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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:33 AM

Awesome F, Jay! Really looking great!

Still struggling to get time, I'm so snowed under with work these days that if I do have a spare hour my head is so done-in I can't commit to touching plastic...

M/TB379

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:24 PM

Allen109
Joe,Jay- If you guys are in Oklahoma,let me know. I always look for ways to improve my skills.

Sorry brother, but I am in MD. Bit of a hike. Obviously this is a great place to learn, and it makes us all neighbors. Patience and practice. I haven't really found a sustitute for either.

Jay

 

 

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:16 PM

Rigidrider
Thanks Jay, This "Med" bird is an Italian based craft and they wore more of the greys, browns and green schemes as opposed to the sand schemes of the North African based birds.

Doug, I have always passed on doing an F Trop scheme due to it's single top color on most of them, but I am always looking for interesting schemes and I really like what you are doing with your F. Not that I don't like the desert war schemes, but I find doing a single color and making it look it interesting is one of the more difficult things to do in painting. I have a Hasegawa F Trop in the stash so I do plan to do one at some point when I figure out a scheme I like. Have lots of decals to pick from.

Jay

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:01 PM

moose421
Wow Jay, your Bf is looking great.

Thanks, Moose! I appreciate that.

Jay

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 7:59 PM

Rigidrider
Joe... I think we need to meet up with Jay and see if he would teach a few AB lessons!

I doubt I could teach you guys anything you don't know, but you are certainly welcome to come by the house anytime.

Jay

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Posted by moose421 on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 7:48 PM

Wow Jay, your Bf is looking great.

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Posted by Allen109 on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 6:56 PM

Joe,Jay- If you guys are in Oklahoma,let me know. I always look for ways to improve my skills.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 5:02 PM

Thanks Jay, This "Med" bird is an Italian based craft and they wore more of the greys, browns and green schemes as opposed to the sand schemes of the North African based birds.

Joe... I think we need to meet up with Jay and see if he would teach a few AB lessons!

Doug

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 4:55 PM

Bish, Yes there is , Just a little stub of a barrel end. And thank you... I saw you write that one time and I've been saying it every since! Thanks for an across the pond diction lesson! lol...

Doug

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 3:51 PM

I'll be looking into  those books Jay!! Your build just gets better every time I look at it. Sorry to hear about the DF loop antenna sizing issue.

                   

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:06 PM

Jay, really enjoying watching your builds, lovely looking build there.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:05 PM

And chuffed you should be Doug, that's looking really good. Is there more barrel to go into those under wing guns.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:57 PM

Been kind of sidetracked reading my JaPo 109K-4 book, finding out all the things I got wrong. Big Smile If JaPo makes a book on anything you are interested in do yourself a favor and get it. Roll Models is the US distributor. Unfortunately the K-4 book is long OOP and very expensive if you can find it. Very happy with the purchase, just wish I had got it while still in print. I have their G-10 Over Czech Territory book as well and it's fantastic also, and still in print. At this point the only change I might make is the landing gear leg color. According to the book they were usually 66 and mine are currently 76. If I decide not to change it I will just count on you guys to make it our secret. I managed to make the DF loop the exact size to make the antenna wire hit it whether I tried to go under it or over it. Drew it down a bit to go under as I found photographic evidence to back that up.

Jay

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:37 PM

Looks great Doug! Never done a Med scheme but you are making me want to.

Jay

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 7:09 AM

Greg... Thank you!

Mike... Me too, like I was saying, I tend to get in a zone at this time and forget to stop to take pics, but I think I've recorded enough this time.

Joe... That sir would be my pleasure, and I'm sure you can help me out on some issues I need help with.

Thanks again guys...

Doug

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, May 11, 2015 9:18 PM

Looking very good, Doug! That is SWEET! I love a model as she passes through this stage!

M/TB379

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, May 11, 2015 7:44 PM

That paint is beautiful. I swear I'm going to meet you in person one of these days and when I do you'd better have your AB stuff with you so you can give lessons!!!

                   

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Posted by Greg on Monday, May 11, 2015 6:46 PM

That surely is a purdy paint job, Doug.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, May 11, 2015 6:35 PM

Thanks Guys... Yup, shes moving along now... But I still find myself taking longer to detail and weather then the actual build took. I guess that's normal though. I got this done yesterday but the &%@# internet was so Efed up yesterday it would have taken all day to post... Soooo here they are now...

 I'm going with the Mediterranean 81/82 scheme. That will be the Brown/Violet and Medium Green. I kind of forgot that doing a camo like this over pre-shading was going to be a bit more difficult but I think it will come out OK.

