AIRCRAFT - 'It Floats and Flies Group Build' - Feb 1st 2005 to Sept 30 (Gotta finish sometime!) - FineScale Modeler - Essential magazine for scale model builders, model kit reviews, how-to scale modeling, and scale modeling products

Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2005 5:10 AM

QUOTE: If you have my luck, the authoritative source will crawl out of the woodwork the day after you finish the decals .....

Yep that will be about right , it has happened a couple of times in the past but I'm not going to wait for ever though..

I've ordered the PE cockpit for the catalina as well as the sunderlands this should be interesting .

Not long now guys the clock is ticking.....

cheers mike

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 7:17 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mgbriggs
...., but I can't tell weather the decals are gray or red in the photo , after seeing several colour pics of other sunderlands and there codes are painted dull red . So I think that I'll do this sunderland decals in the dull red as well .

cheers mike

If you have my luck, the authoritative source will crawl out of the woodwork the day after you finish the decals .....

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Aurora-7

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December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:23 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by ghettochild

has anyone built the monogram pby? i am thinking of buying some am decals but the only ones i find for the snafu snatcher are promodler decals. arent they the same thing??

I've got one started from a last year. Juat the cockpit assembly so far. I have a Pro-modeler -5A version and the regeluar Revell/Monogram -5 I'll have to check what the -5A decals are.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:51 AM

Thanks jratz , it looks like this one has had it removed so I think I'll build the sunderland with out it and I've found some letter/number decals from great modelweb site , but I can't tell weather the decals are gray or red in the photo , after seeing several colour pics of other sunderlands and there codes are painted dull red . So I think that I'll do this sunderland decals in the dull red as well .

cheers mike

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:47 PM

Mike:

Numerous photos show Mk.III with upper turret removed, to include the fairing it sat in. I have no idea if that was something a squadron could do or what. My two refs don't discuss it at all.
Unsure on markings: I have no pic of RB-E, but many similar marked a/c carry grey letters.

John

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ghettochild

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November 2003
From: houston,texas

Posted by ghettochild on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:16 AM

has anyone built the monogram pby? i am thinking of buying some am decals but the only ones i find for the snafu snatcher are promodler decals. arent they the same thing??

-Josh

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:13 AM

No probs Aurora-7..

I've found a aussie subject that I can build for the sunderland but trying to find some decals to make up the codes and the serial numbers . I want to make up the code RB-E It belongs to the sunderland mkIII which flew in the RAAF 10 squadron which was shot down at bay of biscay . the decals in the box look like there a dull red colour and there about 19mm high . also the serial number DV969 in black there about 3mm high , The box ones are for a Canadian plane didn't want to use them.
I also can't see the top turret on this plane did some sunderland mkIII have them removed . Question [?]

Any help much appreciated..

cheers mike..

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Aurora-7

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December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Friday, January 28, 2005 11:49 PM

You're on the roster, Crazy. The build officially starts February 1st and a suggested end date is the end of May.

And thank you mgbriggs and all for joining.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 11:34 PM

To the build CrazyModeler , you can build it anyway you want in a dio or on land what ever takes your fancy .

Looks like we have quite a few builds , great . And thanks to Aurora-7 for setting this little build up. Thumbs Up [tup]

cheers mike

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 7:50 PM

I would love to join the group build.
Do I need to have diarama?
I am building a pdy-5a black cat catalina.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 7:47 PM

sorry I didn't tell you what I am building.
It is a pdy-5a black cat catalina.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 7:44 PM

It is crazy. I would love to join the group build.
When do I have to be done with it?
Do I need to have a diarama? Big Smile [:D]

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Friday, January 28, 2005 7:51 AM

rlawson/Dick,

You're on the roster. I can't wait to see that backdate project! Please post some in-progress pics.

Ok, Quag, we'll let your early start go since you got a move coming up and your conversion sounds a bit sticky. You'll certainly have a unique bird when it's done.

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cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Friday, January 28, 2005 4:58 AM

With not very much time left till we start, we have quite a variety of planes being built!! I am really looking forward to the finished gallery Smile [:)]

Welcome rlawson!!

And the Wildcat looks great so far ... looking forward to seeing more progress.

Paul

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af53/raiderpilot/smprop_gb.jpg

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 4:23 AM

Looking good there Quagmyre , I also must confess that I've also played around with the sunderland , glueing several parts together , but I can't go any further until the PE cockpit arrives , abit of a delay now but the Oz group build is on now so that will keep me buzy until the parts arrive hopefully by next week ..

Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

to the build rlawson..

cheers mike

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rlawson

Member since
February 2003
From: Sugar Land, TX

Posted by rlawson on Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:02 PM

Hey Aurora-7 -
Please add me to your list. I will be building the Monogram 1/72 Albatross backdated to a Navy UF-1, per the article in FSM November 04. It will be in Dark Sea Blue with yellow rescue markings, thanks to some great pictures posted by BlackWolf. I'd been looking for this scheme a while (thanks again, BW). Now if I can just make the decals on my old computer.

Regards, Dick

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Quagmyre

Member since
December 2003
From: and just won't go away.

Posted by Quagmyre on Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:37 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

Early Start!!!!????

That means you have to scratch build the engine! Wire harness, push rods, crank case cover and all!

