Viet Nam War Aircraft Group Build

John, your C-123 does not look like a kit for the faint of heart!   The details are very good, however.  

I got my fuselage put together.  After the glue dries, I will be pretty busy with sanding, filling and rescribing.  Being a biplane and the method of construction, I think I am going to have to paint some of it in assemblies.  Should be interesting... 

Cheers, 

Hello, I started to paint some of the undersides blue, and unfortunately I had a mishap.  The lower wing assembly fell off where I had it suspended upside down.  I don't think the paint was damaged too much, but the flaps broke off on both sides. The flaps are connected by 6 little quarter moon pieces each side.  It's a very delicate connection, and unfortunately one is missing.  Thankfully it is the bottom wing. It's all in the dehydrator now.  Now, to sand and fill the fuselage!  

Cheers,

Greg 

A little more progress today.

There was no positive locating method for the wheel well assembly so the floor was used to locate it and then lines were scribed on both sides of the well assembly. 
Interior green was applied to the fuselage area enclosed by the wheel well.  The well is not yet permanently installed.

The landing gear assemblies complete and painted.  There are some actuator arms for the nose gear doors that the instructions call for at this point but they are going to be left off until the very last.

Still a flat coat to go but the cockpit is together and painted.  The lower parts below the cockpit floor were painted interior green because there is a window in the fuselage in that area. 
20 grams of weight are called for in the nose.  A silicone mold is curing and tomorrow a weight will be cast in it.  Clay was pressed into the nose cone to develop the shape.

So this isn't an official entry because I will not be proud of the results, but here's a cross build of my model for Buddy's Weekend GB. For that I add to my collection of Gull Gray over White every year. One reason for that is when I have the paints out in the goat rope that is a 48 hour GB, I rehab old models during the drying times for the latest ones. Hell of a way to run a Navy.

John, it's looking swell. Roden falls into the space where one chooses kits for the subject, not the buildability. I've built a few, and the results are unique.

Fairchild, before that Chase is a good story in aviation. I don't think I ever had a ride in one, but they had some unique designs.

EDIT: May have flew in an F-27 once or twice in Air West livery.

I spent a lot of time researching the story of McGovern's last flight in the C-119.

Gave the kit to keyda because I kind of didn't want to build it. Pity as it would have fit here. Oh well.

There's a good Jimmy Stewart movie with a C-82 but it makes me sad because my hero Mantz died making it.

GMorrison

There's a good Jimmy Stewart movie with a C-82 but it makes me sad because my hero Mantz died making it.

Flight of the Phoenix.

Hi john. Im in with something too many to choose from.

John, I really like the details.  The only roden kit I've attempted was a little Fokker biplane.  I need to try and finish it someday.... 

I like the Ford.  I assume it is the Tamiya kit?  I have one in the stash to someday build as a VMF-513 bird, as I want to build everything they flew.  So far, I have two corsairs, f-4b, and an AV-8A done.  I will probably get the Tigercat and Skyknight done during the upcoming Korean War GB.  Good luck on the F-8.  I love me some Crusaders!

Cheers, 

Greg

Proud or not, it'll be a result, Bill!

crown, you are added to the roster.

After some conversations with Gary at Modeler's Alliance (http://www.olddogsplanes.com) and Paul Boyer's comments, I decided to reinforce the landing gear with music wire.  .050 wire was used on the main gear, drilling through the upper bulkhead and down into the center of the wheel.  On the nose gear an .032 wire was used.  It fits into a pocket drilled partly through the cockpit floor and is glued to the back of the nose gear oleo on the back side of    
the nose gear strut.  It will be extremely difficult to see the wires once the plane is finished.  The nose weight was cast in the silicone mold, melting some lead in an old ice cream scoop used as a ladle.  Heat was from a small propane torch.  The back of the weight was filed flush with the back of the nose bowl and when done it weighed 29 grams.  The instructions call for 20 grams.  We'll see if they are right. 

cbaltrin

Glued things that come in halves together. Boy the fins on the drop tanks are paper thin. Gona have to be real carefule! Unfortunately, wont be able to model for about a week.. See you soon.

 

A wee bit of progress this week. Not sure if I'm done with the cockpit or not. If I was smart, I would be. However, If AMS gets the better of me, I will add straps and seat cushion to the seat. ...Not that any of it will be visible in the end.... Let's keep this simple shall we?

More on the C-123:

The engine assembly sequence, like the fuselage interior, is poorly set forth in the instructions.    It was necessary to remove the locating ridge for the firewall from the cowls and thin down the inside of the depression for the exhaust pipe before the engines could slide into the cowl.  The firewall was too far forward and not perpendicular to the thrust line.  In the end the engines ended up in the right place but the firewalls are too far forward.  This would matter only if the cowl flaps were opened.  I would suggest a better way.  When assembling the engines, do not attach the firewall to the engine during engine assembly.   Do not install the exhaust stubs.  Replace the accessory section that fits into the back of the engine with plastic or brass tubing that fits in the hole in the firewall. The accessory section is not molded well enough for the accuracy of fit needed.  When the engines are complete and painted, assemble the cowl, nose bowl, and oil cooler duct.  Next put the engines in the cowl as far forward as they will go and slip the firewall into the back of the cowl and over the tube that replaced the accessory section and glue it up against the locating ridge in the cowl.  Installing the propeller will help in positioning the engines in the center of the cowl and at the proper distance from the front of the cowl.  Tack glue the tube to the firewall and check the engine alignment as the glue sets.

Barely, John, just barely!

