AIRCRAFT - "Prototypes and Paper Projects" Group Build - Still Open.

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 Mike, how about disguising the battery box as an internal long range fuwl tank, such as the Fw200s had. There's a picture of the internal tanks on Swanny's website under his Fw200 build. If anyone does want to go with the Hohentwiel radar option, Eduard do an etch for the Ju290.

QUOTE: Orignially posted by matrixone The Ho 229 nightfighter would have used the centimetric radar scanner enclosed within the nose of the aircraft. No ugly external radar array on this aircraft!

QUOTE: Originally posted by Aaronw Looks like most of these are what if WW2 so I'm not sure my idea is appropriate. I've started to build airtankers (fire bombers) and one on my list is the A-10, these are not currently used but a company Fire Hogs http://www.firehogs.com/ has been actively pursuing the idea and has even built a prototype.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Filibert Kraxner QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl QUOTE: Originally posted by Lucien Harpress Originally posted by KJ200 Now I'm stuck at home with a throat infection, and no inclination to build anything!!!!!!!! I know it's a little late, but I hope you're feeling better! What they said! Sorry mate, must've missed that part of your post first time around. Back in action now thankfully. I've started work on the DFS 194, and already I've managed to crack the canopy I was peeling off the Blutack that I'd put in to protect the canopy during clean up, but it adhered a little too well, and cracked the canopy as I pulled it out!!!! Having read a couple of reviews of this kit, both reviewers bemoaned the thickness of the canopy. PM appear to have responded to this as my canopy was exceptionally thin and clear. Too thin for for me it would seem. Currently painting the cockpit, which should not take long, and then it's on to final assembly!!!! One of the benefits of a kit with only 12 parts! Karl Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF Reply Aaronw Member since September 2015 From: The Redwood Empire Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 7:09 PM Looks like most of these are what if WW2 so I'm not sure my idea is appropriate. I've started to build airtankers (fire bombers) and one on my list is the A-10, these are not currently used but a company Fire Hogs http://www.firehogs.com/ has been actively pursuing the idea and has even built a prototype. So would this be appropriate for the build. They currently are not used as Airtankers and may never be used that way but its not quite a what if since people are spending money to sell the idea, the A-10 is in service and a demonstration prototype is flying. Its more than just a paintjob since I will be building the tank unit as well. If not, thats ok, I'm just looking for an excuse to bump it up on my building schedule. Reply gregers Member since February 2003 From: UK Posted by gregers on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 6:32 PM Greg: from what you tell me I gather this kit is good for your modeling skills yep that it is but its no good at all for my sanity (which is doubtful at the best of times LoL). i too have recently picked up an airfix lysander, never even seen inside the box of one before, YYYYYYEEEEEUUUUCCCKKKKK someone pass me a matchbox lysander to build and a box of matches for the airfix kit . seriously though i am going to build this lysander as the twin tailed prototype with a gun turret. one very odd aircraft indeed. Greg Why torture yourself when life will do it for you? Reply Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 1:15 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl QUOTE: Originally posted by Lucien Harpress Originally posted by KJ200 Now I'm stuck at home with a throat infection, and no inclination to build anything!!!!!!!! I know it's a little late, but I hope you're feeling better! What they said! Sorry mate, must've missed that part of your post first time around. Reply Edit Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 11:38 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by Lucien Harpress QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 Now I'm stuck at home with a throat infection, and no inclination to build anything!!!!!!!! I know it's a little late, but I hope you're feeling better! 