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  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:48 PM

Jibber: Man, I'm liking your 251 uhu. Unfotunate about the gap but, it appears to me that you have done some terrific work so far.

Well, I'm all ready to start cutting the sprue for my Hellcat. I'm rather stoked to build my first Eduard kit. In addition to the usual Profipack accessories I'll also be adding the exterior PE set and a True Details seat. 

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:32 PM

I have most of the AFV 251's in the stash, including the SzF, so looks like I will be getting plenty of practice at fixing issues.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by jibber on Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:21 PM

I really like AFV's Strykers but no more 251's.

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Posted by jibber on Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:21 PM

One was an AFV  Stukafuss, that was a real nightmare and the other a Tamiya that wasn't as bad.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:28 PM

Were they all AFV club kits.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by jibber on Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:02 PM

The light is primed black, I think I'm going with a 3 color camo. This is the third 251 I've had trouble with, and thats exactly correct that the top is to short. It's a good fit at the bottom but not the top corners. I'm pretty happy overall especially with the color of the lenses and happier I found them because one of them I don't think I could have made.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:57 PM

Nice to se this under way, and in the right GB Wink. Nice work on the light and lens. has the light been painted black.

I have only built a Dragon 251 so far and didn't have a problem fitting the top half. It looks like the top is a bit to short on this kit. I will have to keep that in mind, I am doing an AFV kit for this GB so will see if it has the same problem.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:12 PM

Rob, welcome aboard. Look forward to your Lanc.

Jsymth, nice to see this started, can't wait to see more.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:06 PM

Jsmyth: That ball turret looks great indeed!

Rob: Tanks for the info on the DH.2. I have Wingnut Wings' Roland in my stash and it looks awesome in the box, so it's good to know that the DH is as excellent as their other kits.

Thanks for pointing out the awesomeness of EZ line. I ordered a roll a few days ago but I wasn't sure if its worth the money.

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  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:32 PM

Jsmyth: Appears to me that you're off to a great start on your B-17. Really nice work on the ball turret.

Rob: Well, That's a bummer concerning the gun configuration for the Canadian version. Concerning your DH.2, please feel free to share some pics of that beaut. No doubt about EZ Line. May very well be one of the greatest contributions to plastic modeling since liquid cement.Big Smile

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:31 AM

Shatten Spartan, This DH.2 is the single most complicated build I've taken on. I got the "Duellists" DH.2 and Fokker E.III set in Dec of '12. I knocked off the E.III pretty quick and I'm just NOW getting on to finishing the DH.2. Solidly engineered masterpiece by WNW, of course, it's just the rigging. I figure at the end there will be almost 80ish individual strands of rigging for this beast. The lack of a tail, just booms made it quite frail as well, thus, it's been on the bench for over a year. Thank goodness for EZ line!!

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Posted by Jsmyth on Saturday, February 15, 2014 10:29 AM

Just started my B-17G for the group build. Here are so shots of the progress made so far. You all are doing such a great job on your builds.

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Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:49 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome Joe! I 'just' finished Revell's VERY excellent offering from them (my avatar pic). Now, I have the Airfix to compare. I am rather enjoying Airfix's new tooling process, so, I'm sure this big Lanc will not disappoint. My only 'heartache' is, as a Canadian, I love any company who produces Cdn versions of planes. HOWEVER, the Cdn version "Z-Zombie" does not have the rearward facing belly guns!! I was looking forward to this feature so, I may have to forego the Cdn version in favour of the Brit "Fanny Ferkin". We'll see how it goes (I REALLY want to include those guns!!).

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:40 AM

Hey There Rob! Welcome to the forum and definitely welcome to the GB. It is certainly awesome to have you among us here. I can assure you that you are going to enjoy yourself amongst the fantastic folks that are here. Now to the important stuff, oooohh.. a Lancaster! Now I'm looking forward to watching you build that up. And I am quite interested in how the Airfix mold measures up. Is that a newer mold or one of their older ones? I admit I am not completely savvy with newer Airfix stuff but, I definitely hear good things about their new molds. Glad to have ya Rob!

             Joe

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:35 AM

How is that DH.2 kit? I love the look of it!

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Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:29 AM

Awesome, thanks! Will get this one on the go prob in a week or so. Gonna get my WNW DH.2 'stringbag' off the bench before the Lanc dominates the space.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:08 AM

Welcome aboard, Rob! I'll add you to the build roster.

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Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:54 AM

Goodday Folks!! Newer member of the site and want to get involved in more GBs. I'd like to get in on this GB with my Airfix Lancaster B.II. 1-72  (withdrawn from service Sept 44). Don't see this big bird on the build list so I offer it up for this GB. Thanks!!

