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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:04 AM

Thanxs guys. Typical  withy any "PITA" build like the little Oeffag. I told myself NEVER AGAIN!.

But then when it is sitting on the shelff I start thinking....well ,maybe just one more LOL!

I do like the yello on the draken, very nice!

As for the Yak, I have reached a stage in my modling where my main aim is to just have fun and if I learn something from the build ...grate.  I have stoped building to please the "experts" even if the cammo might not be "correct" or the colors are slightly off.......who cares!  It is my model and I will build it the way I please  , just having fun should be the big idea!

Theuns

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:46 AM

I 'm at the same stage Theuns, agree 100%.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:12 AM

Theuns

Thanxs guys. Typical  withy any "PITA" build like the little Oeffag. I told myself NEVER AGAIN!.

But then when it is sitting on the shelff I start thinking....well ,maybe just one more LOL!

I do like the yello on the draken, very nice!

As for the Yak, I have reached a stage in my modling where my main aim is to just have fun and if I learn something from the build ...grate.  I have stoped building to please the "experts" even if the cammo might not be "correct" or the colors are slightly off.......who cares!  It is my model and I will build it the way I please  , just having fun should be the big idea!

Theuns

You are so correct!  Great way of putting it.  I greatly appreciate all the tips, tricks, and advice I get here on the forums from everyone, and they are definitely helping in the improvement of the builds, but in the end, I just enjoy the process.  To me it is relaxing and helps in shedding the everyday stuff you drag around.  So let's continue having fun! Smile

Eagle90

 

 

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:25 AM

I have learned a long time ago, there will always be someone who is better at something than I am. The best I can do is not to try and "beat" them, it takes to much time and energy. If they are willing to teach me I am willing to learn all tips and trick I can.

The best place to learn new stuff is on forums like this and at the local IPMS clubs. For me every new project is a learning experience. Weather it is to learn rigging (I still need loads of practice!) or a new camo tecnique. I am very far from being a rivet counter. For me that spoils the whole experience.

I am lucky enough to work and full size planes (civil light and ex- military props/ jets) for a living, so I have a fair idea what they should look like.

Even the best modlers struggle to get it looking "exactly" like the real ones, but that is OK, it is all just a game at the end of the day.

If it looks "almost" like the one I modeld I am happy and walk away.

Theuns

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:51 AM

Theuns

I have learned a long time ago, there will always be someone who is better at something than I am. The best I can do is not to try and "beat" them, it takes to much time and energy. If they are willing to teach me I am willing to learn all tips and trick I can.

The best place to learn new stuff is on forums like this and at the local IPMS clubs. For me every new project is a learning experience. Weather it is to learn rigging (I still need loads of practice!) or a new camo tecnique. I am very far from being a rivet counter. For me that spoils the whole experience.

I am lucky enough to work and full size planes (civil light and ex- military props/ jets) for a living, so I have a fair idea what they should look like.

Even the best modlers struggle to get it looking "exactly" like the real ones, but that is OK, it is all just a game at the end of the day.

If it looks "almost" like the one I modeld I am happy and walk away.

Theuns

Again, absolutely!  That is why I think they should have model SHOWS, not competitions.  I was able to go to my first model show this year!  I was jazzed about it.  Over all had a tremendous experience and met some really cool people.  But there were those few that were just TOO ate up about the "competition".  There was only one youth entry.  A young man about 12-13.  I listened to some jerk drag him through the mud about the inaccuracies of his USS New Jersey!  I mean he was not giving him advice, he was TELLING him everything he did wrong in a very holier then thou way.  I felt like kicking the #%$@ out the guy!  I went up and talked to the young man afterwards.  He told me the whole history of the ship!  He had done so much research on the ship just to get ragged by this guy.  All this to say, I don't do competitions and agree with you.  Build for yourself and what your happy with.  Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I think it's good for the new guys and gals to hear.  

Eagle90

 

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:18 AM

I very rarey use primer on my models, but I thought I will give Tamiya grey surface primer a go.

It does show where I need to re-scribe and toutchup.  I think a sanding with 2000 prior to paint will give a nice smooth surface.

In the un-thinned form I brushed the primer directly over the bang seats of a 1/48 Hawk 120 and it gave a very nice filling effect.

The Canberra has also been primed, but there is loads of re-scribing to do on it.

Theuns

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:17 PM

Theuns, I agree on everything you said!

Eagle: That guy was an exceptionally rare kind of extreme ***holes... That poor young man... It was really nice of you to talk to him afterwards...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:21 PM

A "funny" thing I noticed with all those idiots just telling other people what they did wrong, without giving any advice at all: They never show their work to anyone.They keep bitching around about little "flaws" 99% of the people looking at the model wouldn't even notice after staring at it for a whole day, but they are not able to show you a model where everything is completely "right", if they are able to show you any model at all... I think such people are not worth listening to and don't deserve any attention at all...

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:43 PM

SchattenSpartan

Theuns, I agree on everything you said!

Eagle: That guy was an exceptionally rare kind of extreme ***holes... That poor young man... It was really nice of you to talk to him afterwards...

Yeah, the kid was really down about it, but I started asking him questions on how he did something, how long it took him, what colors he used,, etc. he got all excited and was just a joy to listen to.  Like I said, he did his research on the ship itself and knew a lot of its history!  You don't find too many 12-13 year olds that do that.  I asked if I could take pics of it and he that that was the bomb.  The jerk was pretty much ignored the whole time he was there, and I noticed other contestants going up and talking to him too.  Giving him kudos and GOOD advice, but encouraging him and letting him know he did a great job.  

