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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:34 PM
Bish, my Spit is turning out terrible. The decals are just not setting right and I'm frankly not happy with the build on a whole. I'll finish it and probably give it to the grandsons to hang from their celling. When I'm done, I'll get some standoff pics but I'll be looking for something else to build for the GB. Maybe a Tornado. I like those.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 AM

Steve, thats a shame about the Spit, one of those you just wnat to get over with from the sounds of it.

Now a Tonka would be great to have.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:34 AM

Nice job on those bombs check. Not to sure about the colour of those racks. The lanc was built afer we had switched to night bombing. I guess it might depend when the aircraft your doing was built, and if it was an early one, would they have re-painted the bomb bays when the underside was painted black.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:37 AM

Gamera

Toshi: Oh wow steak and an Iwata- you can't beat that by much!!!!!

CMK02: Wow, I too am flabbergasted by those perfect rings. I've got to remember the toothpick trick!

 

BTW: I'm still bumming around on the cockpit here but here's a photo of the kit box just to show what I am working oh so slowly on...

 

Looking forqard to some pics of this G.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:26 AM

Bish

Nice job on those bombs check. Not to sure about the colour of those racks. The lanc was built afer we had switched to night bombing. I guess it might depend when the aircraft your doing was built, and if it was an early one, would they have re-painted the bomb bays when the underside was painted black.

 

When I was researching for my Tamiya Lancaster I found photos of the bomb bay (always black) with the bomb holders installed but with no bombs, and the holders for the GP and HE bombs were a highly contrasting color.  The carriers for the fragmentation bombs were bare aluminum.
Here's an example, although it is a a restored example.
 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Andrew_Mynarski_Memorial_Lancaster_bomb_bay_Flickr_4839555945.jpg
 
I don't know the time frame for this photo.
 
http://www.lancaster-archive.com/pic-lanc-bombbay.jpg

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:34 AM

Checkmate:  those bombs look great!  Those stripes.....if I were to try that, even with a mask of sorts,  it would end up looking like Micheal J Fox had a hand in it!  Lol....I know, I know...

 

Toshi, you will LOVE that airbrush, I actually have two!  (Don't be jealous, I worked as a painter in one of my bodyshop jobs, and I dabbled in custom paint.)  Although, I suspect that you will actually need at least an Iwata LPH400 to paint that Mossie!

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:49 AM
Hmm a Tonka huh. I've got a few in the stash. Maybe after the Harrier I'll join you Steve with one of my own

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:04 AM

Yeah, I'll have to look for one (I have an Italian version). I check while I'm at Eagle Quest next month. The only RAF bird in the stash was the Spit.

I've been keen on the Tonka lately.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:07 AM

I am by no means done with the GB BTW. I just might find more.

Steve

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:24 AM

Toshi, hope you enjoy you HP-CS as much as I have mine. My Harder & Steenbeck became my most used a/b for a year or so, but for whatever reason I tend to grab the Iwata more often lately.

I like Outback, the ribeye is my usual choice too. Eats

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:26 AM

checkmateking02
The trick is the toothpick. With a damp end point, you can dissolve away the uneven parts.

That is a very good tip (unintended pun) indeed. Thanks, CMK.

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:39 AM

Gamera, what scale is that Eduard Tempest? I didn't see it when I was looking at Eduard Hawkers.

Chris, great job and a great idea thinning those bomb fins. Don't even have to see a 'before' pic to know it was a huge improvement. Great thing about GB's when somebody gets an idea from somebody else, implements and shows it.

Steve, you have my empathy re the Spitfire. Get 'er done and move on, just like you said, is the right move. Been there, no fun. At least you have the ooomph to finish it. Good for you. And good to hear you are keen to find something else to build for this GB, I was hoping...

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:40 AM

modelcrazy

Yeah, I'll have to look for one (I have an Italian version). I check while I'm at Eagle Quest next month. The only RAF bird in the stash was the Spit.

I've been keen on the Tonka lately.

 

I am not sure on the differances between the differant nations aircraft, but i think the Italian version would be close to the RAF's GR.1. I have been looking for some good Tornado kits as well, would not mind a GR.1, 4 and F3 myself.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:57 AM

Bish
I am not sure on the differances between the differant nations aircraft, but i think the Italian version would be close to the RAF's GR.1.

The only diffrence I'm aware of is the electronic pods under the nose. I'll keep checking but it's probably easer to just find a new kit than to modify the Italian one and get new decals. Funny thing is Hase has an RAF version with diffrent nose pods and the Italian decals in the kit.

The Hase kit I have with only the Italian version and madkings.

The Hase kit with diffrent pods and the same markings as above as well as RAF.

Same kit.....

Steve

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:24 AM

Gamera

Toshi: Oh wow steak and an Iwata- you can't beat that by much!!!!!

CMK02: Wow, I too am flabbergasted by those perfect rings. I've got to remember the toothpick trick!

 

BTW: I'm still bumming around on the cockpit here but here's a photo of the kit box just to show what I am working oh so slowly on...

 

LOL!  Thank you!

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:26 AM

Beautiful work.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:28 AM

Justinryan215

Checkmate:  those bombs look great!  Those stripes.....if I were to try that, even with a mask of sorts,  it would end up looking like Micheal J Fox had a hand in it!  Lol....I know, I know...

