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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:47 AM

Just awesome work everyone, and lots of good  information along the way as well. Yes

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About the WEM paints, I don't think White Ensign will ship overseas, see here:

https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/page/Shipping+and+Delivery/4/#.VHShr8nCZV8

Post 911, most western hobby sites won't ship enamel and aerosol  products by air, which is probably the case here. 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:46 AM

That is a sharp-looking aircraft, Joe.  Nice work masking it all.  I like the way the colors came out, and the demarcation line is superb!

Are you using Testors Navy blue-gray?  I've noticed a very pronounced difference in the WEM and Testors interpretation of the color.  WEM is darker and even appears to have a greenish cast to it.

Got myself some Tamiya tape a few weeks ago.  Haven't used it yet, but am looking forward to trying it out.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:40 AM

Thanks for the intel, Doug.  I'm still using old-school enamels for basic painting, but I like acrylics for pin-washes and stuff like that.

It was very creative to mix your own.  Good idea!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:38 AM

Joe:  I use lacquer thinner from the local hardware store or Walmart and it seems to work OK for airbrushing.  For a kind of thinned dry-brush mix, I've used mineral spirits.  

I didn't know about the source Eric mentions in Sacramento.  Will have to check that out, since the Royal Mail won't handle overseas shipments of paint, and WEM is manufactured in the UK.

The only source I currently know about for WEM's Colourcoats is MidTenn Hobbies.

http://www.midtennhobbies.com/

They are kind of depleted now, but get major shipments in from time to time.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Nomad53 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:14 AM

Nice recovery Joe. Your aircraft is going to be a good looking one. Looking forward to seeing more on this one.

Doug

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:21 AM

Time for update from my end of the bench. It's good to have some progress and some pics to share with you all as it's been a while.

Initial masking with Tamiya tape for general coverage and silly putty for edges:

Then the application of the MM intermed. blue:

Removal of the silly putty mask revealed that my edges were uneven and inconsistent. This is a product of being in a hurry and not closely inspecting my mask prior to airbrushing.

No big thing. I reapplied some larger silly putty sausages and touched it up:

Much better. With time off during the holidays and a winter schedule at work I should be able to make some ground. Thanks for looking Gents.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Enjoy your time with friends and family.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Nomad53 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:40 AM

Thanks Joe. I am trying.

Doug

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Posted by Nomad53 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:39 AM

CMK,

I am using cheap acrylic paints from Hobby Lobby. I think the most that I have paid for them is about $1.50 per bottle. Some were from Wal-Mart at .50 cents. As far as the colors I used I just went with light gray, gray and mixed my own deck blue using the hex code for the color as a guide on what percentages of red, green and blue to mix. I kinda eyeballed it.

Thanks for the comments on my build.

Bish,

Looking great there. Good luck with the camo.

Nomad53


 

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Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:18 AM

Hats off to enamel fans. It appears that Snyder and Short - a little mom/pop place in Sacramento - has a full variety of WEM. They run the fantastic USN Camouflage site. The WEM tins are $3.89. In case you have to buy from the source White Ensign doesn't charge VAT for foreigners and ship very quickly. But customs can be dodgy and I'd use Snyder and Short. (The order button is on the left side of the page.)

http://www.shipcamouflage.com/colourcoats.htm

I have WEM Navy Blue, Deck Blue and Haze Gray: really for color chips to make acrylic brews that match them. For water based acrylic fans like yours truly, Vallejo is the way to go. Some Brit fanatic compiled a really spiffy conversion chart for all WWII (and other eras) colors of major navies and their equivalent in Vallejo Model Color paints.

www.ipmsswamp.com/files/VallejoWWIINavalColorEquivalents.pdf

If you have trouble with that link, google "Vallejo WWII Naval Color Equivalents" and that will take you directly to a free PDF. I have found the color choices very accurate.

Eric

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, November 24, 2014 11:33 PM

Bish: Top notch work so far. The 251 is looking sweet. Wow, that is indeed one unique camo scheme. I am very intrigued by watching you pull it off. By the way, I have no doubt that you will turn it out masterfully.

Doug: BRAVO!!! That is one spectacular masking and paint job. I am duly impressed. You should really be proud of yourself.

CMK: I'm curious as to what you use to thin WEM paints? I have a few tins of WEM Russian WWII aircraft colors I have yet to use and I've been wondering which thinner works best with their line of paints.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54 PM

Well done, Doug.  You're sailing along really well.  Very commendable!

