HELICOPTERS - Mi-24 Hind Group build

my kit is a hobbycraft 1/72 kit.

t3488g, what make is it???

And which scale??


I had alot of trouble applying the PE parts to mine, so don't be discouraged, it's just one of those things.

The hardest part, the missile racks on the outer wings.

Folding all the little PE parts sent me round the twist, cause every time I tried to CA bits onto each other, I would end up bending other parts.

Nearly had me in tears.
Thankfully my hair is already going grey, so my stress level never shows!!!!!

the glue dried, so here is the pic of the hind ready to leave the factory (canopy not installed)



so i moved it onto my train set to take some pics of it on "grass" went to put the canopy on, poor fit so as i was trying to get it on for a pic one of the parst fell off the bottom i hate this model, wouldn't recommend it to anyone.



sigh
not sure if it deserves a dio now

Can't wait!!!!

i finished painting (i think........) and patched the cracks with wite wout, painted again, reglued the rotor, so when the glue dries it should be done and i will post some pics.

Higg,
Thanks for the heads-up on the door seals - I missed those in my references. The 24-V I am doing also has some alterations to be made to the steps (ie the lower portion of the cabin doors). The more you look at references, the more changes you find from one aircraft to another. It's a question of finding as much as you can on the particular machine you want to build and then going for it!
As for the cockpit on the 24-V, there is so much work to be done simply because with those big windows, you can see all of it! There are times when it is tempting to cover the whole of the glazing in a tarpaulin!!!
Still, this Trumpeter model does justify all the work. And then, there will have to be a couple of modified figures to go on the diorama base......

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1 Thanks for your comments guys. Wish I knew why I thought cut off was 1st June. Would've done a better job, more attention to detail. Oh well.

hey, it's not bad, it's better than mine![:0] once i paint it it will be almost done.... also: was it hagasa's or airfix's kit that had the pilots and troops? i found an airfix hind A in my lhs

Thanks for your comments guys.
Wish I knew why I thought cut off was 1st June. Would've done a better job, more attention to detail.
Oh well.

As soon as there is a solid finish date, I'll be able to work out whether I have the time to build another, hopefully an A, but possibly something later.
Now to get back to the 5 others I have cramping my workbench at the moment.

Hi everyone, I have been sitting here silently reading posts for a while now but thought I would jump in here with a couple of observations from one who has been lucky enough to have been inside both the A and D models on the same day... Obviously there are enormous differences in the cockpit areas of the two models, but the good news is that the troop cabins are virtually indentical, the only difference I recall is the fitting of metal (possibly some form of armour) plates below the windows on the inside of the cabin sides these had cutouts to allow the stowage of the rifle braces I will try to find some pics and post them.
otherwise structural details are the same between A and D variants.
BTW some very nice work being done here.

Azie

A few comments!

Color me impressed tweety,
If you're going to hit the Hind A again, I got links to most pics you need and have already linked most all available cockpit shots in earlier posts. Can link you to Azie's one-stop-shop for most external Hind A pics (he's building a 1/24 Hind A scratch-build; no pics, yet).
http://www.umineko-aus.com/airplanes.htm

Colin, again, I salute you for your mad schemes for the troop cabin. Only thing I think I could add would be the black rubber tubing that is installed all the way around each section of the troop cabin doors. They inflate and form a seal when the doors are closed in order to pressurize the cabin from bio/chem agents. I'm sure strip styrene .040" rod should do the trick in about 10 minutes.
I don't really have alot of Hind A cabin pics, so I'm tottering over the cabin detail option.

Thanks for your comments.
Now, let's get back to work!

"Just a spoonful of Tenax-7R helps the medicine go down, the medicine go down, the medicine . . ."

tweety1 Nice job! You win the prize for finishing first!
You joined only ten days ago! Man that's fast building!

The more I read your posts the more I want to re-open my Hind,Colin Russell. Sounds interesting to make all of this scratch building ... but no I said I'm gonna make this OOB!

No new pics since it's taking a lot of time sanding and puttying the helicopter after I've glued the two halves together. I hope to have her ready for painting this weekend.

Higg
Thanks for the comments. I missed one from the rear cabin checklist. In the 24-V there are two very prominent yellow fuel pipes running from the floor to the roof. One is located in the rear corner beside the anti-freeze container and piping and the other is at the front, running from the floor up the left side of the opening of the passageway. This latter one stops short of the cabin roof, bends 'forwards' and then goes up into the roof space just inside the passageway.
If you do choose to open the troop doors, you will also have to put some kind of detail in the spaces at each side of the passageway, because if you look in the model's open doors, you can see the spaces!! (Darn it!) The right side is filled with racks of electrical equipment (with wire pull-out handles on each). The other side has wiring, a triangular-shaped panel and various bits and pieces in it.
As I type this, maybe you were right to leave the doors shut.......
Unfortunately I do not have a digital camera, but I will try to persuade a friend who does to take some shots. Hope this helps.

Great work, Tweety!

lookin gewd tweety!

Ok, for some reason I thought the finish date was June 1st, so I got stuck into my 1/72 Hind A.

And now, 1 week later I'm finished.

Nothing flash, but the quickest build I've ever done.
Pity about the port side window, would have been nice to include it to be alot more accurate,bad OOB.





Now I'm done, might actually have time to make another.