But so far the catfish is looking good,

I'll have enough work sanding the resin supports. Diagrams tell a different story than written directions, so I'm trying to get things to fit my way. Must be something lost in translation. Directions written in Anguish, not English. Not as funny as Engrish, unfortunately. Big Smile [:D]

Current and Subsequent Projects:
1/48 scale Tamiya P-47 "Razorback" - Complete
1/48 scale Testors/Lone Star Models PT-22 Recruit - 20% Complete
1/48 scale Monogram C-47 Skytrain - Not Started

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:33 PM

Good start on the Wildcatfish. Should make an interesting build.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:07 PM

Early Start!!!!????

That means you have to scratch build the engine! Wire harness, push rods, crank case cover and all!

But so far the catfish is looking good,

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Quagmyre

Member since
December 2003
From: and just won't go away.

Posted by Quagmyre on Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:55 PM

All this talk about the PBM Mariner makes it tempting to pull my Pend Orielle PBM Mariner out of storage for this build... oh so tempting... alas I cannot with the move to a new house coming soon. I'll be lucky to get these two Wildcat's I'm working on in.

Oh yeah... I jumped the gun on the start by the way. Sorry. Kinda had to since I start moving in a 5 weeks. So what's the penalty... a yellow card or something? Big Smile [:D]

Here's a few pics of the start of the Wildcatfish.

Floats are on now but batteries are dead on the camera.

Current and Subsequent Projects:
1/48 scale Tamiya P-47 "Razorback" - Complete
1/48 scale Testors/Lone Star Models PT-22 Recruit - 20% Complete
1/48 scale Monogram C-47 Skytrain - Not Started

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:25 PM

J-Hulk,

Are there any on-line carriers of these sheets? Never seen them in my LHS but I think I will stop by and ask. He's said many times that he can order it if he doens't have it.

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:21 PM

Aurora-7,

I'd be very interested to know more about those "plastic water" sheets. I've never seen nor heard of them before. That might actually work because I would need it to look very calm like many of the seaplane anchorages in the Pacific were. I've been asking around about ways to do this besides having material that needs to be heated as I'm concerned about this melting the plastic. One of the other options I've seen is Woodland Scenics "Realistic Water" that comes in 16 oz bottles, but for a PBM in 1/72 I would need around 4-6 of these even for a thin layer.

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:15 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

rrmelend,

If you want to 'float' your PBM and don't want to buy clear, porable resin, I've seen 'plastc water' sheets sold in some hobby shops and also there's modeling clays that can be painted.

Tamiya in fact sells some nice "water sheets." I'm thinking about using that for my Spruce Goose.

~Brian

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:01 PM

rrmelend,

If you want to 'float' your PBM and don't want to buy clear, porable resin, I've seen 'plastc water' sheets sold in some hobby shops and also there's modeling clays that can be painted.

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:47 AM

I'm actually hoping someone will produce an affordable on in 1/48 as this is usually the only scale I work in. I'm still trying to figure out how to put this kit in water at a simi-reasonable price. When I am done I'm hoping on giving this model to my grandfather to display with all his other Mariner memorablilia.

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:07 PM

I suppose a shim is the way to go, although that will cause a step at the windscreen to fuselage nose join Banged Head [banghead]

. Ah the joys of limited run kits.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:53 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod
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Just dry fitting, it appears that the windscreen fits the nose OK, but it's about .020 or so too shallow to blend with the top of the fuselage deck, creating a step.

Oh, I thought the windscreen was too big! How about adding a shims to add to the fuselage portion?

rrmelend,
I would like a Mariner kit ,too but the Mach 2 kit is too much money (for me) for a 1/72 scale kit. Someday someone will mass produce a PBM in 1/72 but I can't believe it hasn't happened yet!

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:13 PM

DanCooper: Revell also makes a PBM but it is in 1/112 The model does no justice to the Mariner. The Mach 2 one is the only real choice unless you can dish out the cash for a Pend Oreille PBM in 1/48. This is my favorite aircraft mainly because my grandfather was a nose gunner on one from '44-'46.

I'm working on the Mach 2 kit now for this build and let me tell you it is looking like a real challenge. The plastic is soo thick it's unbelieveable. I just ordered some Aeroclub props for it because the kit props are a joke. I also wish there was an aftermarket company for all of the clear pieces. These are also way too thick but I guess you take what you get and do the best you can.

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:50 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

It'll be a choice of filing away fuselage or canopy. Depend with looks like it would be a better representation -less fuselage or less glass. How does it compare to images of real S-43s?

Just dry fitting, it appears that the windscreen fits the nose OK, but it's about .020 or so too shallow to blend with the top of the fuselage deck, creating a step. That's too much to file off the top of the fuselage without disrupting the contour of the aircraft. I hate it when clear parts don't fit, as they are a pain to modify without destroying them. Especially when the're too small, it's tough to make them larger.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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DanCooper

Member since
March 2004
From: Belgium

Posted by DanCooper on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:31 PM

Aah, the "Float and Flies" people, just the guys (and gals) I was looking for... maybe one of you could tell me if Mach2 is the only manufaterer that makes a PBM Mariner ?
Mach2 is hard to find over here, so I was wondering if some of the "regular" manufecterors is producing such a bird as well.

Thank You

On the bench : Revell's 1/125 RV Calypso

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