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Pride of the Luftwaffe GB

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:22 PM

My next entry after the 109E-3 above is this 109E-7, in Japanese markings. It will be a crossover with the Japanese GB VI

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by B-1 CrewCheif on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:11 PM

Got started on the cockpit and engine assembly. The color call out for the interior is RLM02 but ive looked up what interior colors before and per the manual for German aircraft of the period, everything xisible through the glass is painted Grey so i usd vallejo German Grey as the interior color, all other structeral parts are painted with MRP RLM02.

The engine built up very quickply and is very nicely detailed, i painted it with flat black and then used vallejo dark steel pigments. I then detailed painted the bolt heads, ignition wires, and other smaller parts.

Finally i added the kit PE seat belts. The PE is a bit stiff so it makes it difficult to bend. but i was able to get them on there and i think they look very good.

On the Bench: 1:32 Roden Stearman, 1:35 Orochi M3A3 Bradley, 1:6 Mandalorian figure

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:55 PM

Wow, with the engine that close, it’s a wonder pilots didn’t fry!  Surprise

Looks great so far.

Chad

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At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:08 PM

B-1 very nice indeed!

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Posted by B-1 CrewCheif on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:49 PM

Mopar Madness

Wow, with the engine that close, it’s a wonder pilots didn’t fry!  Surprise

Looks great so far.

 

Thank you, and yes everything is very close, but trust me, sitting in one of those is like sitting in a casket. You wear that aircraft.

On the Bench: 1:32 Roden Stearman, 1:35 Orochi M3A3 Bradley, 1:6 Mandalorian figure

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Posted by DiscoStu on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:57 PM

Started work on my 109.  Pics aren’t great but I’m happy with the progress.

 

  Untitled by Stu George, on Flickr

 Untitled by Stu George, on Flickr

"Ahh the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals of the History Channel" -Homer Simpson

  

 

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Posted by B-1 CrewCheif on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:08 PM

I made a bit more quick progress on the 109. Test fitted fuselage halves which fit tight but good. The engine needs a little repositioning to be center but thats not too hard to do. i also glued the wing halves together. The kit has you build the full guns that go in the wings to be viewed by a glass pannel under the wing but since i have no intrest i just built the gun assembly and thats all. The wings are simple, just two halves and a panel that goes over the gun barrel and everything fits up pretty well. After all that was done i test fitted the wing section to fuselage section. Whts interesting is that they include a fuel tank for the wing section which cant be seen at all. Although neither can half the radios you build for it. 

Also when installing the nose cowel there is a bit of trick to getting the gun barrels through the holes, but once you figure it out its super easy.

But still, im loving this kit and how fast it coming together.

On the Bench: 1:32 Roden Stearman, 1:35 Orochi M3A3 Bradley, 1:6 Mandalorian figure

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Posted by rooster513 on Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:37 AM

Cockpit, engine and fuselage construction is looke great B-1! Looks like it coming together pretty quickly for youYes

-Andy

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:53 AM

Nice work there B-1.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Thursday, October 26, 2017 8:24 AM

Looks great so far!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:06 AM

B-1, that is definatly looking great. Even without the fuselage you can tell its a 109. I may have to pick one of these up since you like it so much.

BK

On the bench:

Tamiya 1/35 M4A3E8 "Fury" with crew,

1/32 Kittyhawk Kingfisher,

1/35 Meng Panther Ausf A Early,

1/48 Pro Modeller P-51C "Boise Bee"

2022 Completed:

1/25 Revell 29 Highboy

1/48 Tamiya Sea Harrier

1/25 Revell 70 Boss 429 Mustang

1/48 Hasegawa D3A1 Type 99 Val

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:46 PM

blackdog62

brandon my kit has 2 versions 1 condor and 1 pre war. im going to go with the pre war just because i have never did a pre war with the red band on the tail. i will be useing all model master primer and paints im used to them and they work for me i also will be mixing the colors to scale with white with a little blue in it. im glad you threw up the RLM 02 color i forgot about that and probabley used RLM66. your pit looks great by the way.

i did a little research on the condor color and according to my schamatic book by kagero the condor 109s was deliverd in all natural metal. but my instructions in my airfix 109e-1 says a color close to RLM63. i have read in the past that they where all metal treated with a typ of acid wash that dulled the metal and protected it from the elaments ? 2017-10-19_04-44-40 by Jerry Richards, on Flickr 2017-10-19_04-50-19 by Jerry Richards, on Flickr

 

Thanks - I didn't realize they had used natural metal finishes in the Spanish Civil War. Looks like there was a mix of those and, most likely, RLM 63, a light gray over RLM 65 Hellblau.

