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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:24 PM

Well I should hope not... Its part of the history of the birdies we build and not ment to be any thing but. My build for this GB will also have "Nose Art" and sorry, but again, its part of the era and history. Still waiting on some parts to arrive and I cant start till then. Keep up the great work all!

Take care...

Doug

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:18 PM

Jack: Oops, I didn't think of that...

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:36 AM

Clemens, that is stunning nose art on the B-25, just hope you don't get hit with the time out stick for posting it.

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I'm thinking of a subject with some Russian flavour for this GB.  Looking through the stash, dug out a 1/72 kit of the KV-85.  Though it was designed in the previous year of this GB's theme, it does have a decal option for 1944.  If it is acceptable, sign me up.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:14 AM

JOE RIX

Nearly 30 251's! Holy Lord Bish, your as bad as Clemens and his FW 190's. Are they all 1/72?

72nd, o no. All my armour is 1/35th. One of my long term projects is to build one of every variant and version of the 251. this is one I may never leave to do, but its fun to have a goal.

I have calculated that there are 63 in all, so I am not even half way.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:23 PM

Nearly 30 251's! Holy Lord Bish, your as bad as Clemens and his FW 190's. Are they all 1/72?

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:40 PM

LOL, well, I don't need much of an excuse to build a 251. And as I have nearly 30 in the stash, I think its time I got a couple built. I was going to do my Tamiya /9, but that's a bit of a complicated and time consuming dio, so went for an easier option.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:37 PM

Sure, buddy! I see you got kinda inspired by scanning in those instructions for me Big Smile

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:36 PM

Yeah, I think I'll start working on my B-25 nonetheless, but in a WIP thread jsut for her. That allows me to take my time with the big bird...

I should be able to start work on my Hellcat in a week or two.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:33 PM

Great work there Blue. I have been giving some thought to those HGW belts, I have one set in 32nd, unfortunately they don't seem to do them in 72nd, PE belts can be a pain.

G-J, I do the same as Blue when it comes to leaving part on the sprue. Its especially handy if you need to paint both sides, you can use the piece of sprue to clamp something to and stand it up, so you can do both sides at once. I try and remove as many of the attachments as possible, especially if the side also needs painting. And those wooden cloths pegs are really handy as well, especially for canopies.

Jsmyth, welcome aboard. Just post progress pics when ever you can and enjoy the ride.

Clemen's, can you put me down for the AFV Club 35th 251/3 Ausf D.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:25 PM

I can fully understand Clemens. Then how about starting with the Hellcat?

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:23 PM

I'm a bit hesitant because of the deadline as well. I don't want to rush this build, but it's soo tempting...

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:16 PM

Welcome to the GB Jsmyth! The B-17 sounds awesome. It will definitely be a treat to follow your build.

Clemens: Boy, those are tough to choices as each one would be great. But, I have to toss my vote in for the big B-25. I would love to watch someone build that. Yet, in all honesty, will you be able to realistically finish that up by the deadline along with your other commitments? If it's all good, then go for it.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:59 PM

Ihave a lot of AM stuff for both bombers at hand, so if I build one of them it's going to be extremely "blinged out":

  • Eduard masks
  • Eduard glass nose PE
  • Eduard cockpit PE
  • Eduard wheels
  • HGW seatbelts
  • Brass barrels (Master for B-17/Profimodeller for B-25)
  • Kits-World stencilling decals
  • Nose art decals (Zotz for B-17/Kits-World for B-25 
  • Probably some masks for the "Stars and Bars" because they are really big and would profit from painting them

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:53 PM

Jsmyth: You just gave me an idea: I could build either my big B-25 or my B-17 (both 1/32) for this one instead of my current entries. They are both huge birds in that scale, but the B-17 is a whole lot bigger than the B-25, so it's probably going to be the B-25 painted up as this aircraft:

So what do you guys think? Eduard P-38 and Hellcat or one of the big HKM bombers? Plese help me decide on this or I'll end up trying to build all 3 of them...

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:42 PM

Welcome aboard! I put you on the list. Just follow the rules and post WIP pics and you should be fine. The most important thing is to have fun though!

Viejo: ice work on that V-2! Have you tried using microfiller to remove those seams? If they are too big for that, try thin superglue...

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Posted by Jsmyth on Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:26 PM

I would like to join this group build if I still can. I have never do a Group build before. I am going to build the Revell 1/48 B17G Chow Hound.

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Posted by GreySnake on Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:22 PM

Some great work going on here guys. I'm amazed at some of the detail!

Still haven't started my build yetSad I'm hoping in the next couple weeks after I finish two other group builds.

David

G-J
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Posted by G-J on Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:23 PM

Big Blue - you've just given me an idea I hadn't thought of....I too do some painting on the sprue...as I find it acts as a steadier hand; and I don't have to worry about positioning what I'm holding.  However, there are some pieces that I find difficult to paint on the sprue due to the angle or shape.