Can I ask what brand of paint you're using?  Naval colors aren't too easy to come by.  Testors has some, I know, and of course WEM, but WEM is not easy to obtain on this side of the ocean.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, November 24, 2014 4:50 PM

It's looking good, Bish, but that is one complicated scheme.  Is there any way to do it, except to free-hand it with an airbrush?  It will be very interesting--and entertaining--to see your progress.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 24, 2014 3:19 PM

Looking very nice there Doug.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Nomad53 on Monday, November 24, 2014 2:54 PM

Looking good Raven. Very well built.

Okay all here are some more photos of the Missouri. Nothing is glued in place and there is a long way to go before she is done.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 24, 2014 2:34 PM

That time again. Firstly, an apology. I did take many progress pics this week. There was not much to add to the outside, but I should have taken pics of the issues I was having fitting the top and bottom together, but I just got so frustrated I forgot. basically, the problem was that when the back was secured, the front of the top had to be forced down. I did think the drivers IP was the problem, possible cause by the PE around it, but even after thinning the top of the hull above it, it still did not fit. So in the end I had to force it. It was not to big a gap, but enough. Next time I plan of fitting the IP before the PE and painting and seeing how that goes.

This poor fit did throw a few things out, but nothing a bit of filling and sanding could not fix. So, here she is with construction completed and al ready for painting.

Then at the weekend it got a coat of primer and tonight the DY.  

Now, my next problem is the camo, its a little different, or at least one I have not come across before. This is the best of 2 pics of the real vehicle

And this is the AFV image from the side of the box.

I don't know what others think, but it doesn't seem as though there is a pattern. I do get the impression that the green was painted first followed by the brown. On the colour image it has mostly brown at the bottom and more green higher up, but on the B&W I am not so sure.

All opinions welcome. Due to the cold damp nights here and my painting area being in the shed, I don't plan on painting the rest until the weekend, so plenty of time to mask and get on with the base

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Sunday, November 23, 2014 4:59 PM

Raven,

Couple of things:

The model looks very good as it stands. If you want to recreate a big metal thing with a small plastic thing, you have to cut corners somewhere. You also have to decide what you're trying to recreate (or evoke maybe).

You've got history on your side no matter how deeply you weather a tank. Tanks were produced in the tens of thousands - especially Rooskie tanks - (about 40,000 T-34s?) and loss rates were sky high. So if you want to consider your model as representing a vehicle new to the front, you've got it made and there were dozens each day during the war exactly in that category.

Might add that the most famous tank meister of ten to fifteen years back was Tony Greenland. He only did German AFVs I think. His "look" defined a good model AFV for years - very crisp, tons of drybrushing and even some color contrasts. He did use chalk as a pigment for the very light weathering he did below the hull. He was very restrained using it, saying he was building tanks, not the mud they fought in. Perfectly valid idea. A reaction to the Greenland style came from the "Spanish School" builders who argued the case for heavy weathering. Mig Jimenez and Adam Wilder were pioneers and remain top modelers. Both were affiliated with Vallejo - a Spanish company - and found local gurus there who were keen on bringing the techniques long familiar with artists to the model world and introduced pigments on steroids.

Vallejo remains one of the great art painting companies today. No accident the pigment craze started there. Every paint has a pigment and because many painters still like to make their own paints, artist grade dry pigments are commonly used. You want the finest pigments on the planet? Go to Blick and get dry pigments from the fine American oil paint company Gamblin - about $6 for 4 oz) or the ritzy French Sennelier for $10 for the same. That's a lifetime supply. MIG is the biggest seller with a blizzard of colors - very good - but pricey. And frankly you don't need more than maybe four colors to take you the distance. MicroMark sells Doc O' Brien's "weathering powders" for railroaders - $20 for 12 small bottles which will last a long time. They have an adhesive which allows them to stick on without ISP or mineral spirits. Tamiya makes a series of weathering sets that use the same idea. Each work nicely.

It was the Spanish School that emphasized lots of pigments, chipping, filters and pinwashes. Here they're going for the used look of a combat vehicle. Lately they've drifted into complicated color theories (modulation) and an even greater use of oil paints. These guys have founded companies to push their approach. MIG was the first (Jimenez was involved very early but no more). Now AMMO (which used to be AK Interactive) which is run by Mig Jimenez. Whether the blizzard of materials they push are really needed is something I doubt. (I do know that Abteilung oils are the most expensive oil paints per volume on the planet and I seriously doubt they'd do any better than a "student grade" oil paint from any art shop.)

