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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:11 PM

Beautiful works all of them.

ajd that is a stunner.  

Bvallot, I have to say I believe you have put just as much into yours if not more than I have.  It really is not about how many parts, how much time, or any of that.  You have taken a basic kit and put some of your blood, sweat, and tears into it and it shows.  

Raymond sorry to hear about the loss of phone.  Bad news especially in todays lifestyle where so much of our lives are on our phones.  The Hawk is looking very good none the less.  

Joe

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Posted by Raymond G on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:37 PM

Hey Britt, Honestly, on the green I used plain old Tamiya Olive Drab (NOT Olive Green).  But on the brown I used three parts Tamiya Yellow to one part Tamiya Red/Brown.  I figured it was as close as I was going to get.  One thing to remember as well, different monitors are going to give slightly different pigmentation renderings...  Raymond

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:56 PM

Okay! Here's a quick update with more to come later tonight hopefully.

I'm finally able to get these wheels turning over and get moving.  =]  I started painting this Hawk and now it's starting to come to life.  I'll try to be brief here.  Began painting the skidwalk on the wings.  There seems to be some talk as to whether or not these were present, but in many of the photos I referenced these skidwalks were painted over in the camo scheme of Earth and Green colors and worn away somewhat with use and became visible.  So I've included them here with the intent of painting over them and using MiG's product Absolute Chipping to subtly reveal them.

 image by brittvallot, on Flickr

Normally I would wear these a bit more to show the aluminum surface underneath, but that doesn't seem to be the case with them painted over in DuPont colors.

 image by brittvallot, on Flickr

For the undersurfaces, I'm trying something different.  It seems that due to a lack of communication between US manufacturers and British reps at the time, the color Sky has a shady history.  There are two colors describing a light blueish-grey, but it seems this color may have changed with more colors coming into the palette for the British which required a wider degree of separation.  I have my sources that I've been referencing for this build, but I would certainly love to hear from anybody on the forum that knows a bit of the history behind this story, but for now I'll just get to the point.

Since there is no true FS match for DuPont 71-021I have come up with a mix of my own.  There are several P-40s showing undersurfaces painted with the -021 and later retouched with a Neutral Grey.  So with the help of MiG's Absolute Chipping I'll be painting the bluer color down first and following up with a slightly warmer grey.  =]  With the help of a phone app (thanks to dflu78) I've put together a mix that approximates FS 36463 which is a bluer mix of -021. I use Tamiya acrylics for everything that isn't metal. =]  For this color I chose Sky Grey [XF-19] and RLM Grey [XF-22] in a 2:1 ratio respectively.  Now...what I actually ended up doing since I'm too impatient to wait 24 hours and get more paint at the LHS...I instead mixed Sky Grey [XF-19], Dark Grey [XF-24], and Flat White [XF-2] in a 2:1:1 ratio respectively.  The actual color came out a little greyer than I wanted, but I think it would've been fine.  I did end up adding Light Blue [XF-23] at about 50% of what the mix was to give it a bluer color.  Even though I haven't personally mixed the first mix, I do believe it would be an easier way to get this color. This is where I'm at now:

 image by brittvallot, on Flickr

I'll cover this with the Chipping solution and allow to dry and come back over it with the next color which I'll outline later as I need to stop now seeing as I got a little long winded.  =]


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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:44 AM

HA!  I can remember Looney Toon episodes from back in the day...Dark Africa, Darker Africa, Darkest Africa!! lol.  Glad to have you back Ray.  Just got your message.  No sweat. =]   Looks like you got your paint down already.  Those colors look pretty good.  I'm doing my best to find that elusive DuPont color scheme that everyone always talks about. I'll talk more about it as I get there.  I mean if I ever get there.  =[  Both of your picks look pretty close to what the colors faded to.  Looking forward to seeing you finish.

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:14 AM

Hey Greg, sorry to hear about your phone! I thought it was only here in deep dark Africa that they still steal phones.

