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AIRCRAFT - 'It Floats and Flies Group Build' - Feb 1st 2005 to Sept 30 (Gotta finish sometime!)

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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:37 PM
Almost done, just placed that last clear piece. One last inspection and will take the final pictures tomorrow.
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  • From: Keizer, Oregon
Posted by Model Grandpa on Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:10 PM
Quagmyre, looks real good to me.

Swanny, can't wait to see the pictures.

Brian, you've got mail. Got a picture of the cockpit of the Herc for you, don't ask, don't tell.Whistling [:-^]

I just have a little work to do on my Herc yet. Here's a picture from today of me standing in front of it. I found it easier to work in 1:1 scale.

Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark
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  • From: Sydney
Posted by cossack on Sunday, February 20, 2005 3:19 AM
Dan,

I have to pick holes ... I think you have scale problems with the colour ... and the persons jacket does not look accurate ...

Wink [;)]

Lovely pic mate ... its just that the rest of us are jealous!!

And now a serious note for you all. I have tried some trial balances with the Cataline. I am seriously worried about how much lead I have to load into it to get it to sit properly on its tricycle undercarriage. I am worried that over time the undercarriage will warp Shock [:O]. I am a little loathe to use the supplied clear prop stick, but can think of no other way to balance it up, and have it last!!

Does anyone have any other solution??? I really don't want to shave every part aft of the rear undercarriage back to "transparent" thickness!!!

Or, if anyone else has built the kit, and can assure me that the undercarriage will not deform over time ...

I have found that there is limited room under the nose gunners stations - certainly not enough to hold all the weight necessary. And so I have to put extra weights just aft of the cockpit bulkhead Sad [:(]

Appreciate any thoughts you may all have ...
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:27 AM
Nice pic, Dan! And thanks so much for the mail. That'll help a lot.

So, could that museum be any cooler or what?
Oh, you just have an SR-71 sitting right next to the SPRUCE GOOSE!!!!!

Man-o-man!!
Say, did the Herc have yellow tips on the props way back when, too? Never noticed in old ref pix.
~Brian
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  • From: Keizer, Oregon
Posted by Model Grandpa on Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:48 AM
No problem Brian, glad I could help. BTW, the paint is more silver then I remembered. I think you'll be right on the money with your aluminum/clear over coated scheme.

Yep, keep a SR-71 under one wing,



and a DC-3 under the other.



Couple other random pictures of the Hercules from yesterday. That’s the back of Model Granny’s head in the back of the SR-71 picture.



Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:57 AM
Quagmyre, Great looking Cat Fish. Nice work.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:24 PM
Almost three weeks to the day and this build is complete. She is pretty much right out of the box, I had to make my own rigging and had lots of issues with the clear parts but other than that, she was a pretty uneventful build. Here is my Sword 1/72 scale plastic and resin Sikorsky S-43 in pre-war Marine Corp markings.











I think this will look pretty interesting sitting next to my Do-26 in pre-war yellow wing markings also.
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:38 PM
Done so quickly, and very nicely also. Looks great.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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  • From: Keizer, Oregon
Posted by Model Grandpa on Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:38 PM
Nicely done Swanny!
Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark
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Posted by Quagmyre on Sunday, February 20, 2005 10:21 PM
That'll do Swanny, that'll do.Big Smile [:D]

So... since you were the first to complete your bird (and so soon) that means you get to build another for this group...right? Big Smile [:D] Sounds like the incentive management gives me when I exceed expectations... more work. Why don't you build that Classic Airframes 1/48 Scale Supermarine Walrus or that Hasegawa 1/72 Scale Kawanishi H6K5 Type 97 Flying Boat “Mavis” I saw on your site for this build too?


Current and Subsequent Projects:
1/48 scale Tamiya P-47 "Razorback" - Complete
1/48 scale Testors/Lone Star Models PT-22 Recruit - 20% Complete 
1/48 scale Monogram C-47 Skytrain - Not Started

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2005 4:01 AM
now your embarrassing me swanny I've just started and your've finished . out standing build well done mate..Thumbs Up [tup]

cheers mike
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, February 21, 2005 8:43 AM
She's a beaut, Swanny!
Now, head on over to Osaka and give me a hand with my Herc!


Dan, thanks for more cool pix.
~Brian
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, February 21, 2005 9:39 AM
Well, Swanny is shaming me into actually doing something with mine. Working on the interior, should have some pics in a day or two.... or three Smile [:)]

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Harrowbeer on Monday, February 21, 2005 4:15 PM
Well done Swanny, she is beautiful and quick to. Only fitting that the 'master' should finish first!! Great build
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  • From: Sydney
Posted by cossack on Monday, February 21, 2005 6:00 PM
Beautiful build Swanny - you gotta just love those pre-war props. Almost civilian in presentation!!

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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Monday, February 21, 2005 7:15 PM
Thanks for all the praise guys. Other than the issues with the clear parts this was really a very nice build.
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  • From: British Columbia,Canada
Posted by bstrump on Monday, February 21, 2005 9:40 PM
Three weeks?! That's it? Wow! Very impressive build.Thumbs Up [tup] I guess I should get off my butt and get my project going.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2005 9:57 PM
Wow!! I knew this was a seaplane build, I just didn't realize it was the Schneider Cup Races !!! Big Smile [:D] I'm gonna have to move a bit faster to keep up ....never happen, I'm too slow.

