mikeymize

Hey Ken, thanks for the hyperlink to the paint guru. I'm always getting educated on model related stuff so it's good to have another resource. I know humidity can be a pain in the keyster when it comes to painting as I have lived in the Mid-South for quite a while. I'm posting pics of the Bf-109 WIP The cockpit is done in RLM 02 grey with various colors to liven things up.

I was inspired to do this build after reading a new biography of Hans-Joachem Marseille a few months back. Amazing pilot. Wish he'd flown for us. Even though he was on the side of the "Bad Guys" he has my admiration.

Nice work Mike!  That is looking great!

Yes, I have always admired the Germans, especially with their technology that they developed during WWII.  It is just sad that they were led by a sadistic madman!

So how are you feeling?

Ken

Looking good, Mikey!  Never had much interest in building anything but bombers but I suppose fighters did do some useful things during the war .

Good job!

Russ

Son Of Medicine Man

mikeymize

Hey Ken, thanks for the hyperlink to the paint guru. I'm always getting educated on model related stuff so it's good to have another resource. I know humidity can be a pain in the keyster when it comes to painting as I have lived in the Mid-South for quite a while. I'm posting pics of the Bf-109 WIP The cockpit is done in RLM 02 grey with various colors to liven things up.

I was inspired to do this build after reading a new biography of Hans-Joachem Marseille a few months back. Amazing pilot. Wish he'd flown for us. Even though he was on the side of the "Bad Guys" he has my admiration.

Nice work Mike!  That is looking great!

Yes, I have always admired the Germans, especially with their technology that they developed during WWII.  It is just sad that they were led by a sadistic madman!

So how are you feeling?

Ken

I also admit I admire what the Germans were able to accomplish, and the machines they had. On the other hand I can't abide by the things they did.

I saw something a while back about Germany trying to develop a so called 'Amerika Bomber'. A bomber with enough range to reach targets in the US. The idea being that this would force the US to divert resources to defense and take pressure off Europe. Possible targets would have been factories where airplane parts were made. or what if they had bombed New York? Unfortunately for them, they ran out of resources before they could develop one.

Yeah, you have to admire the Germans for their ambition if not their practicality. I mean they couldn't keep their tanks in the field repaired but they had plans to introduce the 180 ton Maus superheavy! 

The Japanese fooled around with an America bomber too, one four engine and one six. Neither of course got very far off the drawing board.

Awesome pics of the Japanese long range bomber. That thing looks huge and would have to be just to store enough fuel let alone a decent bomb load to make the trip worthwhile. As far as the injury goes I'm doing a more aggressive therapy with a stream of saline jetted into the wound bed to help increase more vascular growth. It's not too bad considering but certainly not something I relish! Thanks for the concern and well wishes.

jimbot58

 

I also admit I admire what the Germans were able to accomplish, and the machines they had. On the other hand I can't abide by the things they did.

I saw something a while back about Germany trying to develop a so called 'Amerika Bomber'. A bomber with enough range to reach targets in the US. The idea being that this would force the US to divert resources to defense and take pressure off Europe. Possible targets would have been factories where airplane parts were made. or what if they had bombed New York? Unfortunately for them, they ran out of resources before they could develop one.

I saw a documentary on the Military Channel that discussed how that 'Amerika Bomber' was going to carry a dirty nuclear bomb as it's payload.  It was not going to have enough fuel to make the journey back though.  The idea was to land in the ocean and the crew was to be picked up by a submarine.  Shows how seriously close the war was.

Ken

Gamera

Yeah, you have to admire the Germans for their ambition if not their practicality. I mean they couldn't keep their tanks in the field repaired but they had plans to introduce the 180 ton Maus superheavy! 

The Japanese fooled around with an America bomber too, one four engine and one six. Neither of course got very far off the drawing board.

 

Hi Cliff,

Nice pictures indeed!

One of the members of the local IPMS chapter is really into the WWII era Japanese and German experimental aircraft.  He will constantly bring in either models or literature on the subjects.  I seem to recall that the Japanese did in fact started building a 4 engine long range bomber capable of reaching the west coast of the United States.  If I remember correctly they cancelled it when they lost Guam since they needed it as a base to reach our coast.

