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Posted by mikeymize on Friday, August 22, 2014 9:45 AM

ajd3530

Well I'm sure this has been touched upon at least once here, but now that I have the wings installed, I have to say that I had NO idea just how large these were. I put it up to compare against my T-6 (which is nowhere near being a small plane) and the Stuka pretty much dwarfs it!

That's so true. Like the P-47 this was one rugged plane. A very robust, purpose designed aircraft that, allied fighters notwithstanding, could absorb a lot of punishment and still get the aircrew back in one piece. Even without the luxury of redundant controls and titanium cockpits this thing was a survivor!Black Eye

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 22, 2014 8:28 AM

I bet you guys thought I had forgotten about this. Big Smile I got back to the 144 G-2 the other day, after adding the decals, I sprayed on some exhaust staining, it was tricky trying not to add to much, and then a matt coat. The spinner spiral is not perfect, its a decal and the first time I have added one in any scale. I have also filled in the seam down the middle of the pit, so I need to sand and paint that and then ad the canopy.

  

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 22, 2014 2:32 AM

I know what you mean ajd. I have been studying Stuka's for years and looked at lots of photo's. But it wasn't until I put some figures next to one that I got a full idea of how big it is. I think the fact that's its a single engine gives the impression that its smaller than it is.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Friday, August 22, 2014 1:10 AM

Well I'm sure this has been touched upon at least once here, but now that I have the wings installed, I have to say that I had NO idea just how large these were. I put it up to compare against my T-6 (which is nowhere near being a small plane) and the Stuka pretty much dwarfs it!

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:44 PM

Greg

My pleasure, Bish.

If I mess stuff up, I plan on blaming Joe. Stick out tongue

Good call.

lawdog, its your fault (just getting in early) Big Smile

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:25 AM

My pleasure, Bish.

If I mess stuff up, I plan on blaming Joe. Stick out tongue

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:21 AM

Thanks Greg, I will get them saved and have a god read before my next cockpit. I can get some practice in before getting to the big 109.

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:19 AM

Bish

Greg, you mentioned earlier you are using joe's method for the cockpit. Do you have a link for his tut, I remember seeing it but didn't save it and now can't find it.

Sure do, Bish. Have a couple, an older one and a newer one....

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/156030.aspx

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/160714.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1

This first is a straight tutorial from July last year. The second is Joe's Dauntless WIP thread, currently in progress.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:48 AM

Your doing a good job with that ajd.

Greg, you mentioned earlier you are using joe's method for the cockpit. Do you have a link for his tut, I remember seeing it but didn't save it and now can't find it.

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:44 AM

Lookin' good ajd.

Looks like you caught on quickly to using toothpick for paint. IP instrument faces look perfectly round. I'll have to try that sometime myself.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:26 AM

You look like you are doing the ol Monogram some justice there adj! I know what youre talking about concerning the empty space in the fuselage with the lack of a radiator at the back. Hasegawa tried to put something in there but you can still see into the fuselage if you get the angle just right. Keep pluggin' away bubba!!!!

                   

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:33 PM

Shooter, that cockpit is awesome!!! Thanks for the pics! I'd love to see your ammo magazines once you have them finished.

ajd, that oughta work. Way to plan ahead.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:22 PM
Well figured all I could do with the radiator with the skills I have was trim a piece of sheet plastic to slide down into the cockpit floor up against the back side of the radiator. Nothing fancy at all, but at least it will close it up and you won't be seeing daylight through the cockpit out of the back of the radiator.



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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:38 PM

Sweet looking pit there Shooter. Love it.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:33 PM

That cockpit looks awesome Shooter!

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:18 PM

Thanks,,,I just said the heck with it and now glued the cockpit to the R/H fuselage. Don't think the engine assembly will take too long once I get going on that. The block is together and just needs painting then once the fuselage is together, start detailing that portion. After that's done the rest is all downhill.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:04 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Nice !

                   

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:03 PM

A few update pics here, I'm still adding things before I close her up. Thanks to Bish for posting that pic of the MG and the ammo drums. I thought they had a strap on them so I will get to those too.

The pilot seat is not glued in yet, still need to work on the seat back.

When I first built one of these Airfix kits back around 1978, I just slapped it together and was done withing a few days. But detailing this one is more fun now. Be easier if there were AM sets for it.

Scott

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:19 PM

Bish, you da man!!!

Thanks very much, and I have a bit of repainting to do.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:14 PM

That's looking good greg. I need to try joe's method for cockpits, well done for giving it a try. And ye, those are the drum magazines. You can see the colour in the pic I posted above.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:12 PM

Greg, ye, on these early aircraft, they were armed with a single gun at the rear, which used twin drum magazines. The same things were used on most of the twin engine bombers.

they only used belt feed ammo when the MG 81Z was introduced on the D variants. 

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:03 PM

Since I've been whining about pics, here's where I'm at. Nothing comment-worthy, just show and tell.

BTW, this is the second time I've tried to emulate Lawdog Joe's cockpit method, and the second time I've laid on the interior color too heavy and lost the benefit of the black primer. Sigh.

Still plenty to do. Oh, and I repainted the belts. :)

One of the parts I was asking about above is the brighter green one on the craft stick at the right. There are two of them. They mount on the four squares on the side panel directly left.

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:28 AM

Ammo boxes sound right. They seem to have handles on them which suggests they were meant to be removed from the sidewall.

So they could reload ammo from the cockpit? I had no idea. So the MG 15 was the rear facing gun then?

Thanks, Bish!

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:12 AM

Greg, just behind the gunners on his left side as he faces read should be a couple of box's which are connected to the radio's. If they are further back, next to where his knees might be, these could be the spare ammo drums for the MG 15.

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:06 AM

Clemens, the suspense is killing me......

Zvezda, looking forward to some pics. It's too quiet here.

AJD, same as above. Looking forward to some progress shots.

Shooter, please keep the pics coming. I'm using your cockpit as a Stuka reference!!!

Question: On my Italeri 1:48 kit, at the aft right cockpit sidewall (sort of to the left of the gunner's seat if he is facing aft), there are two rows of 5 oblong shaped somethings. Can anyone tell me what these are? (If this isn't clear I can post a pic)

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Posted by ajd3530 on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:50 AM

Print scale makes a sheet that has a couple of Luftwaffe D's. Now there are some questions about the quality of them though. I am going to try to use them on mine, so in a few weeks I could let you know how it goes.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:59 AM

Ye, I know. Its not any better in 72nd either, especially for the D/G variants. Super/Micro scale used to do some, its just a shame their decals are so hard to get hold of.

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:45 AM

Bish...I seen the Eastern European sets, hard to believe the manufacturers stop printing Luftwaffe sets.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:17 AM

That's good news aj, look forward to seeing the pics.

Shooter, when I checked Hannants, allof the Ju 87D decals in 48th were for aircraft operated by Eastern European nations. I couldn't find anything on SB. But there must be some out there some where.

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