It's the Spanish School that's accused of over weathering. Often I think that's true.  I'm not at all convinced that the complex modulation painting is needed. (I believe both Stik and Bish have expressed similar sentiments.) On the other hand, there were certainly AFVs that fought under very harsh conditions and were lucky enough to stay alive long enough to get properly messed up. And it's fun to do that kind of weathering - it's almost a separate hobby.

In my view a combat vehicle would above all be dirty. I don't care how long they were in the field - tanks throw up lots of dust, dirt mud etc - and will do even more if there are other tanks in front of them. Whether you need buckets of chips and rust is a very different question. So the technique I'd center on would be pigments to use on the wheels/tracks and some kind of dust for the hull.

Resources: Check YouTube. There are megatons of weathering videos there. Search "Mig Jimenez" and you'll get excerpts from many of the DVDs he made covering all kinds of tank weathering. ("AFV Arcylic Weathering Techniques" will bring up a complete DVD and the one I think is the best of the lot - but I like acrylics a lot.) I give the strongest thumbs up to Mike Rinaldi's "Tank Art" volumes (a steal at $25 considering the size and beautiful photos) available at Rinaldstudiopress.com . (Rinaldi has aircraft volumes coming: that I want to see.) You may find Rinaldi complete overkill but the results he gets are impressive whether realistic or not. A review of Tank Art I is on YouTube - it's in German but the guy goes slowly through the book which is in English - quick way to get the idea.

You don't have to go down the whole road. I've learned a lot from Jimenez and company and it has influenced all of my modeling - ships, tanks, planes. But the subject is a bottomless pit.

Happy Thanksgiving

Eric    

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 4:08 PM

That is a very sharp T-34, Raven.  Well-done.  If it's a little shiny, maybe it's the melting snow.  The weathering looks fine; subtle, refined--not overstated.  

Yes, Bish--will "1945" be coming up?  I'm waiting in the wings with USS Shangri-la.

And. . .that's one scary recruiting poster.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, November 23, 2014 3:23 PM

Steve, Your T-34 looks great. I concur with Bish in that you don't want to go far and find that you've over done it. What you have done looks just fine. Congrats on completing your build. Thank You for sharing your T-34 with us.

Hey Bish, Are you planning on hosting a 1945 GB?

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:55 PM

SchattenSpartan

Bish: That 251 interior looks great! You're doing some very nice work on the weathering!

Thanks buddy. The rest of the construction is now done and the primer on. Going to get a coat of DY tomorrow and then will post an update. I then have the challenge of the camo scheme for this one.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:53 PM

Steve, I think you have made a wise move. Its far to easy to over do it and its not all that easy to back track. It is a learning process and its best to take it one build at a time. The 34 looks great will be nice to see it on a base and on the front page.

Of course, she doesn't want to get to Berlin to soon, at least not until next year Wink

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Posted by Raven728 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:50 PM

I wanted to post a pic of the T-34, as I'm considering it 'done' at this point. I put that in quotes for two reasons: one, I'm still planning to do a base (my first) for this model; and two, in terms of weathering I want to quit while I'm ahead. It's not quite as well-weathered as I want it to be, but I can't seem to do any more at this point with powders & washes and I'm terrified of mucking it up. Wink In hindsight, I would have done things a bit differently, but I'm still learning.

As you can see, it still has a bit of a shine, even after four rather heavy coats of Testors Acryl flat. Not as obvious when not in direct light, however. Soon I hope, I'll post pics of the base-building process, and we'll get this girl on the road west to Berlin.

- Steve

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01 PM

Thanks, Doug and Clemens.  I always appreciate your comments.

Doug:  I hadn't done any ships, either, till maybe two or three years ago.  It was all new to me.  The website Eric mentioned is a very good source.  The gallery is very helpful for research, even if the scale is not what you're working in.

I think your Missouri is coming along very well, and I'm almost looking forward to doing one in 1/700.

But there is that recovery time from doing Measure 32 camouflage to consider. . .maybe a nice safe Measure 21 for the next one.  If a 1945 GB gets going, I'm thinking USS Shangri-la.

Clear sailing with your build, my friend!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:56 AM

Bish: That 251 interior looks great! You're doing some very nice work on the weathering!

Check: She's lokking fantastic. Your masking work is most impressive as always!

Doug: Great masking work on your side as well!

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Posted by Nomad53 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 5:53 AM

Eric,

My apologies the scale is 1/535. It was late when I replied to your last post and was not thinking. I have the web site bookmarked and will go and look at the railings again and see if I can get them. I was thinking about getting another Revell Missouri and doing it in the standard paint as she was at Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered.

