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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by handiabled on Wednesday, April 2, 2014 6:17 AM

Doing the same kit, yours looks fantastic !!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, April 2, 2014 6:13 AM

She's looking fantastic! I think the belts look really nice (way better than anything I managed to do with PE belts).

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, April 2, 2014 5:37 AM

Good work on that 190. Leave the belts alone like Nathan said. Gotta go to work , will post more later, Joe

                   

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Posted by Nathan T on Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:07 AM

Nice work here. Leave the pe belts alone. They look pretty real to me. Besides, you wouldn't wanna upset the modeling gods and try to move them, you will be sorry. I know by experience.

 

 

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Posted by dflu78 on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:47 PM

When I make a commitment I stick to it...ok if the time limit had been extended...and extended some more I wouldn't have been able to pull through...but here I am with my entry to what is shaping up to be one of the most successful FSM GBs ever. I just hope I can compete with all the awesome builds...ok...I know I can't, but lets have some fun anyway!!! Ha

My victim:



I'll be using the Aires resin cockpit and Montex Mask for Red 1




So...first FW. First full resin replacement cockpit, first mottle scheme...what could go wrong?

As stated this is the Aires cockpit set. This is my first time using Aires stuff and from what I've seen online I should be really thankful for the fit here. The turtle-deck was 100% drop in and the pit itself only needed some minor thinning on the sides.




Painted RLM 66 over black base. Highlighted with neutral grey dry-brushing and dark brown pin washes.

Not entirely happy with the harnesses...they are the PE variety and just don't sit as natural as I'd like.



The fuselage halves went together with zero fuss and the wings fit very well...so well in fact that they did cause a bit of an issue. They fit was so snug that until the joins were lubed with glue I had a hard time keeping them settled...but they cured up nicely. The coaming needs some touch up paint as I left a superglue finger print on it :-/




Paint work on the wheel well, engine plug and flaps was done as follows.

1. Painted RLM 02 over black base
2. Used a thinned mix of black and brown to dirty things up with highlights.
3. Dry brushed with a 50/50 mix of 02 and white
4. Pin wash of AK Interactive dark brown.

The metallic bits it the plug are various shades of Alclad





















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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, March 31, 2014 8:56 PM

Dang John!!! That plane is sharp!! I'm the same way as you with the flat coat and the weathering! I like to make em look used and abused these days since I've obtained a couple of neat tricks from you all!!

                   

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Posted by blackdog62 on Monday, March 31, 2014 8:09 PM

Doug.  Thank you for the research that's way more than I could come up with. My research was equally confusing. I'm getting better at recognizing the 1-90/1/52 but some later 190 versions look like ta-152

And then you would expect the 1/53  to be after the 1/52 not the 1/190  like you said confusing.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, March 31, 2014 3:12 PM

Black Dog...There is very little that I could find in my books about the Ta153. What I did find states that the Ta153 was to be a "new" type of aircraft, but Kurt Tank decided that due to the cost and time involved in retooling and development, he decided to turn to the tried and true FW190 for a starting point. Now... I am a tad confused on the next part of what I read, but what I gathered, He installed a body plug to lengthen the fuselage, and the DB engine which was said to have created the FW190-D, Then decided to install the DB603-A engine, (which they designated the FW190-C, AKA Ta153) and later added longer wings and MW injection to the engine which became the Ta152. That is about all I could find...along with a couple pictures...

Hope that helped abit, sometimes I find the further I dig into the Luftwaffe the more confused I become.

Take care...

Doug

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, March 31, 2014 11:51 AM

Now that's what I call a perfect paintjob, Joe! Are you using Gunze Acrylics or Lacquers? The pup's really cute!

John: I love the snake scheme 190s and you are building one mighty fine model there!

Ok, gents! The P-47 is finally off the bench and I'm back at the 190s now! Give me a week or 2 and most of them should have their wings glued on... I can't make any promises though - you never know if those Eduard kits need that bit of extra work to look good or not.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, March 31, 2014 11:33 AM

Looks good John! Right onthe money...

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, March 31, 2014 9:07 AM

Nathan,

 Thanks,  the main snake body decal on the right side was very fragile,  it broke into about four sections.  it was like trying to herd cats with a twizzer and then add decal setting solution on top of it, to try to get them in place before they became to soft to move,  it was a challenge.

It will be fun to photograph my 1/72 #11 snake head 190 with this #8 snake head together.

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by Nathan T on Monday, March 31, 2014 8:58 AM

Very nice work John. You nailed those decals down perfectly.

 

 

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, March 31, 2014 8:18 AM

Handi and Joe,  thanks for the compliments.Big Smile

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, March 31, 2014 8:10 AM

Hot Damn John, That looks awesome. You certainly can do do a bang up job with decals my friend. I be to lovin' on your snake planes.

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Posted by handiabled on Monday, March 31, 2014 7:46 AM

Shiny or not it looks fantastic!

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, March 31, 2014 7:29 AM

Well I found a little time this weekend between car repairs and running errands to get some decals on. Just the little stuff left to but on then weathering, yeah.  Toast

Can't wait to flatten it and start the weathering,m the gloss is killing me.Bang Head

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, March 31, 2014 4:38 AM

Nayhan T, Rigidrider and Lawdog are the three names that pop into my head for info on those birds there blackdog.

