SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

564933 views
5865 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:42 PM

Blackdog, Stupendous FW 190. Very beautifully done. What a dynamite paint job you have done there. Also, the weathering is top notch. Sorry to hear about your issues with PB as I would love to see another awesome 190 from you. Thank for sharing your model and modeling skills with us.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

  • Member since
    September 2013
Posted by blackdog62 on Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:38 AM

Thanks for all t he kind words I learned a lot of # ones in this GB first learning the forums is one.

Using future. photo etch parts and fabrication of a new tail fin. My first brake lines and I even put a steel pin in my back wheel strut.

Nathan.   On the wing root I tryd to make it better I tryd sanding what I could from the inside to the point that I almost popd though into the wheel well. I didn't feel I had enough skill to tackle it from the outside.

Make a mess I couldn't hide :)

When I use the rich formatting tap I don't get the tool bar that allows us to post pics. Kalmbach publishing is working on it........or at least they was :(

I would like to build another one with you guys but with out that pic option it's not worth it.

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:36 AM

Thats a real nice model of black/blue 12! The camo is right on. Nice soft lines. The green 76 version looks perfect as well. Its a real pleasing model to look at. Great mottleing on the tail as well. All I can say is the seam line at the wing root/leading edge is somewhat visible and could be sanded and filled better next time. Nice work all around.

 

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:29 AM

Blackdog, sweet looking build there. Can't believe its your first completed build in so long.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:00 AM

I'd like to be the first to say that the paint job and weathering on that build is purely awesome blackdog!! Thank you for being a part of this group build and hopefully you get your issues with your computer/ photobucket worked out.

BTW the pic is posted proudly in the intro post blackdog.

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:59 AM

On behalf of blackdog here are his completed pictures and commentary that he sent to me via email. He had some sort of picture posting problem with PB. That place is more finicky than my dang dogs sometimes.

Blackdog ---well here is my fw-190d black 12 it was a lot of fun my first completed model in over 25 yrs. all paint used is from model master RLM color line and was put on free hand with a badger 150 with a fine needle and tip. its bin great fun building with all of you. if you dony want to pick wich one to go on the front page of the GB my pick would be the left side view

 

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:41 AM

Joe(lawdog): You're blowin' through that Hasegawa kit fast buddy!  I've seen builds here and over at SPAM done the way youre doing it here and it's always a pain, even to those of us who make it look easy, to close those access panels up to include all the nose pieces. Looks like youve got everything under control so far.

blackdog: I'll give a look/see and get those pics out here.

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    September 2013
Posted by blackdog62 on Friday, March 14, 2014 9:44 PM

Lawdog.        That's some fine looking work your doing the pit is top-notch  I know I could have did some more work on my wing roots yours is a good pic of how it should look. I'll try that on my next one.

MUSTANG.     I sent a few pics of my diminished build to your e-mail thank you for the option.

  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, March 14, 2014 9:15 PM

Greg?..Greg?..GREG!! Oh My Lord, We have a verified Greg sighting! Thought you had done vaporized or something. It is good to hear from you. How's that Eduard coming along?

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

  • Member since
    February 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, March 14, 2014 7:35 PM

mustang1989

Greg

Are you saying you did all this in one evening? (even with all the various clear coats etc?)

Knowing Joe......................yep!! Big Smile

Thanks guys for the compliments.  Greg, that is actually three hours of work (give or take).  I accomplish this by using mediums that dry very quickly.  The Tamiya paints dry almost immediately because I cut them with 91% Isoprophyl.  My gloss coat prior to the wash is Testors Gloss and its all sealed with Testors dull.  These are both cut with Lacquer thinner and they dry fast too, perhaps a half hour or so. Its just a matter of finding a system that works for you. 

