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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:16 PM

Marcus that looks like some real eye strain there! That tool was worthwhile, those are straight For sure. The pull-back shot was valuable. Even with the dime the shot from a distance shows how small they are.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:25 AM

ikar01

The P.E. I've been using are from Eduard and their instructions don't cover everything in their set.  I have several parts that I have no idea what to do with them so they will go into the spares box for some future project.  The kit supplied its own set of P.E. but they don't show much  in the way of placment either

Thanks for the instructions link.  I did notice a couple things that I missed on my sheets and will be taking care of thes oversites soon.

 

I had a similar issue with Eduard a couple of weeks back.

When I explained in detail my question, they responded within a day and provided an answer within a week.

It was their mistake, but it solved the problem and gave me the info to move the parts they supplied and make the new ones I needed,

 

Bill

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:27 AM

Marcus, I did the same thing to the Akagi. I finially found a fine tiped awe rather than a drill worked better for me to make the holes for the rungs. I got tired of breaking my .02mm drill bits. I really like the alignment tape they provide.

Steve

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:14 AM

modelcrazy

Marcus, I did the same thing to the Akagi. I finially found a fine tiped awe rather than a drill worked better for me to make the holes for the rungs. I got tired of breaking my .02mm drill bits. I really like the alignment tape they provide.

I kept the drill bit as short as possible sticking out of the chuck and the plastic ICM used for this model is very soft.  The softest I have experience so far.  Very Fire does not provide any tape for alignment.  I used blue painters and Tamiya tape to hold the template down.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, October 9, 2020 8:19 PM

All,

I finished the painting the hull and installed the upper deck, 152mm guns to the lower deck.  Now I can work on detailing and installing the superstructures, etc..

Layed down a couple of fine coats of Future to protect the paint but still have some touch ups to do.  Typical of ICM the upper deck needed quite of bit of trimming to make it fit and sit down correctly on the hull.  There are spots that will need some putty and paint touch ups.

It wasn't fun having to tape around all of those coal scuttles (hatches?) but the effect was worth it.  Anyway until the next post, stay safe.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by TheMongoose on Saturday, October 10, 2020 7:16 PM

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:51 PM

Mongoose,

Great progress, the diorama is looking awesome. Adding the house is a nice touch, reflects that the Tirpiz is sitting in Norway.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by ikar01 on Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:28 PM

I've gota problem.  I was putting on a propeller for the Graf Spee and it went somewhere toward the garage floor.  I started a search for the parts and went as far as moving st[rage shelves and racks just in case it bounced under one but so far it has not turned up.  Shame I wasn't doing a diorama aboiut Stalag 13 because nothing escapes from there.

Does anybody know where I can get a replacement set from either a kit that was done waterline or aftermarket props.  These are 3 bladed props aboiut 1/2 inch across.

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, October 12, 2020 1:05 AM

No help on sourcing one.  But take a flashlight and get down and hold it close to the floor and sweep it across the area. Anything there will be easier to see.

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Posted by ikar01 on Monday, October 12, 2020 6:09 AM

Unfortunately I'm not able to get on the floor easily or without pain and getting up can be just as bad.  I have used a flashlight at different angles, a long handled sticky roller, and moved things around.  So far, nothing.

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, October 12, 2020 7:22 AM

I have the 3 from Tamiya's Tirpitz. May be of some  help. If I remember correctly tho 2 are the wrong direction, their design mistake. If that doesn't bother you then i can grab a pic and we can see if they are close to what you need. For some reason I'm thinking they aren't that big in diameter. Will have to check when i can get to the model room later today.

chris

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, October 12, 2020 7:25 AM

Ikar here's a trick that may help you. If you have an extension tube for the vacuum add it to the hose, then put a woman's stocking over the end with a rubber band around it. Now you run that all around the floor while standing up. If it's there that vacumm will suck it right up and the stocking will hold it there for you to grab Big Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, October 12, 2020 8:34 AM

ikar01
Does anybody know where I can get a replacement set from either a kit that was done waterline or aftermarket props.  These are 3 bladed props aboiut 1/2 inch across.

Yes. I can send you mine. It's and Academy kit but should work. Just PM me your address.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, October 12, 2020 8:35 AM

Marcus.

That's a great looking deck! Yes

Mongoose.

Wow! I have to say that is just looking sweet. You have a knack for ships.

Steve

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Monday, October 12, 2020 8:41 AM

modelcrazy

Marcus.

That's a great looking deck! Yes

Mongoose.

Wow! I have to say that is just looking sweet. You have a knack for ships.

Mongoose,

Thank you.  Now to start building up.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by TheMongoose on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 7:11 PM

When a German battleship was moored did they raise the flag on the stern jackshaft or was it on the main mast? Never thought of this before And I don't know enough about the military to know which one it is but I would guess that there is a standard established for diffe situations Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 10:43 PM

I believe they raised it on the stern while at port and on the mast while moving, although I've seen them on the stearn underway. I'd say while in port it would be at the stearn.

Steve

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Posted by Dodgy on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:19 PM

Marcus and Mongoose, thats stunning work from both of you. I particularly like the stern shot of the Tirpitz. The  way you have done the water and the wake from the Captains cutter is awsome mongoose.