One of the things I do not like about most Revell models is that sometimes they lack the fine details. I am going to have to just save up and get one of the better kits when I can.

I am mostly a armor person bu when I came here to this forum I guess I kinda broadened out a bit. Now I do aircraft and ships.

I can not say enough about the help I have got here in this GB. You all have been the force that has kept me going in this build of the USS Missouri. I almost gave up on her.

CMK,

Te stacks are great. Good job my friend. You and Eric have done so much to keep me motivated in this build. I am learning so many things and have found out that just trying the tips that you have given me and other things that I have never done is not as scary as I thought.

I have also learned that most mistakes can be fixed and all the little touch up and taking my time with a build is not so bad. I had to break myself of just going at it and trying to get the kit done to fast. I am disabled and I have a lot of time on my hands just sitting her at home so to keep my hands working right, I just sit and build.

My youngest son and I are putting up our Christmas light display and getting all the wiring run to the light controllers so that has taken up a lot of time but it is a welcome break from just sitting in my chair at the work desk all day and rushing to get the kit done.

I will have more photos of what I have done later today.

Doug

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Posted by EBergerud on Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:15 PM

Model Warship sometimes does work on their site at night.

But It's in good working order - I've been on it almost every day. The main site is

www.modelwarships.com/index1.html (the gallery is reached from there)

The forum is

www.shipmodels.info/.../index.php .

The tips and tricks section is wide open for anyone, but you have to register to post questions. Free.

A great site.

Eric

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:54 PM

Nomad:

I thought you were building the Revell Missouri which is 1:535 scale which is a lot smaller than a 1/350. Railing in 1/600 scale would work with a 1:535 - way better than nothing even if a bit too small. For a 1/350 Tom's Modelworks sells generic railings. (So does White Ensign, but those are very delicate and consequently very pricey: great if you're used to PE, tough if you're not.)  Freetime sells generic 1/350 railings from Eduard - they're cheap and sacrifice detail for toughness - a good trade in my book. They also sell Alliance generics - check with Freetime, they have them listed at $89.50 when I think the price is $8.50 like they charge for Japanese and German railings. (Not that it matters that much which country they're made for: any railing is far better than no railing. Not many people can tell the difference.)

You can do without of course. My first ship models had neither railing or rigging. Below are a pair: USS Washington and it's victim at Guadalcanal IJN Kirishima. They're not that badly made - but they'd look far better with basic railing and basic rigging.

i971.photobucket.com/.../bothsd1.jpg

The more ships you do, the more time you can put into these embellishments (many ship modelers spend far more on PE than for the model, and spend more time attaching PE and rigging than building the base model) if you chose. And any model ship is better than no model ship.

Eric

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:21 PM

Stacks painted up for the starboard side of BB-55.  

This is taking awhile, since I have to wait a day between coats of paint for the stuff to set up. 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Axemanwb on Saturday, November 22, 2014 12:34 PM

Unfortunately the warship.com site is no longer around. It says he's building a new one and that's about it.

William 'Axeman' Hawes

In Progress: Tamiya 1/35 Panzer II

'Just' Completed: Testors P-51 1:48

 

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Posted by Nomad53 on Friday, November 21, 2014 10:30 PM

Thank you Eric. There is a Cabala's here in Rogers and it is about 4 miles from where I live. I wil take a look there and find what you are talking about.

The model web site is down for now so I could not check it out.

You gave me a lot of information that will help me in completing the Missouri.

Will the 1/600 rails and ladders work on a 1/350 scale?

Thanks again for the great information.

Doug

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Posted by EBergerud on Friday, November 21, 2014 6:45 PM

Nomad,

If you want some inspiration on rigging, railing, weathering and almost anything else check the forum at Modelwarship.com - this is where the ship meisters hang out. It's a little intimidating because the normal human will not reach the level of the better modelers there, but it's a gold mine for information. (Actually it's fantastic for information but not so hot for feedback on completed work.) Check the "tips and tricks" section.

