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FineScale Modeler WWI Aeroplane Group Build 2013

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:52 PM

Thanks, guys.  Now I feel like it's OK to drink from my mug!

Jack, it just made the model seem more personal to put it in US markings, somehow, and I like that early Marine Corps insignia, it has some style.  Nothing against the Brit's though.

It hardly seems possible that the start of the Great War will be a century ago next year, where has the time gone?

John

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:05 PM

Just for fun:

John

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Posted by Ssasho0 on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:45 AM

looking damn nice! Congratulations for finishing the build

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:27 AM

Yes, she looks fantastic John, really sharp looking bird!

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, December 27, 2013 11:23 AM

I just downloaded my Feb. e-mag issue of FSM.  Nice spread in there for the GB.  Well done all!!!!!!!!!!  And thanks to Tim and Arron or getting it in the mag.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, December 27, 2013 1:48 PM

Gentlemen!

As Marc has pointed out, the FineScale Modeler World War I Group Build gallery is in the February 2014 issue. We couldn't get everyone in, but those who aren't in the magazine proper are honored in the accompanying online gallery.

Again, I want to thank all of you for hanging out with Aaron and me on this group build. We learned more from you guys than you can possibly know and had a great time along the way. On top of it all, we ended up with a couple of SWEET fighters!

We're gonna starting kickin' it into high gear on the FSM Heroes & Villains Group Build now. For those of you joining us over there, make sure to get moving too. March is coming up faster than we realize. And those of you who aren't building along with us, don't be shy. Come on over and at least give Aaron and me some grief (useful comments would be appreciated too).

Jeaton: I still haven't gotten my firing pins back ...

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:54 AM

Hi guys,

This will probably be one of the last posts into this thread, but I thought the venue appropriate.

We are just finishing up editing the FSM July 2014 issue, in which a two-page how-to will appear written by our very own Wing_nut, generated by the work he did on his Albatros D.Va.

Congratulations, Marc!

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:24 PM

Right on, congrats Marc!

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:31 PM

Very cool, Marc - congrats!  Look forward to seeing it

Chuck Davis

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Posted by Ssasho0 on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:40 PM

Congrats Marc, I will also read it with great pleasure!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:47 PM

Sasho, it's great to see you! Where have you been hiding?

We're running an armor group build coming up in August. We'd love to have you along. Here's a link to it. 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:49 PM

WooHoo! Big congrads Marc! Maybe I can learn enough to finally get the last rigging on my Nieuport done...Sad

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Posted by Ssasho0 on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 2:17 PM

Hi Tim,

I was quitely working on this :) Thanks for the invite, I will probably join the armor build, but it is too early to tell - just starting a Gotha GVa, Fokker EIV and plan on Lamborghini AVentador :)

Busy schedule

Best regards,

Sasho

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:15 PM

Nice one marc, will be looking forward to that.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:55 PM

Tim Kidwell

Gentlemen!

As Marc has pointed out, the FineScale Modeler World War I Group Build gallery is in the February 2014 issue. We couldn't get everyone in, but those who aren't in the magazine proper are honored in the accompanying online gallery.

CryingCrying

most folks did...

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:12 PM

This is awesome!  ....and it couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.  This guy is a master -- armor, modern aircraft, WWII, bipes, this guy builds 'em all, and they're all showstoppers.  Without doubt, the most skilled modeler it's been my pleasure to know.  Nicely done my friend.  Yes

Mike

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, April 25, 2014 8:36 AM

Ssasho0

Hi Tim,

I was quitely working on this :) Thanks for the invite, I will probably join the armor build, but it is too early to tell - just starting a Gotha GVa, Fokker EIV and plan on Lamborghini AVentador :)

Busy schedule

Best regards,

Sasho

Another beautiful bipe! Great work on the woodgrain. 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, April 25, 2014 7:40 PM

GMorrison

Tim Kidwell

Gentlemen!

As Marc has pointed out, the FineScale Modeler World War I Group Build gallery is in the February 2014 issue. We couldn't get everyone in, but those who aren't in the magazine proper are honored in the accompanying online gallery.

CryingCrying

most folks did...

They must have figured out we live in Northern California, Bill!

John

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:17 PM

Hey guys.  First let me apologize for taking so long to see this post and all nice things you guys have said. I really can't thank you all enough for the comments and kind thoughts.

Build time is... well... I am not even sure what build time means any more.  I would have acknowledged you guys sooner but forum time is but a fraction of build time these days.

