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Tankmaster7

Member since
August 2004
From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:35 PM

Do you guys use an AB for smoke stains and the like? I personally prfer pastel chalks..

-Tanky

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:47 PM

I use pastels as well Tanky... easy on, and if it doesn't look right... easy off!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:22 PM

Pastels are very useful, but the "easy off" can be a mixed blessing. Sometimes they come off when you don't want them to Smile [:)]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:10 PM

Thanks for the info on british interior green Tom and Rick.

I also use pastels. I like the effects I can get with them. The easy off isn't a problem if you spray a very light coat of flat clear over the model after weathering.

-Daniel

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:10 PM

Sean, Great job on the 109 Thumbs Up [tup]

that camo scheme looks absolutely fantastic. Thanks also for the run down on the smoke method, I am definitely going to give that a whirl (maybe even on the Spitfire). Also, a quick question, what alcohol do you use?

Daniel, cool link thanks a lot for that. Also tee paint that I use for all my RAF/RAAF interiors is Model Master Enamel RAF Interior Green 2062.

Tanky, I've been playing around with both. The exhaust stains on my 109 were Tamiya smoke thinned 50/50 with Tamiya thinner and built up in light coats. Pastels I mainly use for panel fading etc.

Something completely off topic now, did anybody else read that Hase are releasing a 1/72 Lancaster as the next in their 1/72 bombers series. 1/72 or not, that one will be a must have for me.

Cheers
Darren

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:30 PM

I posrted the Lancaster announcement over on the AC Forum yesterday. It will be a must for me as well. Noting Hasegawas' past business practices, you can bet that more than one variant will be in the works. I'm hopeful that the kits are successful enough to encourage Hasegawa to continue with the bomber series. I would love to see a new tool, high quality B-26 & Do-17, for example.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:32 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson

Sean, Also, a quick question, what alcohol do you use?

knowing Tweety and the hardship he endured before he finally escaped Happy Acres.... it would be Jamesons Irish Whiskey... makes the paint reaaaallll smooth! not an unpleasant odor either!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:34 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

I posrted the Lancaster announcement over on the AC Forum yesterday. It will be a must for me as well. Noting Hasegawas' past business practices, you can bet that more than one variant will be in the works. I'm hopeful that the kits are successful enough to encourage Hasegawa to continue with the bomber series. I would love to see a new tool, high quality B-26 & Do-17, for example.

oooh a quality B-26 -OR- Do17... how about a Halifax thrown in for good measure??? I would love to see a new tooling of that!!! hmmm if only Accurate Miniatures got the Halifax Bee under their bonnet I would just die!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Tankmaster7

Member since
August 2004
From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:01 PM

tho990, is that small enough for you to put in your sig now?

-Tanky

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:03 PM

Tom, there is no way no how I am spraying good drinkun whisky on my models Big Smile [:D]

Also, that picture that you've added to your sig, it seems vaguely familiar somehow. I'll show my daughter when she gets home from school, she'll get a real buzz thanks

Darren

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:07 PM

Actualy Tanky I just got your pic sized down and will insert it... I had to after my other thank you badge.,.. (in my sig now) ...

BTW: bad news, your decals came back to me today... I didn't put enough postage on them I guess... didnt think they weighed that much.. will go down tomorrow and have them weighed... (I guess the cardboard I put in them was too thick)

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:27 PM

Well as far as AM goes, I wouldn't hold my breath. Still waiting for the 1/48 Vindicator they announced about 3 years ago Sad [:(]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:49 AM

Tweets Love the 109 mate Thumbs Up [tup]

the paint job is spot on, well done another fantastic build.............
Oh Yeah BTW "Eduard Seatbelts" Your welcome, happy to be of help Thumbs Up [tup]

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cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:35 AM

Its been a while, so well done Tweets, Bob, et al!! Great work!!

Paul

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:57 AM

Hmmmm why did i decide to do this Stuka, because i needed some putty practice before i take on the Sabre thats why..........The engine cowl on this thing doesn't seem to go together that well despite the time i spent cleaning it up, i've come to the conclusion that the only reason for the multitude of parts that make up the engine cowl is so different parts can be used to make later model Stukas with the same wings and fueselage.........
Anyways i'm gonna have to do some major filling and will have to rescribe some panel lines that just have to be there......

BTW can you scribe over putty Question [?]

i use revell Plasto

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:34 AM

Jules, scribing putty isnt a problem.
Did ALOT of it on the Sabre.
Just have to remember to go lightly with the pressure, otherwise it tends to 'chunk' out of the line, leaving a ragged crusty looking edge.

Darren I use the Viponds Iso, it comes in a 1 litre container.