2 the above & thanx 2 Karl 4 the link, & 2 Filibert K. 4 the info. nothing 2 report at present...but now i can work on the radio & radar units ! frosty Reply Edit Lucien Harpress Member since June 2003 From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan. Posted by Lucien Harpress on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 9:41 AM Yeah, go figure, eh? What can you do... Norite- I realize your situation with the camera. I would love to see some pics though, as they become available. QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 Now I'm stuck at home with a throat infection, and no inclination to build anything!!!!!!!! I know it's a little late, but I hope you're feeling better! As for me- I plan for this thing (the 290Z) to be the ultimate anti-shipping aircraft. I hope to buy two of the Condor German Missile Set #2, and I, not being able to throw anything away, plan to try to use them all! Then again, I don't know how much lifting power this thing had, with the Me 328 and all... We shall see... That which does not kill you makes you stranger... -The Joker Reply Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 5, 2004 3:02 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 Filibert, you'd think that Huma kits would be fairly easy to come by in Europe, seeing as they are made next door to you in Germany. You would, wouldn't you? Reply Edit Lucien Harpress Member since June 2003 From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan. Posted by Lucien Harpress on Sunday, July 4, 2004 11:24 AM The Good News- I am eagerly awaiting an airbrush (finally!). The check is in the mail for a Paasche VL, and now the path is clear for me to start! The Better News- I will more than likely have a kit in a couple weeks. I hope to pick up a Me 328 and maybe one of the Ju 290s. Whatever sceme I end up using (most likely the mottled grey), it'll be pretty intresting, as I plan to use the same sceme on the Me 328. Also, I'd like to get a whole plethera of anti-shipping missiles and bombs and torpedoes and whatnot for the underwing racks. I'm still trying to figure that one out, too, because my first plan would end up costing me over $40 for just the missiles! [:0] Oh, well. That's a concern for the distant future! I will spend a fair amount of time at www.luftarchiv.de researching all this. I figure so long as this is a big project already, why not go all out? That which does not kill you makes you stranger... -The Joker Reply Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 4, 2004 9:45 AM My Bf-109z Siamese Twin arrived yesterday.... It's a fairly basic kit, on 4 sprues. The bottom part of the wing is in one long section, and made from a different colour plastic. It looks like this is the only special bit of the kit and the rest of the kit comes from a regular 109 line (I suppose this is how it would have been in the real world, using existing production facilities!!). Thee is also a fair amount of flash on the sprues too, and thebox looks a little worn - looks like this is an old kit! Interestingly, enough there are swoostickers with the decal set (made in Ukraine) - normally, that's a big no-no for the regular kit makers?? This kit is by Amodel. Doesn't say where or when it was made, but the instructions are in English and Russian only, and the distributer is based in Poland... @Filibert: I've already started on the Do 335! Well, in a small way. I've partially built the two Daimler Benz engines; they are virtually identical to the bf-109 engines - I saw a colour photograph of one being repaired in a book yesterday, and my colour scheme matches it! woohoo! I've had a go at adding a dark wash to make it look all greasy and grimy...I took a few pictures, but they were rubbish - no detail, so they won't be posted.. Reply Edit KJ200 Member since July 2003 From: Bicester, England Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, July 4, 2004 5:50 AM Filibert, you'd think that Huma kits would be fairly easy to come by in Europe, seeing as they are made next door to you in Germany. As for the DFS 194, it looks like a slightly overweight Komet in a fetching cream colour!!!!!! Frosty try this: www.luftarchiv.de the site is in German, but choose 'English navigation' . There is one section devoted to cockpit instruments, including shots of the aircraft panels, as well as a section all about Luftwaffe airborn radar installations. Hope this helps. Karl Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF Reply Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 4, 2004 3:26 AM Norite: looking very good! I did notice the seat harness imedtiately. It really looks convincing with the canopy open like that.. So I guess you're almost ready to get crackin' on that 335? Karl: interesting subject you chose there. I hadn't heard of the DFS 194, so I'm curious how it looks. Would be interesting to see how it differs from the Me-163. Btw about those Huma kits: at least you had a choice not to buy them. Over here, I haven't even seen any in a long time..... Greg: from what you tell me I gather this kit is good for your modeling skills. The raised detail is a bit of a problem with these old Airfix kits, isn't it? To get my hands on a WW-2 pilot, I just bought an Airfix Lysander which was a blast from the past! No cockpit detail but I was amazed at the (raised) detail on the airframe. Mind you, if I ever build this kit (and I will), I'll probably have to restore a lot after filling and sanding..... I'll have to read up on that, lol. The fact that the P-1127 was in nmf doesn't help any, I have to agree. On the other