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80 Years of the Mighty 8th GB

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  • Member since
    May 2004
  • From: Land of Lakes
Posted by cbaltrin on Wednesday, October 12, 2022 1:06 PM

I think our 'bish' is the same  'bish' as the one on the britmodeller forum. That bish has not been active since mid July... 

plasticjunkie
I pm him using an older pm which still works this way only. Have not received a response. I know it works cause I pm a member here using an older pm and he answered back.  Hope Bish is ok.

On the Bench: Too Much

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    November 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, October 12, 2022 9:09 AM

fearlessfarless

Howdy folks! 

How are y'all?

This has been my first group build, so I'm not sure if there's some kind of unwritten forum rules, but I was wondering if anyone has heard from Bish or tried to reach out to him...

 

I pm him using an older pm which still works this way only. Have not received a response. I know it works cause I pm a member here using an older pm and he answered back. 

Hope Bish is ok.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

  • Member since
    September 2020
Posted by fearlessfarless on Tuesday, October 11, 2022 11:38 PM

Howdy folks! 

How are y'all?

This has been my first group build, so I'm not sure if there's some kind of unwritten forum rules, but I was wondering if anyone has heard from Bish or tried to reach out to him...

  • Member since
    May 2004
  • From: Land of Lakes
Posted by cbaltrin on Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:08 AM

Great looking B-17 crown_r_7. Hope it makes it to the roster page.

GAF, Also great looking mustang you have there. 

Bish, Hope you are well buddy!

On the Bench: Too Much

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Thursday, August 18, 2022 8:33 PM

PJ,

Thanks!  The landing gear issue I put down to my own ham-fistedness.  It's a glue-bomb, to be sure.  Big Smile

Gary

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    November 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, August 18, 2022 6:08 AM

Great looking Mustang Gary, looks super sharp. I enjoyed building, detailing and painting mine but didn’t notice the landing gear issues you encountered. I did have to thin out the cockpit framing to allow the fuselage sides to close so don’t know if you encountered that. I upgraded mine to a NA10 cause I like the filleted tail and had a better decal selection. The clear canopy is indeed a MAJOR negative but after getting 2 replacements from Revell looking the same I simply gave up and ignore it.

Again, great finish to your entry. Beer

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Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Wednesday, August 17, 2022 11:56 PM

No problem, John!  As to the canopies, I can't say with certitude that they're all bad.  If I had known (or realized) the problem on the width, I could have corrected that.  But I don't know if Mustang canopies were supposed to be like that.  It just seemed too narrow to me.

Keep thinking positive!  Perhaps Bish will return, but if he doesn't in a couple of months, I may just set up an alternate thread for the completed builds.  He can take back over when he finally returns.  Let's hope I don't have to do that!  Big Smile

Gary

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    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, August 17, 2022 10:24 PM

Gary, sorry it gave you bad thoughts!  It's still a nice Mustang.  Revell really did mouse up that canopy.  I've got some old Squadron canopies in the stash I will use, who needs the grief.

 

I'm scheduled to do a B-24D, but I am thinking positive and will wait til Martin comes back.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Wednesday, August 17, 2022 9:31 PM

fearlessfarless

Great looking bird! I know that kit gave you a fight but it turned out nice!

Thanks!  I know the best thing about this model is that it's done.

I wonder if anyone else will build something for this GB, what with Bish being MIA.

Gary

  • Member since
    September 2020
Posted by fearlessfarless on Wednesday, August 17, 2022 11:06 AM

Great looking bird! I know that kit gave you a fight but it turned out nice!

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Wednesday, August 17, 2022 10:27 AM

John>  As to the aerial wire, it became a moot point.  I learned that most P-51Ds of the 8th Air Force didn't have aerial wires.  Learn something new everyday!

Well, it's finally finished, or finished as in “I don't want to work on this anymore”. This 1/32nd scale P-51 has led me on some interesting adventures in modeling. Can't say I enjoyed them.

First some history. Arthur C. Cundy Jr. was born in Birmingham, Alabama on the Fourth of July, 1924. His father was a veteran of the 1st World War. His mother, Virginia Key, served as a recruiting officer in the WACs. She was a direct descendant of Francis Scott Key, who wrote "The Star-Spangled Banner".

Cundy joined the USAAF in 1943, and graduated from flight school in 1944. He arrived in England in August, assigned to the 352nd Fighter Squadron of the 353rd Fighter Group, based at Raydon in East Anglia and reported to the unit on August 21. The 353rd was the fourth fighter group assigned to the Eighth Air Force, and had become operational in August 1943, just in time to participate in the Regenseburg-Schweinfut mission. At the time Cundy arrived, the group was still flying the P-47 Thunderbolt.

