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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by Tucohoward on Sunday, January 18, 2015 11:34 AM

Next up is the 75. Found that I hadn't cleaned, or even emptied my airbrush from the 76 last night. No problem with Mr. Color. Just added the 75 to the 76 and it sprayed fine. The scheme I am am doing has winter camo on the left side so only mottled the right.

Jay

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Posted by Tucohoward on Sunday, January 18, 2015 12:47 PM

And on to the 74. Things are going smoothly today.

Jay

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, January 18, 2015 1:17 PM

Great mottling. Can't wait to see other side

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, January 18, 2015 4:34 PM

Jay, very precise freehand airbrushing, that looks wonderful! Great progress, it's amazing to see the model come to life this way!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, January 18, 2015 4:41 PM

That mottling looks amazing indeed, Jay! One sided winter camo? Definitely sounds interesting!

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, January 18, 2015 5:11 PM

Great looking mottling indeed, Jay.

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Posted by Tucohoward on Sunday, January 18, 2015 5:15 PM

Thanks, fellows. I do use masks for the wings typically. I cut them from scrap paper and keep them just off the surface so there is a somewhat soft line. Had some issues with the white, but I think I've got something I can work with. This scheme is for Max-Helmuth Ostermann.

Jay

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, January 18, 2015 5:16 PM

From a few days back......

Raven728

I had planned to finish my current Stuka build before starting this one, but you guys are killing my resolve. Stick out tongue

I'm having the same thoughts.

Doing some catching up, man, there's some great work going on here. My apologies to all for not participating as I should. Perhaps breaking my rule and trying two at once might be in order.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Sunday, January 18, 2015 5:23 PM

Nice progress, Jay!

Greg. Good idea! I have often thought of doing multiple kits at the same time. It would work best if they were similar, or same models. It would save paint too! I suppose the key would be organization.

-Tom

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, January 18, 2015 5:24 PM

Hey Bish... What I'm going to try is what they called "crazy roadmap" camo. This will be a bird from the Balkan Campaign of 1941. She (yellow 4) was part of II/staffel-Jg54. I tried to find a pilot but with my limited library I was un able to put one with her.

This picture was of a 4/staffel unit and mine will have yellow nose, tail fin, and accents on the under wind tips.

Doug 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, January 19, 2015 10:56 AM

panzerpilot

.........I suppose the key would be organization.

If that's the case, I am in deep trouble, Tom. Surprise

Doug, that looks like an ambitious scheme. Looking fwd to watching you pull it off.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 19, 2015 12:02 PM

Rigidrider

Hey Bish... What I'm going to try is what they called "crazy roadmap" camo. This will be a bird from the Balkan Campaign of 1941. She (yellow 4) was part of II/staffel-Jg54. I tried to find a pilot but with my limited library I was un able to put one with her.

This picture was of a 4/staffel unit and mine will have yellow nose, tail fin, and accents on the under wind tips.

Doug 

Now that's nice, not seen that scheme before.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Monday, January 19, 2015 1:09 PM

Greg

panzerpilot

.........I suppose the key would be organization.

If that's the case, I am in deep trouble, Tom. Surprise

Doug, that looks like an ambitious scheme. Looking fwd to watching you pull it off.

I hear ya! It would require a whole bunch of butter containers (for the parts) ! I have a hard enough time keeping things together enough to do one kit at a time! Cool

Nice scheme, Doug. Does the kit include a bomb or are you going AM?

-Tom

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Posted by Tucohoward on Monday, January 19, 2015 1:27 PM

Rigidrider

Hey Bish... What I'm going to try is what they called "crazy roadmap" camo. This will be a bird from the Balkan Campaign of 1941. She (yellow 4) was part of II/staffel-Jg54. I tried to find a pilot but with my limited library I was un able to put one with her.

This picture was of a 4/staffel unit and mine will have yellow nose, tail fin, and accents on the under wind tips.

Doug 

Doug, I have always like that scheme, but have never attempted it. Looking forward to see how you do it.

Jay

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 19, 2015 1:37 PM

panzerpilot

Greg

panzerpilot

.........I suppose the key would be organization.

If that's the case, I am in deep trouble, Tom. Surprise

Doug, that looks like an ambitious scheme. Looking fwd to watching you pull it off.

I hear ya! It would require a whole bunch of butter containers (for the parts) ! I have a hard enough time keeping things together enough to do one kit at a time! Cool

Nice scheme, Doug. Does the kit include a bomb or are you going AM?

I have tried building more than one kit at a tie but I just can't do it. I find it actually slow me down. If I was building a couple of kits in a row that had the same colours it might speed things up, but its not often I do that. I find I end up just concentrating on one build and the others just get a little attention here and there.

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Posted by Greg on Monday, January 19, 2015 1:52 PM

I hear that. I stopped early work on a Mig a year or two ago to start a GB, haven't looked at it since.

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Posted by IamRaider on Monday, January 19, 2015 3:02 PM

I'm finally getting a chance to get started on my Hobbycraft G-2. I'm looking through the build instructions (which aren't the greatest). I have a question since I'm not familiar with the 109. The kit comes with both glass and metal head armor for the canopy. Through what I can find out metal armor is correct for the G-2. Am I correct?

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, January 19, 2015 4:00 PM

Doug:Man ..................2:30 am? You're as bad as me! Your crate is looking great and I looove that "crazy road map" camo scheme!!! Wow!!!

Jay:You're nailin' it dead on with that mottle pattern!!!! Great paint and camo work!!

Iamraieder:Looking forward to the G-2! I'm thinking just metal for that early of a G but there are plenty of folks around here who'll know for sure. I'll do some research when I get home and help you out in case somebody else doesn't beat me to the punch.