My project is Roden's 1/72 Felixstowe F.2A (late version). I plan to add detail inside the hull and to add an additional gun station above the fuselage, behind the upper wing center section. My main reference is Windsock #82, and the particular aircraft is Nr 4543. One problem is that the photo shows id-bands circling the rear fuselage, but does not show the front fuselage scheme or indicate what the colors might be. I did find, on the Roden site, what appears to be a drawing (see below) of my aircraft so I assume they may actually put this variation out. From that drawing I gather they believe the front fuselage stripes to be horizontal. After due consideration, I'm gonna assume the color to be white with blue stripes, although I may change that if something new comes up.




I went really nuts over the beaching trolley, kind of forgot the build is the airplane. Anyway, Roden gives you a nice little trolley, but it isn't quite the same as in the Windsock pictures or drawings. The main thing is that Roden provides a flat plate top surface, where it should be slats that will drain nicely. So here you can see the scale drawing and my re-built trolley -- the grey stuff is Roden, the white is Evergreen. Note also that I carefully drilled out the spokes on the trolley wheels.



Here is the reworked trolley frame, with no slats/detail.



and two more completion pictures. I have a few slats that don't look good & need reworking, but that'll come later. I plan to paint this using oils to see if I can get that wood grain effect on it; we shall see how that comes out -- I've never done it before.






I've glued the wing sections, using wax paper covered balsa as a jig & pins to hold things in place. I gave both wings 1/16" dihedral because they are so long & thin, I figured they'll droop once I get them built. The top wing is holding the dihedral but the bottom isn't -- I think because the two spars aren't as strong as a solid section. I think this will fix itself when I mount the lower wing in the hull -- if not the top wing better be strong.



Also note a good use for Lego's -- one can pretty well custom build any sort of jig.




And lastly, I'm going to detail the fuselage although not much will be visible unless I decide to leave the upper deck loose so it can be displayed -- not sure yet. Anyway, the first picture is the original hull detail, which I sanded down, and replaced by Evergreen as shown in the second picture. I'm also going to try to paint the interior using oils for wood grain simulation -- as I said, I've never done that before.






Well, from this point, I need to clean up the wing joints, start on the fuselage interior, and dive into the very beautiful 30-some piece Rolls Royce Eagle engines that come with this kit. I guess I can also work on guns & other details. I also need to work on jigs to support the build of the wing module. Lots to do ....

There are more pix on my website, but I haven't added text yet -- the whole thing is under (re-) construction (again) ....

John


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  • From: Keizer, Oregon
Posted by Model Grandpa on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:12 AM
Looks like your making great progress John. Your Felixstowe F2A kit is definitely a lot more complex then my Hercules kit.
Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark
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  • From: Sydney
Posted by cossack on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:10 AM
What a beauty John - and I was worried about how to place my seights in the Catalina!!!
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:42 AM
John, that looks very interesting. Great job on the beaching trolly also.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:37 PM
project update:
yesterday was too icky weatherwise 2 do much except stay inside
so i was able 2 get a lot of work done on my W29... in fact, the only things
left 2 add r the observer's parabellum mg on it's mount, the ammo drums
4 the spandau mgs, the rudder, the pilot's windscreen & some control wires
4 the flying surfaces... & national markings decals 2 the underside of the wings.
i even have a couple of pix in my digicam, but i can't upload them rite now...
this thing looks so cool, & i can't show it 2 u.....Dead [xx(]
i'm totally frustrated !!!
sorry,

frostySmile [:)]
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:46 PM
Looking forward to the pics, Frosty.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by mats.man on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:45 PM
To the group

If you are looking for information, including detailed pictures of many different flying boats, I recommend that you look up Sea Wings on the web. In particular there is a
kit review of the Sunderland that may be of help to the builder of the Airfix Sunderland. I built the kit about 30 years ago an cannot remember any serious problems other then the heavy rivet detail.

Richard
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:23 AM
Thanks Richard great site . I've sanded the riverts down a bit already so I hope it comes out ok when its painted..

cheers mike
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:39 AM
Thanks for the link Richard. Very interesting site.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:32 PM
OK, the Felkixstowe engines come in something like 33 pieces each.
Little, tiny, fragile, tiny, little pieces.
But the detail is exceptional -- I have a good ref on the Rools Royce Eagle & Roden got it right on.



I recommend using a nice new sharp razor blade to cut the parts free, backed by a balsa block for support. Even with that care, I broke two & am having to put them back together. The parts are all pretty flash free, so you don't need to do a lot of cleanup -- a good thing considering how small they are. There are a couple places where the mold didn't mate exactly & those parts need cleaning. I found the propshaft to be too flimsy & replaced them with home-grown brass ones.
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  • From: Newfoundland, Canada
Posted by rodc on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:44 PM
Finally moved from the sprue wash and prime stage. Have spent the last little (while time permitted) to start the painting and assembly of the fuselage interiors of my CL215

Everything is looking good and my color selections look good relative to actual fotos of the interior. The Heller cockpit is poor in detail and as far as I know there is nothing aftermarket for it so I'll just assemble OOTB.

I will try to get some fotos up this weekend to show the progress before I seal the fuselage halves.

Does anyone else get irked by this? You spend quite a bit of time doing a decent job on an interior that you'll never see once you glue the halves shut.....but I can't help myself.....I wouldn't feel right knowing that I never adequately finished the interior!

Cheers for now......

RODC
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:53 PM
John, I don't think I could handle those tiny little bits. I'm starting to think 1/32 scale Smile [:)].

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:33 PM
it looks like i'm going 2 b able 2 post a couple of pix of the
(almost completed) W.29 in a minute, yippee !






hope u like it, just a few little things left 2 add !

frostySmile [:)]
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