The 353rd re-equipped with the P-51D beginning in October, and was fully operational on the Mustang by mid-November. Cundy scored his first victory, a Bf-109, on November 27. He shot down a Fw-190 the next month. By January 1945, he had moved up to element leader and been promoted to 1st Lieutenant.

On March 2, 1945, Cundy claimed two Fw-190s and one Bf-109 to become an ace with a total of six victories.

On March 11, Cundy was flying P-51D Mustang SX-D 44-14963 “Miss Jackie II,” the personal aircraft of 1st Lieutenant Lindsay W. Grove, when it developed a coolant leak over the North Sea as the group flew outbound toward Germany. Cundy reported he was heading back to England, and was last seen diving through the undercast. His remains have never been recovered.

I've chosen to portray his aircraft as it “might” have appeared in December / January 44/45. The paint scheme changed over the few months in service, so there's some doubt about what it actually looked like. I went by this photo and guessed on tail and wing markings, though it's a good guess.



Note I didn't detail the aircraft as others have. The build was straight out of the box.



 


 

 

 

Now about the model.

The Good:

  1. It's about half the price of a Tamiya kit. If you don't want to detail an engine and open panels then by all means this is for you.

  2. Detail is good on pit and surface detail . You can look at "Plasticjunkie's" P-51 NA-5 to see what can be done with it. Sufficient parts are available to make different versions (3 canopys, 2 seats, etc.)

  3. Sufficient decals are there to build two versions. I didn't use all of them as I figured they would be painted over as time went on. They went on and laid down nicely, so I have no complaints about them.

  4. Fit is tight.  I had to sand the bottom of the cockpit some to get the wings to fit.  Watch out for assembling parts and one out of alignment can mess you up, but at least it cuts down on putty!

The Bad:

  1. Canopies sometimes are bad. Ask "Plasticjunkie" about his troubles. Also, canopies are not wide enough to show closed, but are okay if shown in the open position. You might want to check if you have one.

  2. The landing gear is weak, and metal ones are recommended. Ask me how I know!

  3. The instructions are poor. It doesn't tell you about parts, and you have to do some research to determine what to use. I know more about P-51s than before, at least.

Anyway, that's about it. I want to thank Bish for running this GB (wherever he is).

Thanks for looking!

Gary

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, August 12, 2022 6:53 PM

A very small burr in a dremel at high speed and low pressure might be best, the friction generates the heat to melt through.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Thursday, August 11, 2022 11:23 PM

John,

Well, the problem is that the aerial wire should pass through the canopy to run to the radio inside.  However, they forgot to include an opening in the canopy.  I'm going to try to use a hot needle (or x-acto blade) to melt through the plastic and rig it that way.  Like everything else, I'm nervous about doing something like that.

Gary

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:33 PM

I think if the antenna wire is installed there is a roller in the bracket.

 

 

 

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:58 PM

Time for another update.  The P-51 is about finished.  I can tell from the photo that it still needs a bit of work, but that's minor.  What I've started work on is the hardstand, which turned out better than I had hoped (and that wasn't much of a hope).  I had some foam board that I painted gray, then cut out a circle and it's entrance ramp to mask, then painted a light earth color.   I used white glue and sprinkled it with grass.  So far, so good.

I intend to sprinkle some gravel around, perhaps making a pathway off the hardstand.  Also, the grass should be "brown", so perhaps a coating of a light sand on the grass (since this was supposedly the middle of winter).  I guess we'll see.  Meanwhile, there's decisions to make as to whether to attach the drop tanks or leave them loose, and cutting a slot in the canopy to install an aerial wire.

Well, it's a good thing we have till the end of the year!

Thanks for looking.

Gary

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    September 2020
Posted by fearlessfarless on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 10:16 PM

Great looking Mustangs!

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 7:31 PM

Hey, lets have some respect for those old Hawk kits, remarkable how nice 60 years agoBig Smile

 

Both of your Mustangs look great.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Monday, July 25, 2022 7:38 PM

So the P-51 is about finished.  All that's left is a few placards and the drop tanks.  I'm not sure about dirtying it up more than it already is.  Still, it looks too pristine just to let it be, and those were famous last words...

I had hoped to have it done by the end of July and it looks like I'm still on schedule.  Then on to the B-26.

Oh, and the Hawk P-51D is done, for those of you who care.  It represents the bird of Capt. R. A. Karr, from the 4th FS, 52nd FG out of Italy.  I wanted a yellow-tailed bird and the 4th FS seemed to be the only one.  I don't know why I painted it so back in the day.

Thanks for looking!

