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                        AIRCRAFT - Battle of Britain Group Build (Jan 1st 2005 - May 31st 2005)

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                        rjkplasticmod
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
                        Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, February 28, 2005 11:08 AM
                        Jay, looking foward to the pics. Progress on my Hurricane has been non-existant as well. Try ing to finish up a couple of other builds, then get back to it.

                        Regards, Rick
                        RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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                        KINGTHAD
                        • Member since
                          May 2004
                        • From: Dallas
                        Posted by KINGTHAD on Monday, February 28, 2005 12:11 PM
                        Sounds like everybody has the same problem. I just finished one gb, now maybe I can get some work done on this one.

                        Thad
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                        jboutin
                        • Member since
                          December 2004
                        • From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83
                        Posted by jboutin on Monday, February 28, 2005 5:46 PM
                        Lucky me, I am at 100 posts! Party [party]

                        Tonight I'm planning, er want to, uhm, might? ab my typhoon and hurricane. we'll see.Tongue [:P]
                        JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, February 28, 2005 5:47 PM
                        Tweety - so YOU'RE the one who nabbed those disks of pics from my computer desk!! Wink [;)]

                        Bob - thanks for the link! and about your camera, if you check up on setting it to macro mode that'll help you a lot, your pics looked good but a little closer in they'd look even better!!! again congrats on getting a good camera!!

                        Hmmm... this 109 thing is taking off! should I? I mean the last 109 I built was around 1989 or so in my previous modeling life....

                        Rick - know what ya mean about no time to build... I keep hoping to get a good section done to motivate me but it's only been bits and pieces so far!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        rjkplasticmod
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
                        Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, February 28, 2005 6:46 PM
                        Jay, Congratulations on the 100 Posts. Keep em coming.

                        Regards, Rick
                        RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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                        Tankmaster7
                        • Member since
                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, February 28, 2005 7:38 PM
                        Ok progress pics. Yes I know I am a weirdo and like to weather before decals.







                        Well tell me what you think.
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        pingtang
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Monday, February 28, 2005 7:48 PM
                        Who is it that keeps suggesting these new group builds? I know I don't have to join them, but you all make it so hard to resist. The NA GB (sounds like Nag build), sounds good, and now so does this 109 build. Oh....Woe is me!!!

                        Rick Have you seen the new Hasegawa P-40E yet? If so, how's it look? I want to add one of them to my collection when it becomes available in Oz.

                        -Daniel
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                        darson
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Melbourne, Australia
                        Posted by darson on Monday, February 28, 2005 7:48 PM
                        I think it looks great, that's what I think. Nice job so far Tanky.

                        Jay, congrats on your 100th post Party [party]Propeller [8-]

                        Jules no worries mate, I hope you enjoy it. BTW here is a link to a built up Eduard P-40N http://www.hsgalleries.com/gallery04/p40nsg_1.htm

                        Cheers
                        Darren
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                        razordws
                        • Member since
                          September 2004
                        • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
                        Posted by razordws on Monday, February 28, 2005 8:00 PM
                        Tanky: Looking good!! Thumbs Up [tup] the only thing I would suggest is to maybe feather out those exhaust stains a little bit more. The inside stain on the right side looks just about right. If you can get the other ones to match it would be perfect. I look forward to seeing the decals on her.

                        Jay: Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]Propeller [8-]

                        Dave

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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, February 28, 2005 8:03 PM
                        looks good Tanky!!! you are becoming quite the accomplished modeler! I need to build my 111 one of these days... maybe I will throw it in the white tailed 109 build and call it a diorama as the white tailed 109 can be flying cover for it...

                        Daniel - I know nothing, I see nothing, I hear nothing!!! Blindfold [X-)]Taped Shut [XX]Whistling [:-^] these group builds have a life of their own!!!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        pingtang
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                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Monday, February 28, 2005 8:16 PM
                        Nice looking progress Tankmaster. Weathering looks good.