I have an update.  Its not too much but its something.  I painted the gear bay Gunze RLM 02 and gave it a post shade.  I think Gunze has the best RLM colors.  Shame they disontinued the aqueous line.  I assembled the bay and attached the upper wings.  It does not appear that Mayer's A-5 had an external fuel tank (or maybe no A-5's did) so I did not drill the holes for this provisions.  There are pin holes on top of the wings which I think I'm supposed to fill in. 

 

After I sanded the seams, I then assembled the frame.  The starboard wingroot would not sit flush and I just couldn't figure out why.  Perhaps something was warped.  I ended up just pressing it down hard and Tenaxing it.  Its not perfect but good enough.  I then assembled the cowl.  I had I've heard the cowl on this kit is troublesome but I've had no such trouble on either this or the A-6 I built.  The key is to take your time and let the glue dry .  I attached the sides to the top with a touch of Tenax from the inside and let it dry for a few minutes.....then I added the bottom and front ring.  It fits the front fine.    

The one thing that I hate about Hasegawa and Tamiya 190 kits is the design flaw of the wing root cannon bays.  The wing root joint line goes right through them and its not supposed to be there.  Its a pain in the Censored to remove them too.  Eduard is the only company to do this right but those are a pain in another way, they dont fit good.  Anyways,  I taped off the detail and got to the arduous task of removing that joint line.  I filled the joint with super glue and sanded them smooth. I then rescribed in the lost panel lines, which tricky because of the curved surface.  This took forever but I think I got them to look acceptable.

Thats were I am so far.  I should start on the scheme soon. 

Joe   

 

 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, March 14, 2014 5:22 PM

Greg

Are you saying you did all this in one evening? (even with all the various clear coats etc?)

Knowing Joe......................yep!! Big Smile

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, March 14, 2014 10:57 AM

Your cockpits are still amazing me, Joe. Really nice again, this one.

Are you saying you did all this in one evening? (even with all the various clear coats etc?)

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:30 AM

Man I hear ya loud and clear there John! I don't konw how in the hell I got through with my D-9 with all the commotion going on before 5 a.m. at my house right now.I've got my Stuka I'm getting ready to get started on and it's going to be tough for a bit with the time factor. Good to see you back here building though and am looking forward to the continued building from you.

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    September 2011
  • From: Milaca, Minnesota
Posted by falconmod on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:07 AM

Ok, no pictures yet,  but after  what seems like forever I got the bottom paint on my snakehead 190!  between working to much, -20 degree days for weeks and broken cars I finally got some bench time.

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

  • Member since
    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:38 AM

Magnificent work on the office, Joe!

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:27 AM

..............and I'll second that motion on the three Joe's!

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:00 AM

Well Joe, It appears that you have cranked out yet another one of your fantastic cockpits. Marvelous work to say the least. And, yes, you are indeed in the realm of the Joe's.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

  • Member since
    October 2008
  • From: Georgia
Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:40 AM

1 word... AWESOME. Great start!!!

Doug

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:36 AM

Man Joe! Lookin' really good with that OOB pit there. Isn't just amazing how some of these kits practically put themselves together? The closest thing I came to OOB was my Dauntless I built around the turn of the year and that thing literally flew together! I'm definitely with you on the 190 pit. I threw a couple of add ons into the pit with pedals and PE IP but didn't waste a whole lot of time in there because of the same reasons you didn't. You just can't see in there once the fuselage halves are together.  I do like the  weathering and results from no add  on your build here bud!!

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    February 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, March 10, 2014 11:32 PM

Thanks for having me back guys.  I feel at home here amongst you guys (and Joes).  Are we still numbering the Joes here or am I thiking of another GB?  Anyways, I started the Hasegawa A-5 last night and I'm in for my first update. Nathan's is correct and the cockpit is great out of the box.  I painted it XF-1 Flat Black for shadowing then I used my own concoction of XF-63 German Gray mixed with XF-53 Neutral Grey.  I prefer my RLM 66 a bit lighter to show some weathering.  I used the kit instrument panel decal which worked great, much better than I could do.  The instructions said to scrape the surface but I don't know why.  The decals dropped right into the bezels nicely under Micro Sol.  The side consoles were detail painted and drybrushed with Floquil Old silver.  This looked ok to me so I decided to forego the decals here.  The seat is a True Details replacement.  Drybrush, gloss coat, wash, dullcoat, another drybrush.....done.  Here's how it turned out...