Ken

mikeymize

Awesome pics of the Japanese long range bomber. That thing looks huge and would have to be just to store enough fuel let alone a decent bomb load to make the trip worthwhile. As far as the injury goes I'm doing a more aggressive therapy with a stream of saline jetted into the wound bed to help increase more vascular growth. It's not too bad considering but certainly not something I relish! Thanks for the concern and well wishes.

That sounds painful Mike!  Ouch!  I hope this doesn't last long.

Ken

Mike: Saline injections- interesting- never heard of that therapy. Best wishes on your continued recovery.  

I'd guess you'd have to use something like a dirty bomb. Any continuing bomber campaign without fighter support seems like it would be suicide for any German or Japanese aircraft that far from home.

Wow, Mikey! That sounds like that injury was really serious! Hang tough!

As to the 'Amerika Bomber' I don't know if it intended to be a campaign, because one plan was to drop one of these dirty bombs on a US city and this would be a blow to the morale of the people and hopefully hamper the US efforts overseas. Kind of sounds like an act of desperation to me. The war was not going so good for the Germans by that time...

Another plan was to have these bombers carry another aircraft as a parasite, and this would then attack US targets. These planes would also be ditched and the crews picked up by U-boats. Also was mentioned the possibility of kamikaze type missions....though what would they call them? I can't imagine German pilots flying off on "Divine Wind" missions, scarves tied around their heads emblazoned with a swastika and yelling "Selbstmord!" (German for suicide)

Lol, very true!

Amerika bomber aside, seems it would have made more sense to me if you had a dirty bomb to have dropped the thing on Moscow. From what I've heard in order to maintain total control the communists routed EVERYTHING though Moscow- railroad lines, roads, communications, plus being the head of the NKVD (KGB of the time). Taking Moscow off the table would have crippled the Soviet war effort giving Germany much more breathing room at worst and forcing Stalin to a negotiated truce at best.  

Gamera

Lol, very true!

Amerika bomber aside, seems it would have made more sense to me if you had a dirty bomb to have dropped the thing on Moscow. From what I've heard in order to maintain total control the communists routed EVERYTHING though Moscow- railroad lines, roads, communications, plus being the head of the NKVD (KGB of the time). Taking Moscow off the table would have crippled the Soviet war effort giving Germany much more breathing room at worst and forcing Stalin to a negotiated truce at best.  

Gamera

Mike: Saline injections- interesting- never heard of that therapy. Best wishes on your continued recovery.  

I'd guess you'd have to use something like a dirty bomb. Any continuing bomber campaign without fighter support seems like it would be suicide for any German or Japanese aircraft that far from home.

And we can't forget about the Aleutian Islands Campaign, or the "Forgotten Battle".  Nasty battle in biter conditions.  Many people died from the cold alone.

Ken

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Mike: Saline injections- interesting- never heard of that therapy. Best wishes on your continued recovery.  

I'd guess you'd have to use something like a dirty bomb. Any continuing bomber campaign without fighter support seems like it would be suicide for any German or Japanese aircraft that far from home.

And we can't forget about the Aleutian Islands Campaign, or the "Forgotten Battle".  Nasty battle in biter conditions.  Many people died from the cold alone.

Ken

I think we could agree that the Germans had a lot of plans and ambitions, but lacked the resources, time, and proper leadership to execute them all.

I have managed here and there to work some at the bench.

I applied glosscoat, decals and a black wash to help bring out details to the Panzer. This photo makes it look almost black, but it isn't. Have to see how it looks after a dull coat is applied and lighten up the camera settings if needed.

Then there is the other project that I started:

Yes, I'm sure that the wing shape gives it away. Academy's JU87-G "Tank Killer". You can see where I'm adding a bit of interest to the cockpit. I mostly am just guessing as there doesn't seem to be a great deal of reference photos out there. Most are black and white, and the fact that there are only two surving intact Stukas in the world, there wasn't much to go on. Most of the other photos were of other model builder's work and every one was different. Naturally, there is no swastika provided for the tail, or even those ones you assemble like a puzzle, and even the box art shows a black diamond where one would go. However, I think I can come up with something:

Now which one....?

jimbot58

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Mike: Saline injections- interesting- never heard of that therapy. Best wishes on your continued recovery.  