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, January 19, 2015 5:49 PM

Thanks Guys... Greg so far so good, but I've a ways to go yet and I'm starting to get bad vibes from the Airbrush... I'm starting to get some blow back into the reservoir and when that happens you usually get a sputter paint. I'll have to tear it apart and investigate the cause.

Hey Tom, No this kit wont be bomb laden, I forget the exact # but I read in one of my books that at least 20% (I think) of all fighter aircraft were ordered to be Fighter bombers not just fighters, at this point 2/Jg54 were all fighters.

Jay, Thank you also, the scheme has always intrigued me as being the coolest camo schemes they employed. As I said above I'm starting to get a bad feeling about my AB and think I might better call and get a repair kit on the way. I've been using this AB for about 5 yrs now (replacing my faithful Paasche ) and it has performed flawlessly with the ability to do a damn near pencil line with the no2 needle, up to about 2.5in with a #5 needle Now I'm having trouble doing a 1/8th line. By the by... LOVE the way your mottling is coming out!

Doug

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Posted by Nathan T on Monday, January 19, 2015 6:13 PM

IamRaider

I'm finally getting a chance to get started on my Hobbycraft G-2. I'm looking through the build instructions (which aren't the greatest). I have a question since I'm not familiar with the 109. The kit comes with both glass and metal head armor for the canopy. Through what I can find out metal armor is correct for the G-2. Am I correct?

yes, metal. 

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, January 19, 2015 6:13 PM

 Tried to post pictures and Internet Exploder decides to F up...

I now have the 74 applied to form the splinter...

And the road mapping is done, in 75...

Like Jay does, I also like to cut my patterns out of a flimsy cardboard, kinda like  index cards or something similar, and hold slightly off the surface to give a softer edge. Nursing the AB along, but ordered a kit already, should be here within a few days. The order taker at the shop wanted to argue in a way, said it was likely due to lacquer use. No... When I ordered Gun I made sure I could shoot whatever, being I do a  helmet or two and tanks and such. I've shot urethane through it without any problem. The guy emailed later to tell me that they did sell that type kit and that it was on the way... Any way, Take care brothers, and thanks for the comments!

Doug

 

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Posted by IamRaider on Monday, January 19, 2015 7:15 PM

Metal it is then. Thanks Mustang and Nathan Beer

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Posted by Tucohoward on Monday, January 19, 2015 8:25 PM

Doug, looking good so far. I like it a lot.

Jay

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Posted by falconmod on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:59 AM

I started painting last night.  I got the white tips and fuselage band on and the 76 painted on the sides and bottom.  I also managed to break off the loop antenna on the spine too, got it glued back on though.

John

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:25 AM

Tucohoward

Thanks, fellows. I do use masks for the wings typically. I cut them from scrap paper and keep them just off the surface so there is a somewhat soft line. Had some issues with the white, but I think I've got something I can work with. This scheme is for Max-Helmuth Ostermann.

Jay

Very interesting scheme - glad to see you've done it "properly" with the over-spray rather than just painting it white, much better results that way.

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:28 AM

Rigidrider

... Greg so far so good, but I've a ways to go yet and I'm starting to get bad vibes from the Airbrush... I'm starting to get some blow back into the reservoir and when that happens you usually get a sputter paint. I'll have to tear it apart and investigate the cause.

Methinks your a/b will need to be in top-notch order to pull that scheme off Doug, so good your are thinking ahead, as per usual, mate.

Remind me which airbrush you are using, Doug? (and needle size, if it is interchangeable. I'm amazed by your 'roadmap'. That was freehand, right? Assuming each of those lines were done in a single pass, I'd have expected more overspray from that relatively wide spray pattern. Looks amazing.

Oh, and what paint are you shooting again?

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:39 AM

Jay, that scheme is really coming together nicely. I'd never seen or heard of a scheme like that, different on the two sides. You appear to be doing a first rate job on it.

John, progressing nicely there my friend. Those loop antennae always seem to present a problem of some sort for me, and never for the same reason. :)

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:10 PM

Thanks Greg... the air brush I use is the Royal Max 140, sold (at least this one) by TCP global, they are IMHO one of the premier paint and supply companys in the country, they sell every thing from stock auto paints to the wildest custom paints on the market. They sell several other lines like Paasche and Iwata,  along with compressors and about anything else you could need.

Yes the "mapping" was done in one pass and like I've said before,  you need to plan out your moves and move with a purpose!  LOL...this time I was using Model Master paint and left it just a tad thicker then I usually might when doing something like this (about 60% thinner to 40% paint) I also cranked up the pressure to about 35psi and got up close (about 1/4 in) and personal and already had the pass planned.

Oh, and I almost exclusively use acrylics. So yes sir I hope that helps and answers some of your questions. Oh, and sometomes a second pass is required to touch up weak areas.

Take care Greg, good to hear from you.

Doug

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:56 PM

Thanks for all the info, Doug.

I was assuming you didn't use acrylic on the lines, and had forgotten you use Acrylics almost exclusively. Embarrassed

Looks like your a/b has a .2mm nozzle, said info also very helpful. I'm surprised about the relatively high pressure that close.

I say again, can I come over sometime for airbrush lessons? Geeked

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 4:08 PM

I'm sorry Greg, I forgot to address that. Yes it at the time was a #2 needle and nozzle. I really wanted to get it down a tad finer but the finer I got the more it would spit and sputter, raising the air pressure made it worse at the time due to it blowing the paint back into the cup. And lowering the pressure caused it to not atomize properly, so alas... I take what I can get at the time. Really, I've found for most all around work the #3 set up is just right.

Greg it would be great to get together air brush in hand, and I think you would be able to show me a thing or two. You do a pretty nice job with your paint work! Well Take care and we'll chat more soon I'm sure... always a pleasure!

Doug

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