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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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  • From: Perth, WA
Posted by NeedBeer on Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:40 PM

Nathan T - thanks for the uTube link, interesting stuff!

Jester - thanks for the wash tip, great result on your build! Very timely from my point of view, just had a bad experience on a recent build where  i managed to wash off some of my enamel paintwork  after applying Alclad Gloss and laquer wash mix. Forgot the basics - I like this ink and soap idea!

Here is my contribution to this GB, two 1/48's , boxes open, one Hasa A-4 from Russian front in white scheme, the Arii is an A-8.will get the ball rolling today!

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1/48 F-22 Raptor; F-22 Idolmaster,  DH Vampire, Saab Gripen 

1/72 C-130 Hercules; Vulcan 

1/350 Bismarck

 

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  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Friday, March 29, 2013 8:08 AM

Thanks Nathan for the info and the kind words!! That panel line should be easy enough to add and wash even at this point in the build. Funny thing is, I had scribed it once already but after glancing at teh Eduard drawings and seeing it was missing I filled and sanded it back smooth.

Thanks Need!! Yeah, this wash is the most simple thing to make and apply and get good results. I always use Testors Lacquer gloss before decals and to seal the decals and this stuff wont begin to phase it when you go to remove the excess! Can't wait to see what you do with those 190's!

Eric

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, March 29, 2013 11:29 AM

Got started the other night, I really do like the Hasagawa kits, So far no issues and nicely detailed. As always, if availadle I like to start with the engine. Hope the BMW Radial comes out well. I've not done one in awhile, They wrote in one book I'm reading that a pilot with Jg51 one time brought his 190 home after combat and landed safely with 2 cylinders shot completly away.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, March 29, 2013 3:35 PM

Yeehaw, I see I've got a bit of catching up to do.

Eric - Now I like that. It would seem that you have an excellent idea there that I just may have to try out. The effect is outstanding.

Rigid - Nicely done engine. Looks excellent.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:48 AM

Rigidrider: Hey buddy. Got you entered in on the opening post and MAN! Nice job on the engine! Looks to be another great build out of you. Good seeing you back in here building.

Needbeer: I have you down in the intro post as well. Nice looking kits. Cant wait to see the builds.

Jester: Eric I saw your ink based wash for the panel lines and that looks great. Those panel lines came out superb!

lawdog: Another vote for the Tamiya D-9 from your post a page back! I  have to say again that I completely agree. Will comment more on this in a sec.

Everybody: Well folks just trying to catch up with all the activity on here. Getting back into the swing of things with stuff around the house, work and of course---modelling. I finished up with my mottle on the A8 two days ago, painted the 76 on the lower sides and bottom yesterday and masked and painted the black exhaust panel on the port side today. The latest most breaking news however came in the form of a box that arrived for me in the mail yesterday. I received my Tamiya D-9!  I only hope I can squeeze this into the GB. Its a great looking kit so far as I can tell in the box. Folks like Eric, Doug and Matt got really looking at building one of these things. Still waiting on the Airies engine/cockpit update set from luckymodel. I've got time on that due to the fact that I still have my hands full with this Eduard build.

Aside from that there are some good things happening in here. Absolutely love this group build thanks to you all who ultimitely make it happen with all of your input,participation and just making this an overall fun experience, Joe

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:19 AM

Hey Joe...(Mustang) Good to see YOU back. So glad you are doing a Dora. I think youll like it. What scale is it? You probably already have some good ideas as to what to build, But if not,(just a hint) look to Jg26. They were the Luftwaffe's "Top Guns" and have many great looking Doras to choose from.

Looking fwd to your choice.

Joe (Rix) ...Thanks bud... More to come I'm sure (from you too?) Gotta love those 190's! My favorite from the Luftwaffe.

Thanks loads guys! Back to building!!!

Doug

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  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:36 AM

Thanks Joe²!! Stick out tongue

Rigid, that engine is looking pretty good!!

Eric

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 30, 2013 3:28 PM

Rigidrider

So glad you are doing a Dora. I think youll like it. What scale is it? You probably already have some good ideas as to what to build, But if not,(just a hint) look to Jg26. They were the Luftwaffe's "Top Guns" and have many great looking Doras to choose from.

Looking fwd to your choice.