Can someone steer me in the direction of some decent referance pics??

T3488g's hind is nearing completion!!! after a coat of paint it will be rolled out of the factory. still haven't gotten those pilots or troops, so the cockpit will not be attached for a while.

Ah hell, Colin

If you post a pic after your troop cabin detailing is done, it might just inspire me to "cowboy up" and not close the doors. Great checklist you posted.

Tenax-7R: it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Higg

Higg,
That's a great conversion you've started there. Great pics. Personally, having seen the pics, I would have thought that the work necessary 'down the back' would have been quite straightforward, but you say that you are closing the doors.
For those tackling the 24-V, the Trumpeter kit needs the following added in the troop area in the back - 1. prominent hinges/springs where the seat base meets the back (so that they can be folded up when not in use), and the seatbelts for the seats 2. ''ball' type air vents in the trunking along each side of the roof 3. gun clamps under the windows and the opening levers for the windows 4. scribe the floor panels and add 'rivet' lines in them 5. add the prominent plumbing for the de-frost system beside the 'L' shaped container on the rearmost cabin wall 6. saw off and build up the electrical box on the other side of the rearmost cabin wall and add the wiring 7. add the prominent bulkheads to both sides of the rear cabin and add all the little electrical boxes and wiring associated with them 8. replace one of the door actuating bars/hinges with cable (only one side of the troop doors has those big hinges/bars).
It sounds a lot, but once you get started, it should only take a few hours of scratchbuilding.
Hope these comments are of value.

Group Builders working on Hind A's. An astute observation by a fellow Hind modeler named Azie has clued me to something I have never noticed EVER in over 10 years of admiration for the MI-24 Hind A (I've never had the chance to see the Hind A in the flesh; but seen and done maintenance on the Hind D and F plenty of times :( . . . oh freakin well).
Anyway, there is a very small window on the port side, almost directly above the pilot. It is clearly evident on any pic of the Hind B (non-production aircraft), but is impossible to see on almost every photograph published in print or on the web, unless you've actually sat in the Hind A at Monino or elsewhere (as Azie has).
So, add it to your list of things to fix on the Airfix, Hasegawa, etc. Hind A kits. I'll be getting out the dremel and installing one on my 1:35 scratch-build. Not trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill, but it's one of those things that makes all the effort another 100% accurate.
By the way, Azzie is building a 1/24 scratch-build of a Hind A and a MIG-25 Foxbat out of wood. I'll link his website after I clear it with him first. I'm really looking forward to a seeing and watching this 1/24 scale Hind roll out! Hoot!

Also, here's my link to some real QS-55 Hind Army VISMOD pics somebody asked for. These were eventually all destroyed in Stinger missile testings over White Sands Missile range after they made them remotely piloted, of course!)
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/QS-55%20Hind%20Army%20VISMOD/


Tenax-7R Rocks!

Higg


bigger pic here: http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Scale%20Model%20Pics/Status%20Heli-Kit%20Pics/Small%20Port%20Side%20Window%20Above%20Pilot.JPG

yeah, they called it that too.

Krokodil = crocodile

the russians actual called the hind the crocodile, nato called the hind, the russians don't like that name, so they call it the crocodile. can't remember where i heard this information.

gorbach= "hunchback"

Sov pilots loving term of endearment for the Hind.

Tenex 7R or Death!

Higg

excuse me . . . my Russian is a little rusty, but what's "Gorbach" translated into?

Colin,
I absolutely agree with your assessment. Lots of time on this one. I'm making some tough calls as far as how deep I'm going to go. My Hind A cockpit is plenty of scratch-building to keep me occupied. To complete this in a reasonable amount of time, I'm closing my troop cabin doors. Yes, that's right. So, problem solved on that one. But I'm not pussing out on the rest, particularly since the Hind A canopy is just a big fish bowl and the cockpit has got to be done to detail.

Anyway, group "Gorbach" builders, here's some more progress pics and links to some of my current pics. Yeah, it doesn't look like I made any progress since the last post, but if you look close, you can tell. She looks like hell, with sanded off primer, putty all over the cockpit ready for sanding, no final paint anywhere, and is just plain beat up. But, I'm an honest-johnny kind-of-guy, and thought you'd appreciate her in the raw.

Higg



more pics, linked:
bigger version of the above pic
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Scale%20Model%20Pics/Status%2005.24.04/Mother%20of%20All%20Montages.jpg

my gunners sight assembly (in progress)
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Scale%20Model%20Pics/Status%2005.24.04/Gunner's%20Sight%20Assembly.JPG

my gunners locking bar clamp (in progress)
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Scale%20Model%20Pics/Status%2005.24.04/Gunners%20locking%20bar%20clamp.JPG

I am in the middle of the 1/35 Hind 24-V myself. The kit parts are good and the finished model will look fabulous. But be aware, guys, although this is a great kit, there is a great deal of work to be done. Many things are wrong or simply missing from the kit and much scratchbuilding will be necessary. Built from the box it will be good, but serious modelling will be necessary to make it great. If you have any questions, I'll give answers where I can. Best of luck.

Ohhhhh, 2 weeks eh, hmmmm.

I can do that.

Just gotta push the Corsair, C119 and H6M5 aside.
Gonna be cramped on the bench, so if the Hind winds with Corsair bits on it...............