2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

Sorry.  Let's put my response in the right spot.

I don't have Tamiya NATO black, but I do have Testors flat rubber.  Unfortunately, it has a brown tint to it.  The Vallejo RLM 66 I have is pretty dark, but I don't think it's quite dark enough.  I don't know.  Maybe I can play around and figure something out.  I all else fails, I'll just pick up some NATO black when I'm in town. 

Bish

flyerduke

Doug - Excellent looking engine.  I'm currently assembling mine.  What color did you use to paint it?  The kit I'm building calls for Metal Black.  I have a MM Gun Metal, but it looks more blue than black. Is there a RLM color that can be used?  Thanks Craig.

Clemens - Your twin build looks great.

I am trying to decide what colour to use on my engine as well. I have done some searches but can't find any info on a good colour to use. I was thinking of a semi gloss black, but looking at pics I don't think a pure black looks right. I do want to use an enamel otherwise I might go for Tamiya NATO black. I am thinking of trying a black with a very small amount of white. My instructions don't give any info on painting, even though its an engine kit.

I just did a google search and found an article on here from a coupe of years ago. There is a couple of Humbrol paints mentioned that look promising, 32 and 182. Someone also mentioned Anthracite, I have the Xtracolor one for that but I don't think its quite dark enough. I think I will get one of each Humbrol colour and try those.

Wow nice work Spartan. Love the detail work.  Rigid, your engine is looking great.

These builds are inspiring me to finish my Bf 110G-4 and get working on my Bf 109D.

Keep up the great work everyone.

Doug, that engine looks smashing. Great tip re base black of some sort then dry brush some aluminum. Thanks for that, is very timely and a great tip indeed.

Modelcrazy, that's an interesting looking kit/scheme. Looking forward to watching this one for sure.

Interesting idea about the Aluminium. AK have brought out some metal oil paints, I might try one of those. Would the engine have been Aluminium or Steel.

Moose... Well, Whatcha waiting for brother??? LOL  Jump on in!

Bish, What I do is give the engine a good base coat of the Black, allow to dry then "Dry Brush" aluminum or yes , steel will work too, onto the bolt heads and other wear areas (pretty much the whole engine) to simulate scratches, wear, and chipping. Works real well.

Flyerduke... Maybe try this... If all you have is flat black, do the base coat in flat black, then put a few drops of 66 or a lighter gray in with some isopropol rubbing alcohol (acrylic paint of course) and spray mist coat on the flat black and allow to dry, repeat as needed to get the desired look. I use a hair drier to speed up the process as alcohol dries super fast to begin with. Only a few drops at a time , about a 95 to 5 mix, being 95% alcohol to 5%pigment. Rubbing alcohol has a very nice dulling effect on paints and I use it almost every time as a top fading coat even over (or mixed with) the dull coat. Just a thought, hope it helps.

Greg my friend ...anytime!

By the by, I tried to look up the DB info again and found every thing from RLM02 to Dead Flat Black. I will continue to search.

Doug

Thanks Doug. I don't plan to do to much wear and tear on mine, but would like a little.

I have also found a range of colours on those engines. But they look like museum pieces and so the question is have they been repainted. I think I am going to go with a semi gloss NATO type black.

Howdy all!  I've been a lurker on this GB for a few days now.  I have even gone ordered the 1/32 Revell Bf-109G-6.  I am not going to officially join this build for the simple fact that I have too many other projects going on right now; however, I will be following along and watching these birds come together.  I have never built a the 109 before in any scale.  I have always liked this aircraft.  Once I get it and get started I may ask some questions.

Just an idea about the engine. How about mixing some prussian blue, with black? I've used this for tires in the past, though with more prussian blue than would go into an engine. It is a very interesting mix giving an ever so subtle blueish tint. I would imagine it would go with NATO black very well.

Thanks for all the input everyone.  I'm probably do some type of mix.  I'll shoot the engine then post pics.  We'll see how it turns out by committee.

Hey guys! I'm kinda getting a late start. First I've been sick as a dog since last week. I have not felt up to doing nothing. Secondly, I am woefully unprepared. I realized I did not have all the correct paint that I need. Such as all the correct RLM paint. Finally, due to the nature of my job which is seasonal. I find I have lack of funds to purchase the needed paint. So my progress will be slow for the time being.  At least I have a small, simple kit that does not require an extreme amount of time.  I find the progress and the information very useful and interesting.  Thank you.

Tom, I believe that would work just fine. The DB engines do have a slight (even through the black appearance)  Blue/Gray (however dark) hue to them.

Jelliott... Never built a 109 ??? Mustang, SS... Get this man signed up quickly! We may not be too late yet!!! LOLOL... Just kidding, Question away... loads of talented and helpful folks here.

Tom, ye, that idea of adding a touch of blue sounds good. I think it might be worth doing a bit of testing first. Going to be a while before I get to painting mine anyway.

Duke, be looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

Rigidrider

Jelliott... Never built a 109 ??? Mustang, SS... Get this man signed up quickly! We may not be too late yet!!! LOLOL... Just kidding, Question away... loads of talented and helpful folks here.

