what solution #51 is? I only know of #1-50 and #0. The latter would be to grab a big hammer and just beat the crap outta it. That's a last resort though (in case #1-50 don't work)...

dflu: Killer paint work on the undersides. Beautifully executed.

Mike: I hope the shim works out well. I do believe that that is solution #52 for mounting the engine/cowling on  an Eduard 190.

dflu, excellent work on that underside.

Mike, thanks for showing what it is taking to correct the alignment problems. Educational.

Awww yissss....I love the line of the Ta 152. Since I've learned that the ZM Anime boxing (the only one available anymore) is the same kit at the original release, I'm going to have to grab one.

That's looking really good so far, Thunderbolt.