Theuns

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Posted by Raymond G on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:56 AM

Hi every one.  I hope everyone is doing well.  It's been a crazy several weeks for me coupled with someone absconding with my phone.  The phone wouldn't have been a huge deal, but almost every picture of my P-40 had not backed up for some reason and is now gone and lost forever.  When that happened, well, I just got disheartened and ended up focusing on more important issues.  That said, I did manage to start the painting process, and I thought I'd give everyone a teaser of sorts.  This is the first time I've ever done a patterned job, and other than cutting a little deep in my masking tape, I was pleased with my self.  I'll do a WIP as far as the paint job, and I'm hoping to finish by the end of the week.  Talk to you soon, Raymond

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Posted by mississippivol on Monday, August 4, 2014 7:12 PM

Well done, AJ!

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Posted by ajd3530 on Monday, August 4, 2014 12:40 PM
Thanks! And I appreciate you hosting! I'll be waiting for the next P-40 group. I've got 7 more of these AMtech P-40s waiting on me. I'm itching to do an E model!

Here is a better pic of the busiest part of the bird, taken inside. The crazing on the inside of the windows is more visable here.

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Posted by Theuns on Monday, August 4, 2014 12:32 PM

Very well done mate. Front page updated with pic  :-)

Thanx for takning part

Theuns

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Posted by ajd3530 on Monday, August 4, 2014 12:05 PM

Well I took the easy way out and used the Model Masters RAF azure blue. All the weathering was done with chalk pastels. A light base of brown mixed with black, then a heavy brushing of brown, then highlight than witb a sandy yellow. The oil/soot on the bottom is just straight up black. The exaust is a heavy coat of black, but I dampened the brush just a bit. It makes the black come out thicker and and it doesn't feather out as easy. And then a light coat of brown, and just a brush or two of white. Sone of you may be scratching your head at that, but go look at exaust stains of engines that burn heavy leaded fuel. It really has a brownish hue to it. Paint chipping was done with a sharpie paint pen. The green has little if any chipping, just dust, as the plane was originially desert camo all over. But once they moved up to central Italy, the pilot put the green on the fuselage for better camo flying in and out of the steep valleys.

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, August 4, 2014 11:38 AM

Alright! One more time. =]  Yeah, the photos are a bit too high in contrast to see the crazing.  That's happened to me several times.  No matter how tight I think my masks are.  In some cases I've been able to lightly scratch some of it off, but in others I just had to live with it.  In reference to the preshading, I wouldn't sweat it too much.  I've definitely been guilty of overdoing the panel lines and preshade in areas.  I think less is more in that department.  I know it's frustrating not achieving your efforts worth, but I think you still have come out with a great looking paint job nonetheless.  =]

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, August 4, 2014 11:32 AM

Ha! Of course this post comes in just moments before mine.  =D  It came out really nice ajd. I'm glad to see somebody put together a paint scheme like this one.  Beautiful!   How did you go about picking the blue?

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Posted by ajd3530 on Monday, August 4, 2014 11:25 AM

All in all I am satisfied with it. But... It could have been alot better. Paint went in too thick,.eliminating the pre-shading I did. And somehow, the back windows got crazed over. I don't know if it was glue or the ckear coat leaked under or what. Oh well.. Oh and you can use the 5th photo down for your wall of fame. I used some effects to make it alittle sharper.

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, August 4, 2014 11:16 AM

Joe: I do appreciate it.  I never mean to be a smart-ass. Just acknowledging your perseverance and craftsmanship. =]  There have been several times where some of the simplest things where setting me back, and I couldn't make it work and I almost tossed it in the trash. Just tipping my hat to you is all!  One of these days I'll put one together like yours...hopefully before we start having kids. lol.