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, February 14, 2014 4:15 PM

Hey Blue, saw your post, though I would add a bit. Not sure what type of paint you use, but I've never had trouble with white. I can cover black with my white if I wanted to, with only 2-3 coats. I use Gunze or Tamiya off white. I would definately paint your stripes first, then mask them, then paint the cammo. Much less overall masking, and that way, you don't have to worry about paint build up over the edges.

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 14, 2014 2:52 PM

I'm not trying to say what you should do, as everyone has a favorite approach on how to mask/paint their models. Here's what I would do:

  • pre-shade the areas with the stripes
  • spray white
  • mask off the white stripes and spray the black areas
  • pre-shade the rest of the model
  • proceed painting the OD and NG as usual

This approach worked great on my Thunderbolt, although I didn't paint and mask any stripes but yellow lower surfaces and tailplane. No big difference though...

Do you plan on painting the fuselage code and stars? if you do, I'd do the following:

  • pre-shade areas with stripes and insignia
  • spray white
  • mask white stripes, fuselage code and star
  • paint blue bars and circle around the stars
  • mask blue areas
  • paint black stripes
  • mask stripes (stars should still be masked)
  • pre-shade rest of the model
  • spray OD and NG as usual in thin layers so you don't get a ridge between the camo and the insignia

I hope this helps...

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Posted by Big Blue on Friday, February 14, 2014 12:43 PM

A brief update and request for advice:

Update first.  Since my last post, I have primed the majority of the external surfaces using Mr. Surfacer 1200 cut with Mr. Leveling Thinner.  No pictures, because it pretty much just looks like a gray fuselage.  I did have a few seams that required additional attention.  Oh joy.

Now the advice.  I am ready to start painting actual colors, and am slightly hung up on the order in which to proceed.  As I have mentioned in other post, I have only recently returned to the hobby after 35 is years, and this is the first build that I have undertaken with invasion stripes.  On other builds, I have sprayed the overall color first (both have been NMF), and then painted the required unit and theater stripes afterwards.  This job is a bit more complicated:

I have spent some time in a graphics program to create a template for cutting the mask to leave the space around the "4" (and the "B" on the other side), as well as a round cutout so that the stripes don't show under the white star.  Now my question is the paint order.

Do I paint the stripes first, then mask and paint the gray & olive drab?  The advantage here is it will be easier to cover the primer than the olive paint with the white for the stripes.  Spray white first, then cover with black... both can be done with thin coats.  The tricky part is that unless I am comfortable with black and white over spray into the area to be painted olive, I would need to mask the future olive areas, paint stripes, then mask the stripe area to paint olive/gray.  I would need to carefully line up the irregularly shaped horizontal edge with the already painted shapes.  Or...

Do I paint the aircraft, then mask off and paint the stripes?  Advantage here is that it seems like it will be easier to mask since I can mask off the striped area and I only have to line up the odd shaped horizontal edges once.  Define the overall area, spray white, cover white, spray black.  The downside is that I am worried about paint build up given that the olive & gray will be harder to cover with the white.

Is that clear?  Am I making it more complicated than it needs to be?  What do you folks with more experience think?

Thanks in advance,

Blue

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:02 PM

Sounds like I'm in good company then!

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by greentracker98 on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:52 PM

silentbob33

My wife and students might say it borders on an obsession, but my dad got me hooked pretty much out of the womb, and the same for my son.

Bob, In our local model club (Knox (PA) Scale Modelers) We have an Grandfather, Son, and GrandsonGeeked

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:49 PM

SchattenSpartan

What's not to love about Star Wars? Big Smile

I got ya on the list, Bob!

Apparently there are some people out there who don't like it. I reckon its just a vicious rumour myself, but stranger things have happened.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:43 PM

What's not to love about Star Wars? Big Smile

I got ya on the list, Bob!

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:41 PM

My wife and students might say it borders on an obsession, but my dad got me hooked pretty much out of the womb, and the same for my son.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:37 PM

Not to late at all bob. Sign up for this runs to the end of the year. I see your getting hooked on GB's already.

Going slightly off topic, this is probably a silly question, but given your avatar and your current build, i take it your a Star Wars fan.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:34 PM

I hope it's not too late to sign up, but if I can, I'd like to do my 1/32 Lindberg LCVP.  I'm planning on buying some figures for it and eventually turn it into a Normandy diorama.  It'll be the first naval craft I've ever built (excluding an awful carrier I built when I was in middle school) and the first diorama I've done in a long time.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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