hand all the pictures and fil I've seen show it in a rather dull (matte) nmf, which would mean you could get away with a slightly rougher finish then if it were polished chrome Lucien: I would agree with you that a mottled gray would look better on top. I usually associate splinter schemes with the early war years and the mottled/ funky schemes with 1944/45. Well you could always try to find pictures of similar aircraft and go with that....or: go with what you like! Frosty: I haven't been able to come up with any radar equipment pics other than the aerials. Sorry about that. Dunno about the visibility in your 229, it IS a big canopy, but then again it's a very small plane.... Unless I work from very good references and am feeling masochistic, I usually settle for a 'busy' look of the cockpit. That's good enough, especially for such a speculative subject as this one. Just my Now for a little update: as I said I have located two pilot figures for the XP-55 (always good to have a spare), and have also acquired a Hasegawa pilot/ground crew set for the YF-23. I'm just using the pilot, but my spares box is growing nicely this way. As a matter of fact, the pilot's in, the cockpit has been painted and weathered some. I have also added an oil wash to the panel lines and the first coat of future is on the plane. I had problems with airbrushing the stuff (it wouldn't adhere well and formed big drops), so I just took a paper towel and smeared a thin layer on. Oh well, looks okay. I have since learned from the techniques forum that I probably had low air pressure. Nothing I can do about that, because I have to use air cans at the moment. Anyway, the decals are next. Unfortunately the digital camera is no longer around, so posting pics is out again for a while.... Reply Edit Anonymous Member since November 2005 Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:48 PM Here is the latest update on the Dornier Messershplidt mistel: http://www.norite.v21hosting.co.uk/models/dornierme.jpg It's very nearly done, All I really need to do is mask the main canopy (note it hasn't been glued in yet) and add some touch up paint here and there. This is also my first attempt/experiment at weathering; I added a dark wash to the Dornier to make it look a bit grubby, and in places tried to make it look like the paint was wearing off to show the silver airframe underneath. There will be no guns on the Dornier; As this is a test bed carrying a heavy load, I figure it will be stripped to reduce weight... Ignore the radio aerial, it wasn't glued in yet. I am proud of the front canopy...I used metal foil to mask it, and I think it came out rather well (First time I've used metal foil) And for the first time, you can clearly see my homemade seat harnesses for the Me 328 The main modelling page with more pictures is here: http://www.norite.v21hosting.co.uk/models/models.htm Reply Edit KJ200 Member since July 2003 From: Bicester, England Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:46 AM I finally picked up a kit for this build!!! I spent ages yesterday looking around my LHS, looking at Huma, Revell & Dragon kits. but ended up buying PM's dimunitive DFS 194 kit. It's tiny, with a mere 12 parts!!!!!!!! This was the development prototype for the Me163 Komet, and should make an interesting, if small subject. I looked through all the Huma kits, but just could'nt bring myself to spend the thick end of £15 on a kit with only about 15 parts. The PM kit only cost me £4.25. Now I'm stuck at home with a throat infection, and no inclination to build anything!!!!!!!! Oh well. Karl Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF Reply Lucien Harpress Member since June 2003 From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan. Posted by Lucien Harpress on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:32 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gregers Hi Filibert, i'll post some pics of progress so far as soon as possable, glad you don't mind me changing things this late in the game. Don't worry about it. I don't even have a kit yet! Anyhoo, I've spent the last few days thinking up paint scemes. I thought it'd be cool to do some sort of a night bomber anti-shipping dealie. Right now I'm wavering between black undersides and "splinter" pattern on the top (the one in the pic below), or black on bottom, and mottled gray on the top. I'm thinking the mottled gray would be more appropriate for anti-shipping duties. I'll see if I can find a pic of what I mean. norite- the Zwilling looks good. Check out www.luft46.com. Go to "Messerschimitt" on the right, and look for the Bf 109Z. Loads of info there! Hope it helps! That which does not kill you makes you stranger... -The Joker Reply « First«17181920212223»Last » JOIN OUR COMMUNITY! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login Register SEARCH FORUMS FREE NEWSLETTER SIGN UP By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. 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