Hey Doug. Well its a 1/48th scale. As for which one to build....I dunno yet. Got a lot of choices. I do have that double throw down Airies update set to display a full engine, gun bays and other details though. You know me.....gotta display the insides!  Will let you all know on that one though.

                   

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Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, March 30, 2013 4:42 PM

Whatever scheme you decide for the dora just stay away from Tamiya's decals!

 

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:08 PM

That is an affirmative there Nathan! Will go with Eagle cals most likely.

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:48 PM

Need Beer... Great looking kits! Naturally the Hasagawa will be more detailed to begin with, But I'll tell ya, I've built my share of Arii kits and with a little PE ,Resin and a lot of detail time to work Arii kits are nice! I sometimes had rtather take a Arii and put the savings into PE and Resin (BigED has some great all in one detail kits)  and work the dickens out of the Arii, I still have a few in stash. Looking forward to your WIP!

Joe(1) I would expect nothing less from you!(lol) What ever you choose it will turn out great.

Thanks all for checking out my humble start... Got some more done, Just hav'nt got pictures down loaded yet. Man, speaking of that... What the EF happened to Photo Bucket??? What a flaming pile of dog squeeze! They took a fairly reasonable and easy to use site and really buggered it up! I am considering using another site but I'm afraid it will wipe out all the previous posting... Gotta let it ride for now I guess.

Sorry about the rant but I mean ...Just... DAMN

Doug (RR)

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, March 31, 2013 12:24 AM

Hey Doug. I've gotten used to the photo bucket thing. Just hover your mouse pointer in the upper right hand corner of your picture when you are viewing the pic in the albums section. You'll see a little gear icon appear. Click that and a drop down list will appear. Click the "links" selection and then a drop down list will appear. The second one down is direct. Click in that box and it will display "copied". After that it all works the same in FSM. Just in case you were still trying to figure it all out in photobucket. I know though.....it took me a couple of times.

                   

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:31 AM

Holy Cow!! While checking my email the past couple of days I was taken by the fact that there was no activity from the GB. Well, upon going  to clear my junk mail I find that my Hotmail filter had been classifying everything from FSM forums as junk! Hopefully got that rectified. Definitely a "What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports" was that all about!

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Perth, WA
Posted by NeedBeer on Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:38 AM

Hey Rigid your comments about Arii kits make good sense!

I'm not sure about the accuracy but its not a bad little kit, nice hard plastic and detail looks ok. I've almost finished the assembly, fits together like a dream, ready for pre shading now. A little bit of flash on one two parts easily cleaned up , some sink marks inside the cockpit never to be seen. The cockpit detail scrubbed up quite nicely after dry brushing but except for IP panel will also never be seen, the seat has moulded belts which will do for me.

The instruction sheet is predominantly Japanese with limited English, no idea what colour references are - used my Hasa instruction sheets to get an idea. One question to the members here - instructions show a decal location on the armour shield(?) behind the seat - the only one I can see on the decal sheet is a red one with three lines of nonsensical print, it seems disproportionately large. Can't see one on any of my other kits, is there supposed to be one ?

The decals are a bit off colour so may have to source some more or paint my own?

The major disappointment is the canopy and windshield, very thick and marked, not very clear.Have started work with micro mesh, hopefully will clear up? Might attempt to make my own otherwise, or any AM suggestions welcome?

It was not my intention to do any AM parts here but will see how it goes? It was in the stash and my thinking is it will never be built if I start the better kits first, hence the dual build and will be able to draw my own conclusions this way - took some pics earlier, will post these tomorrow

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, March 31, 2013 12:32 PM

NeedBeer, Yes, There is a red warning label on the armor shield. It says "Caution! Canopy is jettisoned by an explosive charge." Hope that helps.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:18 PM

OK folks... Got some more done this weekend, The pit is almost all resin, Just a few Hasagawa parts used.

Well, thats about it for this weekend. Starting on the engine and pit to fuselage fit next... Hope you all had a Good Easter, and a good weekend... Take care!

Doug 

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:47 PM

Doug,

Great looking cockpit!  Can't wait to see more!

Steve

 

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:06 PM

Nice work on that pit Doug!!

Eric

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:03 PM

Yes!!! Nice work on the pit area Doug!! Love that resin stuff!! Which update kit is that??