I'd guess you'd have to use something like a dirty bomb. Any continuing bomber campaign without fighter support seems like it would be suicide for any German or Japanese aircraft that far from home.

And we can't forget about the Aleutian Islands Campaign, or the "Forgotten Battle".  Nasty battle in biter conditions.  Many people died from the cold alone.

Ken

I think we could agree that the Germans had a lot of plans and ambitions, but lacked the resources, time, and proper leadership to execute them all.

I have managed here and there to work some at the bench.

I applied glosscoat, decals and a black wash to help bring out details to the Panzer. This photo makes it look almost black, but it isn't. Have to see how it looks after a dull coat is applied and lighten up the camera settings if needed.

Then there is the other project that I started:

Yes, I'm sure that the wing shape gives it away. Academy's JU87-G "Tank Killer". You can see where I'm adding a bit of interest to the cockpit. I mostly am just guessing as there doesn't seem to be a great deal of reference photos out there. Most are black and white, and the fact that there are only two surving intact Stukas in the world, there wasn't much to go on. Most of the other photos were of other model builder's work and every one was different. Naturally, there is no swastika provided for the tail, or even those ones you assemble like a puzzle, and even the box art shows a black diamond where one would go. However, I think I can come up with something:

Now which one....?

Looking good Jim, as always!!

I will be starting on a second project myself.  That F-84E!  More on that later.

Ken

Jim, those look good!

Yeah, the Panzer IV does look pretty dark but I know what you mean about the camera and lighting changing the shade on the subject. The wash looks good.

On the Ju-87 you've got some nice work going on there in the cockpit. I build one of the tank killers back in my teen-age years- I remember taking a hot needle and punching holes in the tail where 'Red Army ground fire had hit the low-flying plane'. A bit overscale now that I look back but I thought it was the coolest idea at the time. I'd just try to match the swastika of the same size to the one on at the top of the decal package front.

Ken: Ohhhh the F-84- I've been watching a bunch of Korean War stuff recently that got me interested early US jets- sounds cool!

And yeah I know all about starting new projects- I said I wouldn't, I promised myself I wouldn't- but after picking up a Trumpeteer T-62 at a great sale price as a birthday present to myself I had to pop the box and start on the thing. Now I'm about half done- must focus and finish the helicopters!!!!

Great work Jim. I understand the challenge of Ju-87 interior pics. I have a lot , and I do mean a lot of Stuka books and only found one that had any color shots It's from Mushroom Model's yellow series No. 6125. I'll try to get some pics of the pics (huh?) and post them tomorrow after work. From what I know, it's pretty standard Luftwaffe stuff; mostly some grey, black etc.

FYI medical update: still healing, long road ahead on that. Doc said I really won't have full use for several months but I am making progress. At least it doesn't prevent model building!

Ouch Mikey! Hang in there, bud. We're pullin for ya!

Russ

Mike: Yeah it's good that you have at least some use. I think it helps recovery that you can work and exercise it to get some of the mobility back. And modeling does keep your mind off things.

Still getting little done despite being off this week. I spent the last several days dealing with estate problems and I am just drained by the whole situation. I did do a bit of work on the Panzer, misting on some flat white to lighten it up and give it a bit of a faded look.

I also lighted up the image so it's not so dark. You can also see I been painting up some of the details-axe, crank, tools, etc. There are also some that get attached that I'm working on. Kind of accidental that some of my exterior wash bled through to the inside of the commanders cupola but it actually looks ok.

Jim: Looks good! Adding the white like that is pretty much the same thing as pre-shading and gives much more interest to something let plain panzer grey or olive drab. Looks like you just need to add the wheels and treads and you're done!

Gamera

Jim, those look good!

Yeah, the Panzer IV does look pretty dark but I know what you mean about the camera and lighting changing the shade on the subject. The wash looks good.

On the Ju-87 you've got some nice work going on there in the cockpit. I build one of the tank killers back in my teen-age years- I remember taking a hot needle and punching holes in the tail where 'Red Army ground fire had hit the low-flying plane'. A bit overscale now that I look back but I thought it was the coolest idea at the time. I'd just try to match the swastika of the same size to the one on at the top of the decal package front.