And I see you've cut the sprue..making a nice handle and getting other parts or sprue pieces out of the way...too cool.  What a great idea.

Thanks.

On the bench:  Tamyia Mosquito Mk. VI for the '44 group build.  Yes, still.

On deck: 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:13 AM

Big Blue: Fantastic cockpit you've put together there. The detailing is extremely well done. As far as gluing PE goes you might try a couple of different glues. One being CA Gel which has a slower drying time allowing one time to place the part and it does not make a mess like liquid CA. The other is using Gator Glue. It's basically Elmers glue on steroids. Again, slow drying, less mess and no fumes.

Viejo: Appears to me that your making some right nice progress there.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Big Blue on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:10 PM

Thanks Clemens and Rider.  Despite the tedium of painting and gluing all those tiny bits, I love working on the cockpits because there is so much detail.

The V2 looks like its coming along nicely, Viejo.  I'm sure you will get your seams under control.

Clemens, I hear you regarding the seat belts... really tough for me to get them to lie properly.  I broke off and lost the buckle release handle trying to get the belt to lie flat in the bottom of the seat, and had to remove and re-glue the leather pad.  I have been tempted by those HGW belts, and you may have finally sold me on them.  Next build!  That said, I saw your handiwork on the FW 190, and you made those p.e. belts look great.

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Posted by Viejo on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:36 PM

I'm progressing as well, kind of.  Seams still elude me, and masking was fubar.

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:51 PM

Big Blue... WOW what an amazing job you've done on the pit! Just beautiful.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:25 PM

Fantastic work, Blue! I just love me some nice jugs (Thunderbolts, that is... Wink)

Regarding the PE: I use thin, slow drying CA for tiny parts. It works quite well, but the parts are still easy to break off. I only attach such tiny things directly before glueing the cockpit together and trapping it between the fuselage halves. I have some trouble with PE parts as well ATM, but my frustration is caused by the PE seatbelts supplied with the Eduard Fw 190 kits. Those seatbelts are a royal pain in the Censored to get in place without looking wierd or completely messing up the cockpit finish (superglue residue on the seat). I'm a huge fan of HGW's fabric seatbelts though. They look awesome (way better than PE), assemble easier once you get the hang of it and you can drape them around any seat without having to worry about them looking awkward. I'll never use PE belts again if I can get my hands on some HGW replacements...

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Posted by Big Blue on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:06 PM

Well, I have some progress to share:

The seat and walls are not yet glued in, but I wanted to take the pictures.  iPhone macro photos are not flattering, but everything looks ok at normal viewing distances.  

The cockpit & IP are the Tamiya parts augmented with p/e from the Eduards P-47 D 20 detail & Zoom Placard kits.  Tamiya acrylics, dry brushed enamel silver, an oil wash (black & burnt umber), and "European Dust" MIG pigments.  I attached the flat-coated outer IP photo-etch to the inner etched panel (instrument dial faces) with Future to get a glassy effect.  Hard to see in this photo, but I think it worked.

Speaking of attaching photo-etch, I really need a better way to work with those #$%'n little handles and such.  I have been using Zap CA, both the thin and medium viscosities, and have had at best mixed success.  Attaching placards is one thing, but trying to get a handle with a half a hair's width of surface area to attach to the curved surface of the throttle quadrant is beyond frustrating.  I'd say the CA holds on the first attempt on less than 30% of the tries.  I've even started using the Zap accelerator (coat the surface with accelerator using a seeing needle, dip the end of the handle in CA, join & pray), but can't say the results are stellar.  The accelerator adds some noxious fumes to the game as well.

How do you guys do it?  Someone must have a better way than I.  Even when I do successfully attach the piece, the bond is so fragile the pieces fall apart if I look at them funny.  Not sure how I am going to mask the cockpit interior when it comes time to paint the exterior... again, advice is welcome.

That's all so far.  I plan on adding some cables to the back of the instrument panel, closing up the cockpit box, and then turning my attention to the Double Wasp.  I do love those big Pratt & Whitney radials.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:48 AM

Ken, you should switch to Eduard Fw 190s. They are way easier to build and the parts count isn't so high either Wink

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:00 AM

lol, ye Ken, all those parts in there, it could be a struggle.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by greentracker98 on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:41 PM

After opening the plastic bag, I've decided that I may not be able to get the V-1 done by the end of the year. That is said with extremely heavy sarcasm LOL

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Posted by greentracker98 on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:31 PM

Okay, I just got my V-1 Rocket today.

I only have an Aztec Airbrush. I like it although the other brands sound like they are easier to clean.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, January 20, 2014 7:00 PM

Indeed Doug! Congrats to the Seahawks! One of the best games I've watched in a while. I am definitely stoked for the Super Bowl.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, January 20, 2014 6:05 PM

LOLOLOL!!! By the way, Congrats Joe on a great game and a well deserved win by your Broncos!

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