John, I am enjoying your build.  I always learn a lot from watching builds such as yours.  Shake and bake kits just aren't as interesting to watch in a build sequence unless it is a conversation or ams overload.  No offense to the Tamiya builders out there, I love them too.  They make me feel like I'm actually good at modeling.  Especially their cars.  

I haven't made any photographable progress myself.  I took the wife to Waco for the weekend.  It's a nice little city, and I'd go more often if I didn't have to drive through Austin.  I'm hoping to find a little man cave time today.   

Greg

John,

The 123 is looking good. I almost asked if the main gear was built retracted because I forgot how low the aircraft is to the ground. Maybe someone out there will do a dio with a wrecked 123 on an abandoned Japanese airfield with a wrecked Pilatus PC-7 parked inside it with couple of figures that look like Mel Gibson and Robert Downey Jr.

Like G, I planned to crossbuild and build the Fujimi EA-6A for the Weekend GB. Unfortunately, my time management skills went AWOL and I didn't finish her in time. Here's some pics.

Per the rules, all builds must be unstarted.

First subassemblies done.

Had to deal with these on each wing half and on each of the flaps.

The wings.  There is a wing fence missing that you have to add in construction. Don't know why they didn't include it in the mold.

The beginning of the second day. This is when things started to go off the rails time managementwise as I had the day off, I figured I had plenty of time. I was wrong.

I forgot how complex a shape the A-6 airframe is. The fuselage consists of five pieces for the basic airframe, two halves, and three pieces to complete the underside. Fortunately the fit was very good and ran along existing panel lines. The top of the fuselage, not so good.

Here's where I called it a day, roughly 27 hours into the build. I forgot to take pictures of the completed cockpit and the intake and exhaust trunks that are hidden by the closed fuselage. I had to take the seats and control stick out so I could get the instrument panel in. At least it was looking like an airplane.

And this where I called quits after getting ready to come into work. I reinstalled the seats (I think I forgot the control stick) masked and installed the canopy and primered it. To be honest, I was quite apathetic towards this build at this point and was planning on writing it off, but I thought I would at least try to get the underside white painted before going to work. Unfortunately, I rushed the job and ended up with some paint runs, which means having to wait a couple of days until they dry and I can sand them off.  Here is where she sits now.

More eventually. The upside is that the A-6A is very similar, so it should go much easier.

EA6A looking good lewbud!

Got the fuselage buttoned up and the intake installed on the F-100D

John,

Your build is lookin' good!

I, however, am disappoint in my model choice, because of the raised panel lines.  I will try to work this out to my advantage.  I did order a resin interior and Eduard PE to spice it up a bit.  The future has brass gun barrels and vac-form canopy in it.

Shane, don't let the panel lines turn you off.  I usually sand them down a little, but pretty often if you sand the model lightly after the color coats they have a nice appearance.

The F-100 is coming along nicely, cbaltrin.  If you're not careful you may be first to the finish line.

Buddy, the A-6 is a tough pick for a weekend build, as you say, too many pieces to the fuselage.  You noted that the model has to be unstarted, that must be a holdover from your writeup for the Weekend GB cause we ain't got no such rule here.  Nice complete report, I'll note your 201 file.

Thanks, Greg.  It's been a long time since I've been to Waco but I remember it being nice there.  I don't like the traffic in Austin either, but Kings Hobbies is a great shop.

 As for the C-123, not much to report, I'm working on the belly seam.  This thing has a belly that goes on forever and is flat as a pancake.  Getting that kind of seam to disappear is not fun.

John,

You are making that C-123 look like a "good" kit!  Well I suppose you could have started with a lower bar by using the dreaded kit from Mach-2!    Roden > Mach-2 any day of the week.

I have only completed one Roden kit (1/32 Dr.I) and it was a tough build, although to be fair the Eduard PE set caused its fair share of problems.  It seems Roden masters their parts nicely, but their low tech molding lets them down.  But sometimes they get plain lazy, like their C-141B Starlifter.  I have read several glowing build reports, so I must have gotten one from an alternate universe.  My kit is thick, poorly detailed, and has a major fit issue with the wing roots being thicker than the stubs molded to the fuselage.  The C-141's level of (poor) detail makes the C-123 look like a super detailed resin kit!  And the scale difference (1/144 vs 1/72) is not the issue, as their VC-10 airliner has fine, profuse detail everywhere.

I'll get to the Vigilante at the beginning of 2020, as I have to try and finsih other GB kits!

jeaton01

The F-100 is coming along nicely, cbaltrin.  If you're not careful you may be first to the finish line.

Yeah, that will be the day! I'm sure I'll get hung up painting the natural metal on the rear fuselage...

John,

Thanks for the words of encouragement.

Shane

Lots of good stuff getting done!  The Hun is looking good. 

As for the Antonov, the glazing fits bad and doesn't hardly look like the real thing.  I'm masking it before I assemble it an get it on the fuselage.  It was a real let down that the Pavla vacuform windscreen didn't fit, as it has the right look.  

I got this book in the mail the other day.  I would love to build an RF-8.  The recon aircraft are definitely unsung heroes.  It was a quick read, but interesting none the less.  Somewhere, I have most of what it takes to make one in 1/72.  Once I get past the Antonov and phantom, I might just dig the stuff out.  I'd love to see the other carrier recon birds here too.  

Greg

Gregbbear

I got this book in the mail the other day.  I would love to build an RF-8.  The recon aircraft are definitely unsung heroes.  It was a quick read, but interesting none the less.  Somewhere, I have most of what it takes to make one in 1/72.  Once I get past the Antonov and phantom, I might just dig the stuff out.  I'd love to see the other carrier recon birds here too.  

Greg

 

 

Recently started the Roden OV-1A , guess I'm in.