Ken: Ohhhh the F-84- I've been watching a bunch of Korean War stuff recently that got me interested early US jets- sounds cool!

And yeah I know all about starting new projects- I said I wouldn't, I promised myself I wouldn't- but after picking up a Trumpeteer T-62 at a great sale price as a birthday present to myself I had to pop the box and start on the thing. Now I'm about half done- must focus and finish the helicopters!!!!

Hi Cliff,

Happy birthday!!       

And congratulations on scoring your present.  This may be a little late but there is some deals still to be had over on Squdron's website.  They have some stuff at a really good price.  Just go to their main page:

http://www.squadron.com/ 

and click the "Clearance" link near the top.

Ken

mikeymize

Great work Jim. I understand the challenge of Ju-87 interior pics. I have a lot , and I do mean a lot of Stuka books and only found one that had any color shots It's from Mushroom Model's yellow series No. 6125. I'll try to get some pics of the pics (huh?) and post them tomorrow after work. From what I know, it's pretty standard Luftwaffe stuff; mostly some grey, black etc.

FYI medical update: still healing, long road ahead on that. Doc said I really won't have full use for several months but I am making progress. At least it doesn't prevent model building!

Wow Mike, you got tore up worse than I first thought.  I hope you have good insurance to help you with your medical expenses.  I am really glad that you made it through without getting killed!  That must have really hurt!

Ken

Thanks Ken, I'm old enough now they just make me sad!

This was off Squadron, about 40% or so off and it's a beautiful kit! I'm not Trumpeter's biggest fan but they brought their A game to the table with the T-62.

jimbot58

Still getting little done despite being off this week. I spent the last several days dealing with estate problems and I am just drained by the whole situation. I did do a bit of work on the Panzer, misting on some flat white to lighten it up and give it a bit of a faded look.

I also lighted up the image so it's not so dark. You can also see I been painting up some of the details-axe, crank, tools, etc. There are also some that get attached that I'm working on. Kind of accidental that some of my exterior wash bled through to the inside of the commanders cupola but it actually looks ok.

Hang in there Jim!  We are here for you man.

That tank looks awesome dude!      Once again I can't believe you are working with 1/72 scale.  I just don't know how you do it!

Ken

Hey all, some good posts by y'all getting updated on the goings-on, if that's a word? Jim: I'm very impressed with the realistic finish on the Panzer I'm planning on using those same techniques for my next armor build. Also I've included those Ju-87 pics I mentioned for comparison. As far as my ankle wound goes Ken I do have decent health insurance and my work is very good at accommodating my loss of mobility. It's not like I'm wheelchair bound just a limp which will only get better with time. The burns I sustained were severe and deep almost to the bone but thankfully only 6X8 cm. overall. The depth is really what's causing the long heal time and need for therapy. (at least the gal doing it is cute) I thought of posting a pic but I don't even like seeing it! 

Yeah Mikey, maybe it's best we don't see a picture of your wound, but thanks for the Stuka pics. Looks like the color scheme they used should be dark gray with some more dark gray with some parts being dark grey again. Looks like I do need to add some faded olive drab for the seat, so I did get some info there. I'm not going to go too crazy here as how much am I really going to be able so see once the glazing is in place.

Mike I'd rather see a photo of your cute therapist than your wound! Those are great photos, you could go crazy detailing using them or just use them for colour references.

Last time I had a cute therapist is years ago, when I had an injury to my right hand. Three times a week I had this cute half-Japanese do massages, ultrasound, and heat treatments to my hand. Unfortunately, she could have killed me: surgery revealed a damaged blood vessel that filled with a blood clot that had to removed and the vein repaired. If she had caused part of that clot to break loose and.....

Not her fault, Doctors had not figured what was going on with the swelling and pain I had. They went in looking for a possible cyst on the nerve. I could have lost the sensation in one of my fingers, so I guess I was lucky there.

The therapist I had for my recent injuries was about my age-with grandkids.....

**SIGH**

The Stuka photos are just a color reference for me. I can barely do the detailing in the scale I build now with my aging vision.

Jim: Ack! All I can say is once again doctors don't know everything- they're just human and trying the best they can. Good thing they were able to catch it in the end.