This one clearly has two colors in addition to the black around the exhaust path.

And the shine on this one indicates bare metal.

And then there's this guy, which looks like a green (RLM 62 over RLM 65 I am guessing. The contrast between top and bottom of the fuselage is much starker than on the first pic above).

In any case, I'm going to go with the RLM 63 over RLM 65 scheme on mine, since that's what Eduard suggests for my markings, and I picked up a bottle of RLM 63 the other day.

Thanks for the answer - I had only seen them in RLM 63 before and didn't realize there was more variation.

-BD-

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:57 PM

Blackdog:

I also found a few small images of your plane. Seems like if you're not happy with the result, you've got a display option...

And here's one of mine.

-BD-

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:02 PM

Speaking of mine, I got some work done on it. I finished the cockpit and got the main assembly done last night.

I'm going to keep the rudder off and just paint the markings rather than dealing with the decals, and I'm considering painting the side markings with masks made with my sweet new Thinnerline circle cutter. 

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UntitledThe only thing I need to do before adding the cowl is mount the engine. The engine mount is the one place this kit really falls down on. With it all buttoned up, there doesn't seem to be room to use the actual mounts, and that leaves it just sitting without positive locating points inside the nose, which is problematic, given that's how the prop and exhausts mount.

I've built one of these with the cowl off, and it was fine, and I managed to add the exhaust at the end of the build, so I'm hoping to do that here, too, so I don't have to mask them. I'll probably stick the prop on it and use that to line it up inside, then super glue it wherever it touches inside, because the last thing I want is to go to add the prop at the end of the build, push it onto the nose, and break the attachment points so I'm left without a prop shaft and a rattling engine.

-BD-

 

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Posted by B-1 CrewCheif on Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:32 PM

BrandonK

B-1, that is definatly looking great. Even without the fuselage you can tell its a 109. I may have to pick one of these up since you like it so much.

BK

 

Yeah i definately recomend these kits especially for how cheap you can find them.

On the Bench: 1:32 Roden Stearman, 1:35 Orochi M3A3 Bradley, 1:6 Mandalorian figure

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Posted by rooster513 on Friday, October 27, 2017 7:17 AM

BD that cockpit is looking very nice!

-Andy

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Posted by B-1 CrewCheif on Friday, October 27, 2017 5:33 PM

Im really surprised with how fast this kit is moving for me. Im now in the painting stage of the build and I have all the main colors painted. The Paint i used was MRP RLM 65, 02, and 71. I used the black basing technique and MRP is probably the best paint i have ever used for it. Next will be painting the mottling on the sides. I was trying to get some pictures showing the black bleeding through the Grey and the Grey bleeding through the Green but i dont know if my pictures show that too well.

On the Bench: 1:32 Roden Stearman, 1:35 Orochi M3A3 Bradley, 1:6 Mandalorian figure

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, October 27, 2017 8:17 PM

That splinter camo looks good B-1.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Friday, October 27, 2017 8:57 PM

For real.  That splinter camo looks really nice!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Friday, October 27, 2017 8:59 PM

BrandonD

Speaking of mine, I got some work done on it. I finished the cockpit and got the main assembly done last night.

I'm going to keep the rudder off and just paint the markings rather than dealing with the decals, and I'm considering painting the side markings with masks made with my sweet new Thinnerline circle cutter. 

Untitled

 

 

UntitledThe only thing I need to do before adding the cowl is mount the engine. The engine mount is the one place this kit really falls down on. With it all buttoned up, there doesn't seem to be room to use the actual mounts, and that leaves it just sitting without positive locating points inside the nose, which is problematic, given that's how the prop and exhausts mount.

I've built one of these with the cowl off, and it was fine, and I managed to add the exhaust at the end of the build, so I'm hoping to do that here, too, so I don't have to mask them. I'll probably stick the prop on it and use that to line it up inside, then super glue it wherever it touches inside, because the last thing I want is to go to add the prop at the end of the build, push it onto the nose, and break the attachment points so I'm left without a prop shaft and a rattling engine.

-BD-

 

 

 

Nice progress on that 109.  The belts look great!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by Hunter on Friday, October 27, 2017 9:47 PM

B-1,

Great work on the paint,the pit and the engine... also the masking. It really looks sharp

BrandonD,

Beautiful job on the pit...she is coming along very nicely

Hunter 

      

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, October 28, 2017 5:59 PM

B-1, you can see the basing in the close up shots and it looks great. Even though that technique takes more time I think it is well worth it. Excellent.