                   

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, March 30, 2014 5:12 PM

Dose anybody have any info or pics of a TA-153 it's supposed to be another version of the 190 ?

And I think they had a 154 which was there version of the Brits mosquito. ?

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:25 AM

Law Dog... Paint is killer! Casey definitely not camera shy... but definitely cute!

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Posted by blackdog62 on Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:54 PM

Lawdog.  I got to  say you have the nack for putting down a smooth paint job.

Wow that is a lot of post this being my first BG I may be spoiled.   :)

I have to give credit to a lot of you guys for helping me. Much of what I did on my build I learned in this GB .

mustang. I'm going for another build with y'all I'll pick one out in the next day or so I'm thinking TA-152 not sure which one.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:45 PM

Absolutely gorgeous Joe. Very impressive paint and weathering. Your exhaust looks excellent to me . Sweet work.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:44 PM

Lawdog -- cute pup and fabulous Wulf! Nathan -- good thinking, I might give that a go if/when I put another of these birds together...

M/TB379

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Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:38 PM

Great work going on here guys! What a way to keep things going. Handi- You've got a knack for scratch building and adding detail.

Thunderbolt- I've never built the big Hase kit. On some of the older tool 1/48 Hase kits the cowling fit is similar. I've lessened the gaps by adding the lower cowling to the nose first, and adjust the gaps at the cowling ring attach later. Basically, I don't follow the multi-step cowling procedure in the kit instructions. Hope this helps if you ever build another one.

Lawdog- Great colors. Post shading and weathering looks cool. As does the yellow rudder amongst those RLM Grays.

 

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:07 PM

Dang it Joe! Your paint jobs come out almost immaculate!! That exhaust streaking looks good also. I didn't think to streak my exhausts on my A8/R2.

P.S. Do you guys realize we just went over 5000 posts as of the previous page? I never in my wildest dreams thought that a GB could make it that high in post count. Not only in post count but in the quality of the builds and conversation that has taken place in the last year and 3 months.

I again thank you all for making this GB what it is........Freakin' awesome!!!Big Smile

                   

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:28 PM

I'm getting caught up in here.  Thunderbolt, looking good.  I'm surprised your having issues with the cowl fit since the big Hasegawa 190 has been reported to have good fit.  I have that one in the stash so this is good to know.  Handi, thats some swell scratchbuilding there.  I look forward to seeing it all buttoned up.  Falcon, nice RLM paintwork.  You nailed the colors perfectly.

Anyways, I've been a wee bit preoccupied with this little peeing machine, "Casey".  I suppose its expected for a 10 week old German Shepard pup.  I took a week off work to get him housebroken, but its a slow process.  He keeps trying to nurse off our male 7 year old Goldendoodle "Oscar".  Oscar is  like WTF?? 

Needless to say the model bench has been lonely over the last week.  I did hit the bench last night for a bit.  I used Blue Tac to mask off the lines in preparation for the RLM 74.  I use this because I like the soft edge it leaves behind. 

I used Gunze for RLM 74  then added XF-57 Buff to lighten it for condensation streaks.  Once done, I removed all masks and posh shaded the panel lines, concenrating around areas that got especially.   dirty. 

Once I though it looked dirty enough, I sought to add the exhaust streaking which is common on 190's.  I started with XF-64 Red Brown then ran it back from each exhaust.  I then sprayed XF-66 Light Grey to simulate heat.  I was going for subtle here.  I think they turned out ok. 

I got some Quickboost gun barrels and Ultracast tires for this guy too. I home to get more bench time in soon.

Joe 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by handiabled on Friday, March 28, 2014 12:08 PM

Thunder I have no doubt you will get it looking great!  Herman opened the tail wheel access and detailed it with garbage laying on the bench.

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, March 28, 2014 11:15 AM

Ouch! I had one do like that and could do nothing but fill with plastistruct and melt with liquid glue...

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, March 28, 2014 8:24 AM

Mustang -- thanks for the info! I'm glad to see these kits do exhibit this tendency and it wasn't something I mucked up by lack of skill! I built the engine and cowling way back as a subassembly, same with the wing and cockpit, but bringing them together has been more challenging. It should be a beauty when it's done. but getting it there is a lot more work than a 1:48, that's for sure!

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, March 28, 2014 8:08 AM

John -- this is Hasegawa's 1:32nd scale A-8. The odd thing is, the cowling fit quite well around the engine, all tight and symmetrical... I expected that with the larger scaled, the error factors would become proportionally smaller, but it doesn't seem to have worked that way!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, March 28, 2014 8:07 AM

Thunderbolt379

Today I did some test fitting and measuring of the gaps. Here's what I had to work with:

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I hear you LOUD and clear on this part of the model. I always assemble the whole unpainted nose with something like Elmers glue or some sort of white glue that's easy to strip back off and then test fit. I realize that this aint helping you right now but in the future it will help you avoid this kind of thing. Next go round you can manipulate each individual panel or cut a little off of each panel t to reduce the amount of gaps especially in the cowl to upper wing area. In displaying opened up panels in a large percentage of my builds I have definitely benifitted from planning and fit   to keep from being a frustrated mess    and looking at my build like  .

                   

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