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:45 PM

SchattenSpartan

A "funny" thing I noticed with all those idiots just telling other people what they did wrong, without giving any advice at all: They never show their work to anyone.They keep bitching around about little "flaws" 99% of the people looking at the model wouldn't even notice after staring at it for a whole day, but they are not able to show you a model where everything is completely "right", if they are able to show you any model at all... I think such people are not worth listening to and don't deserve any attention at all...

I totally agree.......sometimes, you just can't fix stupid.  

 

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Posted by waynec on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:08 PM

As for the Yak, I have reached a stage in my modling where my main aim is to just have fun and if I learn something from the build ...grate. I have stoped building to please the "experts" even if the cammo might not be "correct" or the colors are slightly off.......who cares! It is my model and I will build it the way I please , just having fun should be the big idea!

i am at that stage too. my chinese treasure ship will not stand up to an anal exam but, in a case from a couple feet away it will look fine. i have started moving finished models to my study and can look at them and see improvement, even when trying something new. i don't obssess on 100% correct colors since i will weather them and different lighting will change it too. that's not to say i wouldn't build a "Pink Panther" (da dum)

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:43 PM

Lovely work on the Draken Tony.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:35 PM

Good discussion.  If new people are to be attracted and brought into the hobby--and kept in the hobby--they need more encouragement than criticism.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:53 PM

checkmateking02

Good discussion.  If new people are to be attracted and brought into the hobby--and kept in the hobby--they need more encouragement than criticism.

And this is a good place Checkmate.  You guys rock!  Thanks for all the tips, tricks, and advice I have gotten from all of you! Bow Down

Eagle90

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:48 PM

We all have something to learn, I think, Eagle!!  And there is always that kit, out there, somewhere, that will give us the willies, make mockery of our best efforts--and keep us humble. 

Warm fuzzies and group hugs all around!!  This is a great place; none better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:08 PM

Now, back to the plastic, the Airfix Dauntless.

I usually glue the horizontal stabilizers on planes first, then set the proper angle with a protractor.  I find that this lets me use enough glue to keep them from falling off during the gluing, sanding, painting phases--when, in the past, I have knocked them off.

While the stabilizers were setting up, I worked on the cockpits.  Pretty simple.  I painted them with one of the Floquil model railroad silvers, very much thinned with lacquer thinner.  It usually goes on very smooth then.

That rough, dotlike stuff is sanding dust.  I discovered after assembly that the cockpit wouldn't fit between the fuselage halves, because of the width of the pilot's back bulkhead, so I had to sand it down.  It made a mess, which I did clean up, after taking the picture.  I didn't smooth the edge down, because it will all be below the level of the fuselage and won't be visible--especially with the canopy closed.

Again, below, prior to dusting off the sanding residue.  Some things don't show up, till you take a photo!

I made some seat belts out of masking tape painted a light tannish/khaki.  Dabbed the ends with a gold gel pen and installed them.  A stray cat hair under the assembly; they like to sit on the work area.  Pests.

I couldn't find any evidence that the rear gunner's seat had a belt, so I didn't install one.  But I don't know how the gunner would have stayed in the plane without it, during maneuverings?

One thing to note about the floor in the gunner's area--it's too short to fit around the locating pegs on the fuselage wall, so you have to sand one of the tabs away, on the bottom of the floor.  I eliminated the one on the near end of the floor in this photo, so the fore appendage "hooks" around the pin, and the aft part of the floor just rests on the pin.  Superglue holds it all in place anyway.

Thanks for looking.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:44 PM

checkmateking02

We all have something to learn, I think, Eagle!!  And there is always that kit, out there, somewhere, that will give us the willies, make mockery of our best efforts--and keep us humble. 

Warm fuzzies and group hugs all around!!  This is a great place; none better.

 

 

Yes Well said!

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:48 PM

Awesome work on the seat belts Checkmate.  I have GOT to try that!  Cat hair!?  No, control cable!  Yeah, control cable!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:10 PM

Should have thought of that, and gotten a longer haired cat.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:31 AM

This 262 is going so fast , I might have to add a few more 1/72 brail scale kits to the stach.

The basic splinter camo is on, although the colors are not spot on I am happy with the result.

Theuns

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Posted by Eagle90 on Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:34 AM

Looking good Theuns!  I like that camo pattern.  

Eagle90

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:10 AM

Nice work on the cockpit, Checkmate!

Theuns: Your paint job looks good!

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:43 AM

Yes, Theuns.  Those colors look very nice together, and your application of the paint looks flawless.  

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:48 AM

Thanx , I sanded the primer with 2000 wet paper to get it smooth and then dhot on 3 thin light coats of color instead of a heavy coat.

Theuns

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:29 PM

Thanks, Clemens!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, July 12, 2013 9:10 AM

Danr! my AB slipped in 2 spots.....can you tell LOL!

Not to happy with my fuze camo , but I hope the black will make it "pop" a bit.

Theuns

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, July 12, 2013 12:48 PM

Your 262 keeps looking better and better, Theuns!

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, July 12, 2013 5:31 PM

The TBD cockpit looks good CMK.

Theuns -  The camo on the 262 looks good. It will look even better when it's all finished.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:50 AM

Theuns, that's looking good to me. Stick with it, I bet once its decaled and weathered you will be happy with it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Theuns on Monday, July 15, 2013 2:23 AM

So while I am finishing off the 262 I was given a 1/72 PBY Cat by a mate with the chalange of "have it ready in 2 weeks for IPMS meeting"......naturally I accepted!

Hope there is space in this thread for it.  (Academy PBY 5)

Will post pix later today.

Theuns

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