 

BrandonD, looking great thus far. Super work.

BK

On the bench:

Tamiya 1/35 M4A3E8 "Fury" with crew,

1/32 Kittyhawk Kingfisher,

1/35 Meng Panther Ausf A Early,

1/48 Pro Modeller P-51C "Boise Bee"

2022 Completed:

1/25 Revell 29 Highboy

1/48 Tamiya Sea Harrier

1/25 Revell 70 Boss 429 Mustang

1/48 Hasegawa D3A1 Type 99 Val

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, October 30, 2017 6:34 AM

Love the splinter camo B-1!

-Andy

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Posted by B-1 CrewCheif on Monday, October 30, 2017 8:25 PM

rooster513

Love the splinter camo B-1!

 

Thank you all for the comments on my paint work, yes the process takes a long time but its well worth it with the finishing effect. Plus the MRP paint makes it so much easier. If you havent tried MRP yet, get it, its worth it

Anyway, after giving it a lot of thought and doing a lot of research i painted the Mottling on the sides. I think i got it right. What do you guys think?

Next, decals

 

On the Bench: 1:32 Roden Stearman, 1:35 Orochi M3A3 Bradley, 1:6 Mandalorian figure

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Monday, October 30, 2017 9:08 PM

I really think it looks great!  Very nice application.  

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by Pinkbooger on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 8:50 AM

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Well I haven't been able to get much done on this. I am hoping to get an airbrush system in the near future to use on this. If I don't I will be brush painting it. My question is: What color should I use? I get my paints from Hobby Lobby. I am thinking of going with whats on the box or at least similar to it. Any ideas? Really not sure what colors to use!!

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Posted by DiscoStu on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:21 AM

B-1 CrewCheif

 

 

 

 

Thank you all for the comments on my paint work, yes the process takes a long time but its well worth it with the finishing effect. Plus the MRP paint makes it so much easier. If you havent tried MRP yet, get it, its worth it

 

I just discovered MRP while trying to find the right camoflage gray for an F-35, apparently they make the right color as well as a Have Glass finish.  I'm looking forward to trying it.  Any tips on how to spray it?  I typically use Tamiya Lacquer thinner and Tamiya and Mr. Color paints.  Not sure how to approach the MRP.

"Ahh the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals of the History Channel" -Homer Simpson

  

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:35 AM

DiscoStu

 

 
B-1 CrewCheif

 

 

 

 

Thank you all for the comments on my paint work, yes the process takes a long time but its well worth it with the finishing effect. Plus the MRP paint makes it so much easier. If you havent tried MRP yet, get it, its worth it

 

 

 

I just discovered MRP while trying to find the right camoflage gray for an F-35, apparently they make the right color as well as a Have Glass finish.  I'm looking forward to trying it.  Any tips on how to spray it?  I typically use Tamiya Lacquer thinner and Tamiya and Mr. Color paints.  Not sure how to approach the MRP.

 

I have just used MRP for the first time. Deffinetly does not need anything added, sprays lovely just as is. I got pretty good coverage with one coat, but gave it a second. One thing i have noti8ced and that its very much like Alclad in that it shows every mark and scratch. You need to make sure the surfice is well prepared before useing it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:36 AM

Pinkbooger

Well I haven't been able to get much done on this. I am hoping to get an airbrush system in the near future to use on this. If I don't I will be brush painting it. My question is: What color should I use? I get my paints from Hobby Lobby. I am thinking of going with whats on the box or at least similar to it. Any ideas? Really not sure what colors to use!!
 

PB,

I would say RLM 70 Schwartzgrun which is a black grey/dark grey, RLM 71 Dunkelgrun which is a black green/dark green and RLM 65 which has a sky blue hue and will sometimes go up half the fuselage. The mottling looks to be the RLM 70. The interior is RLM 2 which is a med grey. The Luftwaffe would use several different colors but those should work for you.

You can Google images of these colors to get a good idea what they look like.

If I got this wrong someone correct me.

Steve

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 1:04 PM

Steve, your suggested top colours look spot on to me.   I'm thinking the box art of the fw 109D might be fictitious, or did the Luftwaffe revert back to early paint colours in 44-45?  Maybe paint shortages would explain it?

The white fuselage band indicates a JG3 aircraft:

regards,

Jack

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