Gary

  • Member since
    January 2015
Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 7:48 AM

GAF

The decals are sorted and work can continue on the P-51.  The antenna is on and the propeller is glued in.  About all that's left is adding the placards, the navigation lights and finally determining how much of a wash to give it.  I must admit, I'm not very good at it, as you can see by the plating around the exhaust.  I'll keep trying.

Meanwhile, the Hawk P-51 is almost done!  Obviously I enjoy working on 1/48th scale models more than larger.  Big Smile

Thank for looking!

Gary

 

 

GAF I swear that's half the batttle! Keep trying. It's always exciting to see what you can do different. Looking forward to the final reveal!

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:43 PM

Very nice, Gary.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:29 PM

The decals are sorted and work can continue on the P-51.  The antenna is on and the propeller is glued in.  About all that's left is adding the placards, the navigation lights and finally determining how much of a wash to give it.  I must admit, I'm not very good at it, as you can see by the plating around the exhaust.  I'll keep trying.

Meanwhile, the Hawk P-51 is almost done!  Obviously I enjoy working on 1/48th scale models more than larger.  Big Smile

Thank for looking!

Gary

 

  • Member since
    January 2011
  • From: Commonwealth of Virginia
Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Thursday, June 30, 2022 7:05 PM

Thanks for the welcome GAF and Fearless!  My boy Spitfire has never met a box that he didn't like.  He has to try them all out, large or small.  I have to draw the line though when he starts licking and chewing on the parts!!!

Robin Olds was an incredible, innovative warrior.  I hope I can do his bird justice.....

Great builds everyone; keep at it!!

Dave

2022 New Year's Resolution:  Enter 1 group build and COMPLETE a build this year!!  Why Photobucket did you rob me of my one Group Build Badge???  Must be part of the strong anti-Monogram cartel!!!

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Posted by fearlessfarless on Thursday, June 30, 2022 1:41 PM

Welcome aboard Dave! I was just watching Ward Carroll's video about Robin Olds on YouTube. I look forward to seeing your work on that iconic bird!

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Thursday, June 30, 2022 12:48 PM

Tal Afar Dave,

Sorry I missed the P-38J.  I'll welcome you to the GB since Bish is MIA.  I see Spitfire enjoys the box as much as the model itself.  Good resting area!

Gary

  • Member since
    January 2011
  • From: Commonwealth of Virginia
Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Wednesday, June 29, 2022 7:18 PM

Hey Gary,

Your Mustangs are looking awesome!  Hate it that your decals quit on you; don't loose heart, man.  Take a break, regroup, and come back and finish the race!!  You got this, buddy!!

TAD

2022 New Year's Resolution:  Enter 1 group build and COMPLETE a build this year!!  Why Photobucket did you rob me of my one Group Build Badge???  Must be part of the strong anti-Monogram cartel!!!

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    September 2020
Posted by fearlessfarless on Monday, June 27, 2022 8:55 PM

Oh no! I'm so sorry man. Like you said, give it a break, and then come back swinging. 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Monday, June 27, 2022 8:35 PM

Hello, it's me again.  I'm here to report on progress for my P-51 Mustang.  Its two steps forward, and one step back, and I'm ready to quit.  I managed to get the major decals on, but also managed to mess up the tail number on the right side.  That, and lot's of little things to do with the paint, has left me depressed and out of sorts.  I need to put this thing aside and work on something else until my motivation returns, so this will be my last update for awhile.

I'll see you around!

Gary

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Friday, June 24, 2022 8:52 PM

I'm down to final detailing stage before I give it a gloss coat and decals.  Minor touch up work.  Then the hard part --- a wash.

Nothing special to report.  Anything I've done here someone else has a better technique that they've gone over elsewhere.  I've managed to break off the tail wheel, but it was pretty flimsy and might have been expected.  So I cut it off, drilled a hole and made a replacement out of thick wire.  It will be more sturdy, and looks just as good.

The Hawk Mustang is just about finished, and also needs a little detailing.

I've noticed that in all the extant photos of the 352nd FS or the 353 FG, they all were sporting the paper drop tanks.

Thanks for looking!

Gary

  • Member since
    January 2011
  • From: Commonwealth of Virginia
Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:23 PM

Good morning Bish,

I would like to join your 8th AF GB with the classic Monogram P-38J Lightning in Robin Olds' "Scatt 2" theme.  No construction or painting yet.  Some parts have separated from the trees.  My chief quality assurance officer, Spitfire, reports that the kit is complete, but he will conduct further tests of the box.  This will most likely be an OOB build with a few improvements added.  

Thanks for the consideration,

Dave W.

 

 

2022 New Year's Resolution:  Enter 1 group build and COMPLETE a build this year!!  Why Photobucket did you rob me of my one Group Build Badge???  Must be part of the strong anti-Monogram cartel!!!

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