                        Okay onto some progress of my own. I had the camera out today, so I thought I'd take some pics of where I'm at with my Mk.1 Spitfire. So far I've done the port sidewall, some of the seat frame, the seat and the rear bulkhead. Hope youlike it so far:

                        -Daniel
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                        rjkplasticmod
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
                        Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, February 28, 2005 8:54 PM
                        Tanky, Looking good. Nice work so far.

                        Daniel, looks like some good progress. Keep us posted. I picked up two of the new 1/48 Hasegawa P-40E kits a couple of weeks ago. It is beautifully molded & comes with a PE fret for seat belts & some other details. Decals are fair, typical Hasegawa. Only downside is that the kit is engineered so that other variations can be kitted from the same basic molds. This means that the fuselage is a multi piece affair so that future insert molds will give other models with minimum tooling cost. Looking at the layout, it's obvious that an N model ( already announced ), an M and probably an L & K are possible future releases. Dry fitting shows that the parts fit very well, but the seams are not on panel lines, which means some filling & smoothing will be required. Overall first impression is very favorable, but the proof will be in actually building one.

                        Regards, Rick

                        RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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                        darson
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Melbourne, Australia
                        Posted by darson on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 12:03 AM
                        Geez Rick now I'm really jealous, I am hanging out to get my hands on one of those kits but the boss has a complete buying embargo on me at the moment. I don't think I would survive if another package arrived from Great Models.

                        Here's a link to a review that gives the kit a great wrap

                        http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/allies/us/has48p40e.htm

                        Cheers
                        Darren
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                        pingtang
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 6:28 AM
                        I got some more work completed on my spit today. I've finished the starboard side wall and the floor with rudder pedals. Now I've gotta find a good match for British interior green. Anyone know of a good reference for the colour, I might have to do a bit of mixing for this one.



                        Hope you like it, and let me know what you think.
                        -Daniel
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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 6:39 AM
                        Daniel - well.... if ya really want to know what I think..... it's great! I like the PE, I guess I need to start doing more of it.. only done it on a few kits so far till I remembered I am old and my eyesight failing... at least the eyesight failing thing anyway haha...

                        I can't wait to see more!!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        tweety1
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                          August 2003
                        • From: Alice Springs Australia
                        Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 6:42 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

                        Tweety - so YOU'RE the one who nabbed those disks of pics from my computer desk!! Wink [;)]


                        I didn't really nab them so to speak[:0]
                        Remember when I was reaching for the Tenax, and I said I kinda felt something kinda bump my armConfused [%-)]
                        When I got home, I looked in my bag, and kinda saw some discs, which I kinda intended to return, but kinda looked at em first...................................
                        Well, it kinda happened like that...................................kindaShy [8)]
                        --Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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                        bobbaily
                        • Member since
                          November 2003
                        • From: Nashville, TN area
                        Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 1:16 PM
                        Jay-thanks for the comment.

                        Tom-will break out the camera and play as time allows-may post additional pics when successful. Probably should just let my 11 yr. old read the manual and debrief me!

                        The 'proposed' 109 GB has my interest-running out of room on my schedule though....just need to give up sleeping I guess.

                        Bob

                         

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                        jboutin
                        • Member since
                          December 2004
                        • From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83
                        Posted by jboutin on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 1:31 PM
                        Whoa hold-o-stoppo. I think I gotta go to AB school again. I finally was able to bring it out and do some spraying with it. I have forgotten much! It's not like I was a wiz before anyway. What is a good mix, 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner right? I remembered to wipe down the model yes, but I got a little heavy on the spray ! I guess I'll just have to play with it some more to get the right feel. I think better light would help too in my AB work space. Dead [xx(]

                        oh well, "If at first you don't succeed, try and try again" right? or was it "If at first you don't succeed then get all mad and break your tool in half, throw it on the ground, stomp on it and give up"

                        I'll get it yet.Smile [:)]
                        JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 1:35 PM
                        Hi guys,

                        Can I join the group-build?
                        I still have a 1/72 Airfix Lysander half finished and a 1/72 Hurricane Mk I

                        Greetz
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                        razordws
                        • Member since
                          September 2004
                        • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
                        Posted by razordws on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 2:01 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by bobbaily



                        Tom-will break out the camera and play as time allows-may post additional pics when successful. Probably should just let my 11 yr. old read the manual and debrief me!