The underside pale grey will also come part way up the sides...

OK, got the Green on...

  And the Med Campaign band and clear coat.

Well like Bish might say, I'm pretty chuffed with it! So far so good, I think I may have been able to have gotten away with using 79 sand gelb instead of the 81, but the scheme did call for 81. It darkened considerably with the clear coat But I think after the decals are applied, I should be able to fade it some and lighten it up a bit. Any way... Soon as this sets for a day or so... DECALS!!! (yay) Take care all!

Doug 

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Posted by Tucohoward on Monday, May 11, 2015 8:09 AM

Doug, you are really rolling along! Looks great so far.

Jay

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, May 9, 2015 6:45 PM

Oh yeah!!!! Nice work!! Yes I wished I could build only half as fast as you do with the great results. It's probably a good thing I'm a slow poke because I'd run out of display space.Stick out tongue

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, May 9, 2015 6:27 PM

Thanks guys, glad to try and help... I've in the past also taken a wire gauge (micro bit) and chucked it in a pin vise to where only the very nub of the end protruded and pressed it to the piece and gave it a twist. it made a great looking rivet but took FOREVER to insure a straight line and an even placement. I prefer the pounce wheels... lol...

Well heres a bit more, I've got the pre-shading done and have some of the color coat on. Sorry but at this point I tend to get ahead of my self and at times forget to take pictures.

That's about it for today. Tomorrow I hope to have the RLM 81(Brown Violet) and 82 (Dark Green) applied. Have a good evening all!

Doug

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, May 9, 2015 4:54 PM

Thanks for the info on those tools Doug. Those are next on my "to get" list.

                   

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Posted by panzerpilot on Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:53 PM

Thanks for the info, Doug. Those do look very handy. I didn't know they made so many different sizes either. I'll have to look into that. They certainly do add a nice touch.

I know some guys use that DYMO embossing label tape (the old time click label maker tape) to do help with panel lines. I wonder if that would help with the rivets? Though yeah, curves and bends would be hard.

-Tom

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Posted by Tucohoward on Saturday, May 9, 2015 9:26 AM

Lots of great work guys! Things are really getting going again. Clemens, I really hope things turn in the right direction for you soon.

Jay

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, May 9, 2015 7:46 AM

Here are the tools I bought. They were sourced from Amazon.com and there were other options available. When the package arrived They added a web site and phone # . Not sure if that's for the Excel (Mfg.) or the store they came from. They were just shy of 15bucks, and as I mentioned , other types and quantities were shown. I just chose this set because it looked like it would cover about any of my needs. These tools are actually used to transfer patterns to plastic, wood and such for cutting without having to draw the shape on the material to be cut.

Hope this will help!

Doug 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, May 9, 2015 7:21 AM

Panzer... Your 109 looks great! I'm a big fan of the "Es" and its variants. And in general the 109 period. I mean, you have at least 33,000 give or take different 109s to choose from when modeling one, and on the Axis side one of the meanest looking (and deadliest) in the arsenal. Looking forward to the finish and the dio.

The rivets were about 50/50, there were many already on the kit to begin with, but sadly lacking in some areas. I ran across a good buy on a 3 piece set of EXCELL brand pounce wheel tools which do an amazing job as a rivet making tool, Please forgive though, some of the uneven lines are my fault not the tool. I'm still trying to figure out a good way to hold the part being marked while being accurate with the tool.

Using tape to create a good straight line works well but trying to hold part while riveting on a curved surface is difficult at best. I'm still trying though...

Thanks all, I got a lot of the pre-shading done last night and will start the finish coat colors today, should have pics tonight Good Lord willing. Take care all!

Doug

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Posted by panzerpilot on Friday, May 8, 2015 8:36 PM

Thanks Moose and 'Stang.

Alclad Duraluminum. Seems they had to field replace that panel.

-Tom

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Posted by moose421 on Friday, May 8, 2015 8:30 PM

Clemens   You are in my family's prayers.  Hope you make it though ok.  We are a large dysfunctional family that is here for you.

Tom  Love the natural metal panels.  She is looking real good.

Jelli  Your bird is looking great.

Keep up the great guys, you are inspiring me to get back on the bench.

moose

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, May 8, 2015 8:29 PM

Doug: Well he's got the Tyson chicken legs down!!! That gear looks great Doug!!!! Yes

 panzerpilot: That build looks great man!!! Good to see the progress!!! Is that bare metal right in front of the windscreen?

                   

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