Marc  

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, May 5, 2022 11:28 AM

Yeah, this is a long dead thread, but I want to reach out to the guys who participated (or really, anyone who wants to jump in) to talk about replicating machine-turned aluminum for WWI aircraft. I have a couple of ideas, but what techniques have you all used to get the job done? 

Yes, this post is totally selfish and self-serving, because I have an E.IV on the workbench and you know what that means. So help an old companion and FSM editor out.

Thanks! 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, May 5, 2022 12:15 PM

Wish I could help, Tim, but it's not something I've done yet.  I suspect it would depend on the scale.  Revell supplied a decal for the Spirit of St Louis.  On the full scale work it was done to hide rough metal work and was done by working the surface with a sort of flat bottom milling tool, hence engine turned.  I think there were two different patterns. One fairly regular and repeating, the other more random.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, May 5, 2022 12:45 PM

jeaton01

Wish I could help, Tim, but it's not something I've done yet.  I suspect it would depend on the scale.  Revell supplied a decal for the Spirit of St Louis.  On the full scale work it was done to hide rough metal work and was done by working the surface with a sort of flat bottom milling tool, hence engine turned.  I think there were two different patterns. One fairly regular and repeating, the other more random.

Thanks so much for chiming in, John! The pattern on the E.IV cowl is random. I think I might be able to replicate the look with an airbrush, but I'm not sure if it's the best route. 

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Posted by gregbale on Thursday, May 5, 2022 1:14 PM

Tim, during the course of the contest build, one of the participants did an amazing rendition of the 'sworl' pattern with a home-made decal pattern over an aluminum undercoat. (I thought it was Jack/Jgeratic's Albatros, but looking at the 'completed' photos on page 1 of the contest thread, it may have been Ruddrat's Fokker, which has an excellent version as well.)

When I PM'd them at the time, they were kind enough to share the graphic with me...but, alas, both that and the related correspondence is on a laptop currently in storage. Profuse apologies to whichever kind and generous soul it was...but it was quite a while ago, and having passed the big 65, the memory seems more crayon-sharp than pencil-sharp these days.

The good news is, that laptop is pretty easily accessible, it'll just take me a day or two to get to it. I'll check back with an update.

Cheers...and it's still good to have you back!

Greg

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Posted by Watchmann on Thursday, May 5, 2022 4:12 PM

I had read something years ago where you cover the model in one of the foil products, then spin a technical pencil eracer against the foil to burnish the circular pattern.  Use one of the abrasive types of erasers, not the soft white erasers.  I've not tried it nor do I remember if there were any pictures when I read about the processors.

Would love to see what you come up with!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, May 9, 2022 12:07 PM

gregbale

Tim, during the course of the contest build, one of the participants did an amazing rendition of the 'sworl' pattern with a home-made decal pattern over an aluminum undercoat ... The good news is, that laptop is pretty easily accessible, it'll just take me a day or two to get to it. I'll check back with an update.

Cheers...and it's still good to have you back!

 

 

Thanks, Greg! I appreciate it. And it's still good to be back! 

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, May 9, 2022 12:10 PM

Watchmann

I had read something years ago where you cover the model in one of the foil products, then spin a technical pencil eracer against the foil to burnish the circular pattern.  Use one of the abrasive types of erasers, not the soft white erasers.  I've not tried it nor do I remember if there were any pictures when I read about the processors.

Would love to see what you come up with!

Sounds interesting. I'll let you know what I go with and how it turns out.

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 10:03 AM

Well...what I said earlier about my memory was entirely correct; I'd forgotten an intervening hard drive failure since that contest...so no joy on the decal pattern I mentioned. Sorry.

In its place I'll offer a couple of (regretably source-unidentified) photos from my Fokker EIII files, labled with the caption "cowling swirl hand-painted w silver-black mix over humbrol 11 silver." It's a pretty decent representation of the effect, and it's probably what I'd go with now...although I suspect I might use oils rather than enamels to paint the swirls, just from an ease-of-use standpoint.

Hope it's some help. Good luck with your project!

Greg

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, May 19, 2022 10:17 AM

gregbale

In its place I'll offer a couple of (regretably source-unidentified) photos from my Fokker EIII files, labled with the caption "cowling swirl hand-painted w silver-black mix over humbrol 11 silver." It's a pretty decent representation of the effect, and it's probably what I'd go with now...although I suspect I might use oils rather than enamels to paint the swirls, just from an ease-of-use standpoint.

Hope it's some help. Good luck with your project! 

Greg,

Thanks for taking the time to dig up those photos! I appreciate the effort and the help. I'm going to do a couple of tests and post them in a different thread to show everyone what I'm thinking.

TK

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