                        Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

                        I laugh because I have an 11 yr old son and I have to do the same thing all the time!!! Glad I am not the only one.

                        Jay, If you are using acrylics you don't need to thin them at all. If you are using enamels then yes 2-1 or 3-1 depending on your paints. Keep your air pressure at about 15-20 psi (closer to 20 usually) and on the Paasche H close that nozzle until the paint is just barely coming out. Then open it more as you get familar with it.

                        Dave

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                        rjkplasticmod
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
                        Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 2:32 PM
                        Darren, Thanks for the post of the P-40 review. Kinda surprized he didn't mention the multi insert fuselage. Might mean it wasn't much of a problem.

                        Regards, Rick
                        RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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                        dstrebe
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Central TX
                        Posted by dstrebe on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 3:40 PM
                        Count me in with a 1/48 Bf 109e4.
                        Dave On the bench: 1/48 F-105D - a bird my friend's dad was shot down in - and survived.
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                        jboutin
                        • Member since
                          December 2004
                        • From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83
                        Posted by jboutin on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 4:02 PM
                        Thanks Razor, I looked it up on the AB techniques area and that was the general consensus. I was getting the watery paint look, argh, I'll just have to paint over it. But does it work (not thinning) for different manufacuturers? I have tamya, MM and pollyS paints to work with.
                        JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -
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                        tweety1
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                          August 2003
                        • From: Alice Springs Australia
                        Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 4:43 PM
                        It is a good idea to thin your paints a little.
                        I use Tamiya and Gunze acrylics exclusively, and thin both of them.
                        Usually 2/1 paint/thinner ratio, through an Omni 4000 a/b.

                        I use a custom thinner mix to help minimize tip dry, which is the biggest pain with acrylics.
                        --Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 5:10 PM
                        Tweety - keep the disks.. Kremps decided to give it one more go and moved back in over here... Wink [;)]

                        Jay - I use either MM or Vallejo (Color of Eagles) acrylics... on the MM I do thin mine a bit but thats just personal preference... I know lots of people that don't so it works that way as well... Tamiya you have to thin, but with their thinner.. others use alcohol etc... but if you are just getting back into airbrushing with the thinner it is much more forgiving... it has a retarder in it that helps the drying spped by allowing the time for the paint to settle...

                        Bob - no rush! and I know what you mean about the 11 yr old thing.. I am a network admin for a large school district here in TX and the kids keep me busy trying to block them from totally taking over the network!!! And there's countless times I have walked by a room at a school and see a 5th grader showing a teacher how to get into such and such program...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        darson
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                        • From: Melbourne, Australia
                        Posted by darson on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 5:22 PM
                        Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the BoB GB Flyingraptor & dstrebe, I've updated the first page with your builds. Don't forget, this group likes lots of progress shots and plenty of yapping (the topic is not all that important Big Smile [:D]).

                        Jay I use MM and Humbrol emamels and the advice on thinning ratios and air pressure that razor gave you is spot on. The only things I would add are, if you find the paint is coming out too thin, then add a bit more paint to the mix (a little at a time) until you are happy with it. Are you priming your models, if not you should? A primer will give the paint something to bite in to. Also, don't forget to keep the ab moving over your model so that the paint doesn’t get a chance to puddle.

                        Cheers
                        Darren
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                        Tankmaster7
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 5:56 PM
                        Where do you guys get ultracast stuff? I'm specifically looking for some stuff for my revell 109 e4/7.
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        jboutin
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                        • From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83
                        Posted by jboutin on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 6:15 PM
                        Thanks, Darson, Tweety and Tom, I'll try again tonight, maybe. As for Primer I have only really used a base coat of a light grey in the past. That is what I was planning on doing in this case but I guess I need to practise some more Big Smile [:D]
                        JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -
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                        rjkplasticmod
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                        • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
                        Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 6:58 PM
                        Tanky, you can order direct from Ultracast @ http://www.ultracast.ca

                        Regards, Rick
                        RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 7:04 PM
                        http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=TD49005 I'm thinking of this cockpit for the kit. How is True details usually?
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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