Thanks Rigid!  Yep, I have to admit, I've never built a 109.  To be honest, I've never built anything other than US aircraft.  I know, I know, I am limiting myself.  However, to clarify, since I have just got back into this hobby after a long hiatus, I am expanding my horizons.  I'm actually looking forward to getting my hands on the 1/32 Bf-109G-G!  I've decided to "Go big, or go home!"

I can definitely tell right now that I will have lots of questions regarding the best RLM paints.  I've been looking around and see that there are several different producers.  I'm not 100% acrylic or 100% enamel.  I'll use whatever.

The cockpit is almost complete. I still need to put in the belts and the gun sight (which I like to wait until later to do because of the carpet monster.) I'll finish the fuselage sides and put the halves together now. The hard part is over..whew. So far I am impressed with this kit. The detail is great and the fit has been fantastic so far. Thanks for having a look...

jelliott523

  I have never built a the 109 before in any scale.  I have always liked this aircraft.  Once I get it and get started I may ask some questions.

panzerpilot

The cockpit is almost complete. I still need to put in the belts and the gun sight (which I like to wait until later to do because of the carpet monster.) I'll finish the fuselage sides and put the halves together now. The hard part is over..whew. So far I am impressed with this kit. The detail is great and the fit has been fantastic so far. Thanks for having a look...

Thanks. It's some old Pollyscale RLM02 I had laying around. I shot it right from the bottle over a black preshade. It a bit darker away from the light. Just one of those color variations that RLM can have.

Tom... Nice work! Very realistic looking! I'm just starting the office, and hope it comes out as good.

Jelliott... No problem Bud... Happens a lot here and always glad to have you back! I've been building for about 50 years, and never stopped but did slow WAYYY down. I really got back into it big time about 10/15 yrs ago, and about 4 yrs ago got in with this lot and I'll just save you the time wondering... No finer bunch of guys and on occasion gals anywhere. Throw in when ever, and questions  are welcome!

Doug

Jelliott, this will be my first 109 as well. We can learn together.

Tom, that's some fine looking detail in your cockpit.

Greg

Jelliott, this will be my first 109 as well. We can learn together.

Sounds good Greg!  

Your cockpit is looking great panzer.

Heck I have never built a Bf 109 either.  I am back to modeling as well.  Took a 6 year break due to having kids and being involved in RC naval combat.  And before that had a 2-3 years of building armor.  Before that heck it was when I would just glue them together when I was just a kid.  So about 20 years before armor.

Just have to finish my Bf 110 and start on this great GB.

moose  

moose421

Your cockpit is looking great panzer.

Heck I have never built a Bf 109 either.  I am back to modeling as well.  Took a 6 year break due to having kids and being involved in RC naval combat.  And before that had a 2-3 years of building armor.  Before that heck it was when I would just glue them together when I was just a kid.  So about 20 years before armor.

Just have to finish my Bf 110 and start on this great GB.

moose  

I'm really impressed and glad to see that I am not the only one returning to this hobby after such a long hiatus.  I am really enjoying getting back into things and have even started my 9-year old son with kits of his own, trying to see if I can get the younger generation interested in this rather than sitting behind an Xbox all day.

Okay, okay, okay.  I am going to throw my hat into this build as well.  I will enter the build with the 1/32 Revell Bf-109G-6.  Probably going to look to see if I can get my hands on some markings for the Erich Hartman Bf-109G-6.

Greg

Jelliott, this will be my first 109 as well. We can learn together.

My fist 109 too. My first Luftwaffe aircraft, period. Been intimidated by their paint schemes for a while. Time to give it a shot. 

Awesome!!! Looking forward to your build jelliott!! Good 'ol Clemens will get you in the intro bud!! Welcome to the Bf109 GB and congratulations on your first 109 build here.

jelliott523

Okay, okay, okay.  I am going to throw my hat into this build as well.  I will enter the build with the 1/32 Revell Bf-109G-6.  Probably going to look to see if I can get my hands on some markings for the Erich Hartman Bf-109G-6.

Awesome! Yes, this is far better than Xbox. The way I look at it is you've got something to show for the time as well. Hartmann 109 decals are readily available. Eagle editions has a nice set.

Mustang - Thanks for the welcome, the more I read the posts here and the helpful people on this thread. The more excited I got about the build.  Looking forward to jumping in the deep end of the pool on this one!.

Panzer - That is exactly what I think as well.   I've got my son working on a 1/48 Huey Hog right now.  Letting him paint it and put it together.  Using non-toxic glue and acrylics until he can get the hang of using glues.  Excited to see for him to see him complete it.

Here's tonight's work on the Avia.

The office was a little sparse so I added some detail to the instrument panel (left over PE from my P-26 build) and added the belts.

jelliott:Well lets roll with it brutha!! Ask all the questions you want. We got ya covered! 

modelcrazy:Man you're off to a start on that for sure! What schemes are offered for that kit?