 

Toshi, you will LOVE that airbrush, I actually have two!  (Don't be jealous, I worked as a painter in one of my bodyshop jobs, and I dabbled in custom paint.)  Although, I suspect that you will actually need at least an Iwata LPH400 to paint that Mossie!

 

LOL!  LOL!  Yes, I will need the LPH400 to paint the Mosquito!

Toshi

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:30 AM

modelcrazy

 

 
Bish
I am not sure on the differances between the differant nations aircraft, but i think the Italian version would be close to the RAF's GR.1.

 

The only diffrence I'm aware of is the electronic pods under the nose. I'll keep checking but it's probably easer to just find a new kit than to modify the Italian one and get new decals. Funny thing is Hase has an RAF version with diffrent nose pods and the Italian decals in the kit.

The Hase kit I have with only the Italian version and madkings.

The Hase kit with diffrent pods and the same markings as above as well as RAF.

Same kit.....

 

Ye, they will quite often just change decals so the box will include the parts for the differant versions. So does that kit with the Italian markings include the nose and weapons for the F3.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:25 AM

Yeah, I'll peak into it tonight to see what's in there (never broke the seal). If the parts are there I would just need to get the decals. I'm not really keen on the decals that come in the No111 Squardon box anyway. There our 2 Italian, 1 German and 1 RAF options.

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:12 PM

Greg: My Tempest is 1/48th scale. I don't think it's still in production. I picked this one up at a local IPMS show probably about ten-fifteen years ago. And the box looked like a dog had chewed on it then so it's probably at least a twenty- twenty-five year old kit. You might check any local shows or Ebay, otherwise I'm not sure where you could find one. 

It's an ok kit, the detail is crisp but pretty Spartan. One reason I've been fumbling around with the cockpit is there's not much detail there and I'm trying to add some wires and stuff so it looks a little more 'busy' like the photos I have of the real deal. 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:18 PM

jeaton01

 

 
Bish

Nice job on those bombs check. Not to sure about the colour of those racks. The lanc was built afer we had switched to night bombing. I guess it might depend when the aircraft your doing was built, and if it was an early one, would they have re-painted the bomb bays when the underside was painted black.

 

 

When I was researching for my Tamiya Lancaster I found photos of the bomb bay (always black) with the bomb holders installed but with no bombs, and the holders for the GP and HE bombs were a highly contrasting color.  The carriers for the fragmentation bombs were bare aluminum.
Here's an example, although it is a a restored example.
 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Andrew_Mynarski_Memorial_Lancaster_bomb_bay_Flickr_4839555945.jpg
 
I don't know the time frame for this photo.
 
http://www.lancaster-archive.com/pic-lanc-bombbay.jpg
 

Thanks for the photos, jeaton.  That's probably what Airfix was trying to duplicate.  The kit instructions have the bomb bay indeed painted black, but the bomb racks are designated in silver.

Might it be there was a concern that paint might obstruct the moving parts of the apparatus?

And thanks to everyone who commented so positively on the red bomb stripes.  Sometimes I have more luck than brains.

Dunce

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:50 PM

I'm calling the Beaufighter done. This was a pleasent kit to build with no real issues, great fit and zero flash. Aside from being black plastic I have no issue with this one whatsoever.

Once I had it painted I felt it was just too even toned, so I dusted it up with pastels and softened the black some more but felt it was still not right. SO, I went about chipping it up a bit and that really helped break up the all black scheme. I think this plane would look tons better in a D-day sheme honestly, the black just doesn't do it justice, but it's night fighter and black is black.

I didn't have much to post on this build as it goes together very quickly and very easily and doesn't really have anything to show along the way. If you like twin engine fighters I recommend you add this one to the stash, it's a very good kit.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:35 PM

Nice work, Brandon--on both assembly and finish.  I like the subtle variations in the black paintwork.  Well done!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:33 PM

Gamera, thanks for the info on the Tempest. The box looks nothing like a contemporary Eduard box so I'd wondered if it was an out of production kit.

Brandon, your Beaufighter looks great. I like the copper-colored details on the nacelles and how it contrasts with the black.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:07 PM

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:09 PM

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:10 PM

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:50 PM

Brandon, excellent work with the Beaufighter.  Yes

I think one of the interesting aspects of an all black scheme is it really lets one view the characteristic lines of an aircraft.

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copper -  perhaps an Airfix (of old?) fault that has perpetuated through time, but maybe that is the closest colour they have in their range for burnt iron?

regards,

Jack

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:51 PM

That's really an amazing kit and work Toshi.

Well here are some pics of the Spitfire. You can tell the lack of detail on the skin and the wrinkled wing roundels. "Ask me why I'm not happy Bob. not happy" fromThe Incredibles.

The cockpit looks nice

 

I'll probably finish it up tomorrow without weathering and present it to the grandkids this weekend.

However, I have decided to build the Tonka. Looking through the Italian Tornado there are a few parts that aren’t used and some that are cut off, but used on the RAF version. I just need to get some decals for it.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:55 PM

Sweet looking Beau BK Yes

Steve

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