But again, thanks for the words. =]

Rigidrider:  Thanks!  I knew I wasn't imagining things.  And I'll admit I was a bit too lazy to dig through 30 pages of forum to figure it out. lol  Glad to hear you reiterate the sharpie working out.  I've considered using a green one for the sides of glass before, but just wasn't sure how well it would would work (shine/adhere/etc).

ajd: Glad to hear it.  Can't wait to see them.  I will have something posted of the painting at some point today.  Absolutely, I promise!! lol

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Posted by ajd3530 on Monday, August 4, 2014 11:15 AM
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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:36 PM

No........don't believe you without hard evidence!   (the old "pix romorrow" is my line LOL!)

Looking forward to seeing them.

Theuns

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Posted by ajd3530 on Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:11 PM

Well I'm calling mine finished. Pictures tomorrow!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:52 PM

BV... I was the one using the marker. I used a Sharpie ultra fine tip and an extra fine tip to outline the Skull, and no... shine was not a problem. Sharpies worked well and dulled out nicely when over sprayed with dull coat.

Doug

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, August 2, 2014 10:49 PM

bvallot
fightnjoe:  Who are you kidding?  I doubt I have half the work and time in my P-40 compared to yours.  You might as well drop some diesel in yours and see if starts! =]

It is not about time or effort.  Yours is a showcase for your skills.  It really is a beauty of a build.  

Joe

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Posted by bvallot on Friday, August 1, 2014 11:40 PM

No kidding!  Man, I swore I saw somebody on here doing a P-40 with a Skull and he talked about making the outline with a permanent marker. Well, anyhow...I am recalling your mention of the Tamiya Flat Black.

Does anybody find it funny that I'm watching "Sharknado" while working on this Flying Tiger?? =P

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Friday, August 1, 2014 11:13 PM

Thanks guys!!  I hope to finish up this weekend.  

Bv - I didn't use any permanent marker - the skull is Tamiya white with Tamiya flat black for the outline.  The mouth portion is from the skull decal.

Steve

 

 

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Posted by bvallot on Friday, August 1, 2014 9:58 PM

ajd: That is a nice looking paint scheme.  Glad to see something new.  It's coming out great! =]

Steve: My younger, angrier self is cheering for your skull.  This came out nicely.  Does that permanent marker shine at all?  I would imagine after a flat coat it shouldn't be a problem.

fightnjoe:  Who are you kidding?  I doubt I have half the work and time in my P-40 compared to yours.  You might as well drop some diesel in yours and see if starts! =]

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, August 1, 2014 3:57 PM

Looking good Steve! You know I'd like it! Looking forward to the finish.

Doug

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Posted by ajd3530 on Friday, August 1, 2014 3:33 PM

Ok, I now have the fuselage sealed up and weathered, and I actually DIDN'T go too far with it this time! How about that?? Dealing with tiddley bits now (landing gear, bombs, ect.) And should be able to call her finished tomorrow.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, August 1, 2014 7:20 AM

Steve beautiful work on the skull.  The overall is stunning.

Joe

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Posted by mississippivol on Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:34 PM

Beautiful work, y'all!

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:04 PM

Hey Guys,

I've been working away on my P-40N and am very close to being finished.  I still have to add the exhaust staining and some chipping.  The reversed fuel tank (napalm tank) needs to be added.  I'm pretty happy with the weathering,  Here are some photos:

The actual aircraft:

Now the model:

I forgot to mention that I painted the skull on the nose of the aircraft.  I traced the decal on a piece of paper and transferred that to a piece of tamiya tape which I laid over a base of white.  I did use the mouth portion of the decal rather than painting it.  I'm happy with how the skull came out.

Steve

 

 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:45 AM

Beautiful work all the way through.  

Bvallot you have really shown what can be done with patience.  Excellent work.

ajd that is a cool looking scheme.  Really eyecatching.  

Joe

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:03 AM

That is a really interesting scheme on that P-40 with camo wings and the mono tone fuse.

Theuns

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Posted by ajd3530 on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:51 PM
Ooops! My bad

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