Sadly I dont think the decks on the Emden are going to look anything like yours Marcus.

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Posted by TheMongoose on Friday, October 16, 2020 10:11 PM

Thanks Dodgy!

Heres a few more wip pics of the Tirpitz. 
my 1st major rigging. The Enterprise was easy for the little i needed to do. And now all of a sudden i have to do these dual lines! Made myself a jig and bent them oit of some fine wire. Tried a number of things before this that were all epic failures lol


Hopefully they look good after paint. They seem to be ok scale wise, although i was debating a thinner wore I didn't have anything smaller. This is about  0.3mm


And I'm pretty happy woth this. It's all stretched black sprue.

Lastly I finished up the Fjord and now it's ready for gloss varnish! I spent 2 days working on the wake for the launch. The wake is colored using a sponge dipped in gloss white. This method seems to have turned out well. I never did it all at once - i did some and let it dry, then came back later and made another layer. The background colors seemed to blend in nocely doing it this way.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, October 16, 2020 11:23 PM

Excelent eater Chris. I've never tried to replicate that triangular long wire set up the Germans and British used   I might have to barrow that. At least you don't have to build the ring antennas the Japanese used.

Steve

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:37 AM

Mongoose,

Nice effort on the rigging, really looks nice.  Never used stretched sprue, always Ez-line. 

That launch really looks like it moving at a nice clip, could water ski behind it..LOL.  Really nice work creating the wake.  Those two days were worth it.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:15 PM

Everyone,

Another quick update. 

Added another deck assembly behind the turret B.  Three pieces that if you don't align it correctly on the deck and to the barrbette the deck piece would not fit correctly. 

I was able to place it correctly the first attempt.  Also layed down the recognition marking (decal) for the turret. 

 

Doesn't look like much done but all the decking for the superstructures have been painted and masked and a waiting paint.  Will post those photos after painting.

Overall this is how the SMS Kronprinz is looking.

Until the next post.

Stay safe,

Marcus Beer

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:17 AM

Marcus McBean
Overall this is how the SMS Kronprinz is looking.

Yes

Marcus, It doesn't take much to chew up time on ships. I know that's a lot more work than it looks.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:03 AM

Looking good there Marcus. Not sure if you have already said, but whats the reason for the white circle on the turrest.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:00 AM

Bish,

They are recognition markings so they don't get bomb by their own air force.  The germans also paint their secondary funnel red so they won't confuse their ships with an enemy during combat.   Before the fleet arrives back at base they paint the funnel back to it's original color.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 1:05 PM

Thanks Marcus, should have guessed that really.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 1:57 PM

Or at least to be distinguished by scout aircraft. Think this was 1917 on. Post Jutland.

 

Bill

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:39 PM

Here is a photo of the 88mm gun that will sit of the deck of the rear superstructure of the SMS Kronprinz.  Looks a little plain don't you think.

 

So I pick these up from Shapeways the other day.  I would say these are not so plain.

 

 

 

They fit inside of the gun shields just fine. 

Finished painting the superstructures and just waiting for the paints to dry and cure (All of the paints are Model Master enamels).  Should have some photos Monday or Tuesday.  Once I get them in place things should progress more quickly.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by TheMongoose on Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:44 PM

It's May 31st 1942. The spotter planes alerted Tirpitz to incoming British aircraft. This time they decide to head for open ocean. The Kapitän zur See (KzS–Captain at Sea) Karl Topp is rushing back from the traditional Norwegian red farmhouse. A young Kapitänleutnant readies crewmen to meet him and prepare the Tirpitz for combat operations. The crew is scrambling to remove the camouflage so they can get underway. Cranes are bringing in planes and boats. Crewmen are pulling the tarps off boats. One young swabbie is being berated for sitting on dein Hintern.

The little control house at the stern mooring was painted this color light blue in 2011 so this brings a small element of the present to the historical scene. The ship itself is all out of the box. Red House and moorings are handmade. Water is foam, gesso, lacquer & acrylic paint, and gloss medium & varnish. Scenic Woodlands realistic water & water effects plus a myriad of their ground cover over an old railroad bridge cut in half and repurposed. Of all things my favorite element is the red house lol Overall this is the best piece I have done to date. I'm really happy with how it ended up turning out. The biggest SAVE was the water. My original waves came out all drooped and fell flat. I put Gloss Gel  Medium on a toothpick and put crests on all the flat spots. Whew, what a save I think but I'll let you be the judge from here Beer

 

Here's a cool lesson...I was wondering about the white masts, it just seemed odd when I was building. I added the waterfall based on how often they show up in the local tourist pics. Then I looked at the diorama from the kitchen, about 15' away, and went ahaa so they Germans knew what they were doing when it came to camo. The mast represents the waterfalls!

ModelCrazy pick your favorite for the front page if you would :-)

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, October 24, 2020 4:40 PM

MM....got to love any of the guns I've seen from Shapeways.  Works of art in their own.

Mongoose... Nicely done project.  Every time you look, you find something else that you go "WOW!"

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