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, April 1, 2013 4:54 AM

Thanks guys,,, This is the first time I havn't had to do major surgury to get one to fit. Its a TrueDetail set for the Hasagawa 190A series... As far as fit issues there were a few, but minor.The only thing I had hoped for was sone PE, but there wasn't any for this set.

Thanks again... Oh, It wasnt all that expensive either, somewhere aroung $15.00.Some day I want to toss expense to the wind and do a super detail set from possibly Aires or CMK.

Well gotta go... Work day today! LOL

Doug

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, April 1, 2013 5:36 AM

Thats not a bad little set there Doug and for the price you can't beat it. Well yesterday all I did was apply the black for the exhaust panel on the starboard side. Today I masked the fuselage off for the application of the Defense of the Riech bands. Man what a chore that was. I didn't know what I was getting into! Got it done though and applied the white part of it this morning. Will mask and apply the black half of it tommorrow morning.

                   

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, April 1, 2013 6:01 AM

Doug, That is a beauty of a cockpit. Very well done especially the weathering.

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Posted by NeedBeer on Monday, April 1, 2013 6:25 AM

WiP

1/24 Hawker Hurricane Mk I

1/48 F-22 Raptor; F-22 Idolmaster,  DH Vampire, Saab Gripen 

1/72 C-130 Hercules; Vulcan 

1/350 Bismarck

 

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Posted by NeedBeer on Monday, April 1, 2013 6:27 AM

The intelligence of Apple - should be pre shading, not persuading, although it might be required later!

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1/24 Hawker Hurricane Mk I

1/48 F-22 Raptor; F-22 Idolmaster,  DH Vampire, Saab Gripen 

1/72 C-130 Hercules; Vulcan 

1/350 Bismarck

 

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  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Monday, April 1, 2013 6:38 AM

Looks like its going together very solid Need!! I see what you were talking about on those clear parts, definitely going to need some love there aren't they? Oh and who hasnt had to do some persuading on a kit or two??? I can think of a certain Hurricane that required a lot of persuasion.

Eric

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, April 1, 2013 4:29 PM

Need beer... Yeah, I think that I'd be looking to another kit or perhaps someone here might have a spare they'ld part with... I believe that that problem is caused by recycled Cycolac plastic that wasnt heated properly and injected under enough pressure. You also have to add a certain amount of new material to the recycled, I used to work at Model Products Corp as a much younger guy, I worked in molding and later in the plating dept. But any way, I still like the Arii kits for the price! Keep up the good work.

Joe R(2?) ha... Thanks bud, I'm getting to where I prefer to dry brush now more then any other way of weathering, and with metalizing paints, If you have never drybrushed, Get a cheaper stiffer bristle brush, dip lightly in your weathering color and dab brush on tissue (bristles tip first) until nearly all the paint is gone then just start daubing your areas gently until you achieve the desired effect.

Joe (1) Sounds great. looking forward to pictures,

More to come!

Doug (RR)

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, April 1, 2013 6:21 PM

Thanks Doug, I am no stranger to dry brushing and I too use that technique on every model somewhere, somehow.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, April 1, 2013 9:40 PM

Needbeer:Man it looks like you have your hands full. With some TLC and patience it can yield a great build. Looks like you have just about caught up with me!!!

Rigidrider: Like the drybrushing effect. Nice detail on that thing. Can't wait to see another good build coming together.

Joe Rix:Pics man....pics.  Would love to see some updated progress out of you. lol.  I know youv'e been busy with comany and all and totally get the model distractions. God knows I've had plenty over the last month and a half!!!

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, April 1, 2013 9:44 PM

Ok folks. Now for a small update from my end of the world. Really been getting down and dirty with my build as I have been out of action for a while now. I've been putting anywhere from 2 to 2 -1/2 hrs per day on it just to get a little caught up with the rest of you guys here. Got the Reich bands painted on and while I'm no Picasso.....I dont feel I did that bad. Here goes.......................

                   

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Posted by Nathan T on Monday, April 1, 2013 9:51 PM

Mustang, that looks sweet. Great painting. The freehand work is really paying off. Doug, sweet cockpit. From time to time True Details puts out a resin gem and you've turned this one into a masterpiece.

Beer man- Nice work on the Old Arii kit. You gonna try and Future those canopies or get some replacement ones?

 

 

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