As for rigging, sprue should work very well if you have plastic masts. Baumann's technique does work very well. I just use a postcard to stick the heated sprue stick in and pull. Baumann (who is one of the best styrene/resin ship modelers on the planet) uses Revel plastic cement to connect the sprue. That's hard to find in the US (eBay will work: comes in a blue bottle with a yellow cap) but regular Testors liquid cement is very close. My problem is that I use brass masts exclusively and have found plastic cement doesn't work very well on them. Plastic cements melt the plastic so at very tin diameters you want a really small dab on both sides of the connection. Obviously that doesn't happen with brass. Baumann does it, but he could rig a ship with a shoe lace. The alternate materials would be the thinnest monofilament fishing line you can find - 1 lb test if possible - or something like 6X fly fishing tippet material which about the same thing. Very easy to use, not much out of scale: problem is that knots are a little bulky. Advantage is that like sprue you can take a stick of burning incense (this is another Baumann technique) and hold it under the rigging - the heat will get the line to grow taught immediately. Takes a bit of practice because you can also melt it pretty easily. The other option is fly tying line which is usually a polyester or nylon. (I've never found thread in a fabric shop that is thin enough for ideal rigging, but the thinnest stuff they have would work.) Any good fly fishing place (if there's a Cabella's nearby you've got it made) will have 6/0 tying line which would be thin enough and very easy to work with. (Danville, a big company, waxes their lines so the incense trick works on them too.) If it's available 10 or 12X is even better. Line is very easy to work with and knots very nicely - secure the knot with a mini-dot of CA. If you want to see what some fanatics use track down Uni-Caenis 20 denier tying line. I find it too thin to work with, but you're eye is good enough the stuff provides a remarkable effect.



I'm sure CMK's advice would yield good results. But just to show that there is no agreement on this subject, I'll throw in my nickle. Must admit that I have been heavily influenced by armor gurus like Mig Jimenez and Mike Rinaldi.

In my humble view, ship modelers often under weather ships. This is particularly true if you're doing a USN vessel class of 1944. After the Saipan campaign the Navy operated in a way no fleet had ever done - at least not since the day of sail. Through most of the war fuel, upkeep and other logistic requirements firmly limited how long a fleet could stay at sea. In the last 18 months of WWII the USN rewrote the rules. They built artificial harbors in places like Manus where serious maitainence could be done - no more trips to Pearl unless seriously damaged. The USN had essentially an extra fleet operating about a hundred miles or so from operations made up of oilers and supply ships: dozens of them and enough for thirsty CVs and BBs to make regular pit stops. Even had some CVE's to carry spare planes. This meant our ships were in more or less constant movement for well over a year. Find a good bit of color film from the era - US cameramen were using it in large quantity - and look things over - many ships show dramatic wear. I believe Missouri entered operations in Measure 32: here she is, unfortunately it's a little hard to tell wear:

Here's Mo in measure 22 in Tokyo Bay - I think it's pretty obvious that she had earned her supper sailing around the world's largest body of salt water:

Now you can always think of the ships as just coming from overhaul or new to service and weather lightly. If you want more, there's history to back you up. Here again, the people at Ship Modeler have good ideas. One of their meisters, David Griffin, has written the best book on styrene ship modeling - course there aren't many out there. Anyway, briefly here's what I did to my last ships (Scharnhorst least weathered, Oregon most):

Scharnhorst

Hobson

Oregon



I start with a gloss clear coat (Future is fine) to use for a pin wash. Most people use either heavily diluted oils or enamels for this although I find Iwata Com.Art acrylics very good. (Think I'm alone there.) Anything that you'd use for panel lines on an airplane. But you do want a gloss surface (satin works) because you'll get more capillary action allowing the wash to highlight anything you want to bring out: it kind of adds a shadow around them. Then comes filters. Filters work much better over a matte finish. You can make your own with oils or enamels, but they must be very heavily thinned (90 or even 95% mineral spirit or enamel thinner). David Griffin suggests using three or four oil colors put on in three or four coats each. He likes black, white, sepia/umber and blue. (I'd be very careful with blue.) It sounds barbaric, but I thin the oils with Ronsonol which dries very quickly. Practice first: if you can clearly see your first coat of filter it's not thin enough. The build-up is slow and the object to change the tint of the entire model. If you're using heavy weather I'd add streaking grime. Many companies like MIG or AK make specific enamel mixes for streaking and they do work well, but a home made brew made with mineral spirits and enamels will work fine. Streaking should be less thinned than a filter. Google Mig Jimenez and streaking and you'll find one his early articles on it designed to be used without commercial products. Simply put, you lay down very thin lines of thinned enamels: let them set for a minute or two, then dampen another brush with thinner and drag it down over lines and they'll stretch out and create streaks. Rust is done much the same way.

You didn't mention PE. If you're not using a set, I'd really get a generic set of 1/600 rails and ladders: very cheap and easy to find. Railing is easily installed and it makes a huge difference on the completed model.

Anyway, there are many ways to handle this. Best of luck.

Eric





 

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