The one next to it is the only retarder I could find that worked with acrylic paints through my airbrush.
Took 4 months, and around $180 worth of retarders being bought and ditched, but finally found a winner!!!!
And yes, I tried the Irish whiskey, but couldn't stop spraying it into my mouth!!!
Maybe I should try mixing it with some Kiwi and Lime, whatcha reckon Tom Wink [;)]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:18 AM

Tweets - like you said... I'm not sure that Kiwi would take kindly to you spraying him with lime juice... Wink [;)]

hmmm... maybe I need to come up with a future and thinner drink recipe book...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:25 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Jules, scribing putty isnt a problem.
Did ALOT of it on the Sabre.
Just have to remember to go lightly with the pressure, otherwise it tends to 'chunk' out of the line, leaving a ragged crusty looking edge.

Ahh thanks Tweets Wink [;)]

i've never used a scribe before but now i'm gonna have to, i guess i've gotten to used to these Tamiya Hasegawa kits eh Thumbs Up [tup]

I'll post up a pic of the stuka tommorow so yous can see the amount of filler i had to use...

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:21 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by pingtang

QUOTE: I had a play with the new Gunze buffable metallics the other day on the Ultrcast wheel bay insert. The finish is really fine with an even surface that looks just like sheet alloy.

They're good aren't they. I've been using them for a while and use them alot. They even come out well after brushing them on (that's the best bit, because I get too lazy to clean my AB.)

PingtangI didn't think you could brush paint them?

MDC, who sell Gunze in the UK reckon they are AB only, without a need to thin. Must admit mine sprayed beautifully straight out of the bottle.

I put the cockpit together last night, so I'm hoping to get the fuselage together over the weekend, and probably the wings on. Just need to cut the ailerons out of the upper wing halves.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:29 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Tweets - like you said... I'm not sure that Kiwi would take kindly to you spraying him with lime juice...

hmmm... maybe I need to come up with a future and thinner drink recipe book...

Well Tom, the lil' Kiwis you can run away from, it's the big buggers you gotta watch out for Black Eye [B)]

They tend to lean towards 'cranky' when any sort of citrus is poised in their general direction Wink [;)]

Jules, I'm hanging to see some pics, heard alot of yak bout this Stuka, need some hard stuff now Smile [:)]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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KINGTHAD

Member since
May 2004
From: Dallas

Posted by KINGTHAD on Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:27 AM

This is as far as I have gotton on my build so far. This kit is fighting me every step of the way Black Eye [B)]

but im not going to let her beat me. Nothing fits right and I think I have use a tube of filler on her, well any way here she is. Tongue [:P]

Thad

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:32 AM

Karl, why cut the ailerons out of the upper wing halves, why not the bottom too. are you going ot reposition them? I just cut the edges in to give them a "separate from the rest of the wing" look.

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:47 AM

Looks like good progress Thad. Keep on wrestling it to the finish line Smile [:)]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:58 PM

Alright!!! Another He 111. Didn't know that was what you were working on Thad. You can never have too many 111's. Looks great so far. I take it you have the primer coat on already? Is it the Monogram 1/48 kit like Bob's?

Anyway, got most of the decals on mine last night except for the ones I'm trying to make myself. I've practised with a couple of experiments and think I have it down. Just takes time to let the ink dry. I'm trying to do a He 111 H-6 from I/KG 26 based out of Norway. Going away this weekend though so no pics until after that.

Question: what do you all recommend for a flat top coat? I haven't been too happy with what I've been using so I was going to try Tamiya flat base mixed with future next. What kind of mixture should I use?

Dave

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:12 PM

For a flat top coat, I've been using Polly Scale clear flat acrylic with good results. ModelMaster makes a similar product, but I prefer the Polly Scale.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:18 PM

Thanks for the recommendation Rick, is that a spray can or bottle? I know one of the LHS' here carries Polly Scale so I'll check it out.

Edit: BTW, little one is sick today so while looking after him I counted all my models. I'm up to 67 I believe. Shock [:O]

Didn't think I had that many!! Only 333 to go to catch up to you! Big Smile [:D]

Dave

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KINGTHAD

Member since
May 2004
From: Dallas

Posted by KINGTHAD on Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:43 PM

Dave, it is the same kit as everyone else's, mine is just being a pain in the neck, but it is keeping me sharp. I use the (MM) top coat Rick spoke about, I also have the Polly S, I like them both. They both come in a bottle.

Thad

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:01 PM

Here's a couple of progress pics on my second build. This one is the 1/48 Hasegawa Hurricane Mk. I. The pit is OOB except for the seat & armorplate which are Ultracast resin replacements.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:28 PM

Nice instrument panel Rick, very impressive!
Those Ultrcast seats really look the goods in the hands of someone with experience.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:33 PM

Thanks Sean.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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