I inserted the cockpit and it fit without issue.  The fuselage was then sealed up.

Generally I just replace the seat (or add PE belts) because its the only thing that can be easily seen on the 190.  Adding a resin pit in this scale seems like a waste to me.    See, the seat just jumps out at you while everything else is hiding in the shadows...

  

I hope to start on the wings and gear bay soon.  Again, thank you for having me back....

Joe 

 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:38 AM

Joe (Rix): That base looks awesome! I have to try something like that myself at some point. Maybe for one of my 1/32 Jugs when I finally get to building one?

Joe (Lawdog): It's great to have you back with another 190!

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 8, 2014 5:10 AM

...............and Joe (lawdog). You are now on the intro post list dude! Looking forward to your build and seeing you back in here.

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 8, 2014 4:58 AM

Hey Joe. Got your pic posted and sorry about the delay. Hell I didn't even have my D-9 posted up there yet! LOL

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, March 7, 2014 11:50 PM

Thanks Eric. I hope you give it a try sometime. It's really kind of fun.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, March 7, 2014 8:56 AM

Joe , I'll get it on the intro post today man!! Good choice!

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Friday, March 7, 2014 8:13 AM

Beautiful work Joe on both the kit and the base!! I havent worked up the nerve to try any kind of ground work yet.

Eric

 

  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, March 7, 2014 7:02 AM

Joe: Thanks Buddy. I hadn't considered replacing my wall of fame photo. Since you asked, yea, sure. Use this photo if you would as it's a better photo of the 190.

Nathan: Thanks. It's the sprinkle on turf. It's held in place with the spray on adhesive that comes with the starter kit. You spray on adhesive between each type of turf you apply. It's quite easy.

Joe: It is excellent seeing you in with another 190. Nice follow up to your gorgeous Corsair and Ju 88.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

  • Member since
    March 2012
  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, March 7, 2014 4:03 AM

YES!!! Good ol' Joe (lawdog) is back in here with us!!! I'll get you down on the roster Joe! Welcome back!

                   

 Forum | Modelers Social Club Forum (proboards.com) 

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:33 PM

Joe Rix- Excellent ground work. I've only experimented with ground work a little bit here and there, but never made a dedicated base before. How did you glue on the groundwork? Is it the type of grass that you just sprinkle on, or is it a solid matt?

Lawdog, welcome back! Nice kit choice. The Hase kit really doesn't need any aftermarket. Wheels just for kicks maybe, and possible UltraCast's new spinner, just to help improve the look up front. I've used those True Details seats in both the Hasegawa and Eduard 190 kits, and they fit fine.

 

 

  • Member since
    February 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:25 PM

Hello friends, I have a tendency to go on "Luftwaffe binges", meaning sometimes I just can't stop building them.  Therefore, I would like to throw my hat back in this ring for yet another 190, this time the 1/48 Hasegawa A-5.  It will be in the markings of 102 kill ace Egon Mayer of JG2, the "Father of the head-on bomber attack".    Some may also be aware of the incident with 56th FG Robert Johnson, when Mayer pumped Johnson's P-47 full of lead and it still wouldn't go down, which essentially denied Mayer his 69th victory.  Ironically, Mayer would perish in battle with Thunderbolts in March of 1944.  Mayer's A-5 was a run of the mill 190 so it should be a fairly easy color scheme to duplicate. 

I'm not sure about aftermarket yet, but I do have a True Details seat in my resin stash.  Its for the Tamiya kit but it will probably work fine here.  I will probably add Ultracast wheels and be done with it.  I hope to jump into this one soon...

Joe 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.