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AIRCRAFT - 'It Floats and Flies Group Build' - Feb 1st 2005 to Sept 30 (Gotta finish sometime!)

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hello Im seahorse from Argentina!!
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:28 PM
Hello to everybody!!
Im seahorse the only collector from flying boats and flying flanes from Argentina..I have a great collection of this beautifull (for me ) machines in 1/72 scale..
In this moment I working in a old kawanishi h6k2 mavis and gst- pby2 russian consolidated catalina under licence..but my future proyect is working a Bw -138 of supermodell and a fiat rs-14 by tauromodell..
I m happy because a few people loving this machines..and meeting this forum is a great
deal for me..
regard for all
seahorse
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hello Im seahorse from argentina
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:04 PM
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Member

Aurora-7....................Hasegawa 1/72 Kawanishi H6K5 flying boat 'Mavis'
swanny......................Sword 1/72 Sikorsky S-43
ipms33206...............Pro-Monogram 1/48 PBY-5A Catalina
therriman..................1/72 PBY-2
Quagmyre.......RHVP Conversion kit for a 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 to a F4F-3S Wildcatfish
Awood23...................Monogram 1/48 PBY Catalina
jratz.............................Roden 1/72 Felixstowe
rjkplasticmod...........Sword 1/72 Sikorsky S-43
roadkill_275.............Monogram 1/48 PBY-5 Catalina
" " .............Monogram 1/48 OS2U Kingfisher
tlivancso....................C.R.D.A. Cant. Z "GABBIANO"
leemitcheltree..........Hasegawa 1/72 SP-5B Marlin
Harrowbeer..............1/72 Supermarine Walrus
ghettochild................Monogram 1/48 PBY Catalina
mahoneymem.........Czech Models 1/48 Grumman Goose
modelgrandpa.........Minicraft 1/200 Hughes H-4, HK-1Hercules -The 'Spruce Goose'
Bondobandit.............Xotic-72 1/72 Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk
Nicodemus...............Minicraft 1/144 Boeing China Clipper
rdexpress..................Something Grumman in 1/72
KINGTHAD................TBA
mgbriggs...................Airfix 1/72 Suderland
" ".................................Academy 1/72 PBY-5A 'Black Cat'
rrmelend....................Mach 2 1/72 PBM-5 Mariner
bstrump
woodbeck3...............TBDfrostygirl....................Eastern Express 1/72 Hansa Brandenburg W29
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

Welcome to the IFFGB. The sole purpose of this group build is to supply motivation to modelers in the building of a model(s) of any aircraft that can land in and take off from water. The subject can be anything from a Boeing China Clipper to a little Huey 300c with pontoons. Any scale and any building medium.

We plan to start on February 1st 2005 and end by May 1st. Get your Christmas/Channukah/Kwanza gift requests in now!

This NOT a contest so the start and stop dates are only to help us focus on our objective (many of us have several here). If you run after the stated end date, please still post images of your finished work.

Here is our tag:


I'll maintain a list here of forum members and their projects.

Member

Aurora-7....................Hasegawa 1/72 Kawanishi H6K5 flying boat 'Mavis'
swanny......................Sword 1/72 Sikorsky S-43
ipms33206...............Pro-Monogram 1/48 PBY-5A Catalina
therriman..................1/72 PBY-2
Quagmyre.......RHVP Conversion kit for a 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 to a F4F-3S Wildcatfish
Awood23...................Monogram 1/48 PBY Catalina
jratz.............................Roden 1/72 Felixstowe
rjkplasticmod...........Sword 1/72 Sikorsky S-43
roadkill_275.............Monogram 1/48 PBY-5 Catalina
" " .............Monogram 1/48 OS2U Kingfisher
tlivancso....................C.R.D.A. Cant. Z "GABBIANO"
leemitcheltree..........Hasegawa 1/72 SP-5B Marlin
Harrowbeer..............1/72 Supermarine Walrus
ghettochild................Monogram 1/48 PBY Catalina
mahoneymem.........Czech Models 1/48 Grumman Goose
modelgrandpa.........Minicraft 1/200 Hughes H-4, HK-1Hercules -The 'Spruce Goose'
Bondobandit.............Xotic-72 1/72 Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk
Nicodemus...............Minicraft 1/144 Boeing China Clipper
rdexpress..................Something Grumman in 1/72
KINGTHAD................TBA
mgbriggs...................Airfix 1/72 Sunderland
" ".................................Academy 1/72 PBY-5A 'Black Cat'
rrmelend....................Mach 2 1/72 PBM-5 Mariner
bstrump.....................Monogram 1/144(?) HU-16 Albatross
miduppergunner.......TBD
toot_the_flute..............TBD
mats.man....................Combat Models Martin Mars
rockythegoat................Airfix 1/72 Auster Antarctica
cossack.....................Mongram 1.48 PBY-5A (maybe in RNZAF colors)
rodc............................Heller 1/72 Canadair CL-215 air tanker
yukonrob...................Tamiya 1/72 Aichi M6A1 Seiran
J-Hulk..............Minicraft 1/200 Hughes H-4, HK-1Hercules -The 'Spruce Goose'
woodbeck3...............TBD
frostygirl....................Eastern Express 1/72 Hansa Brandenburg W29
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    January 2005
  • From: with Rommel in the desert
Posted by yukonrob on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:13 PM
Hey Aurora

I was contemplating water but I think I am talking myself out of it. I had thought of buidling a seaplane ramp and placing the plane on it's dolly nearby.

Rob
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

QUOTE: Originally posted by jratz

QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl
pretty sure it will b the Hansa Brandenburg W29...
frostySmile [:)]


OK, Duel over the Channel !!!!
Your W29 versus my Felixstowe.
You better build two of 'em !!!
Big Smile [:D]
John


LOL, John !
no way i'll have time 2 build 2 W29s....
i'll b lucky 2 complete 1, lozenge camo & all !
u will win by default !

hey, i just noticed how many folks r building in 1/72 4 this GB...
very cool !
is because so many of these subjects r so large ??
i'd better look in the box & see how big the W29 is...Wink [;)]

frostySmile [:)]


And here I am, gonna build a modified Felixstowe with one extra gun position behind the upper wing (see text/pix of Nr 4543 in the Windsock datafile), just to get the upper hand Big Smile [:D] ....

John
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  • From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA
Posted by rrmelend on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:54 PM
I'd love to build my PBM in 1/48th but the only one they have is a bit out of my price range...some day but not right now on a teachers salary with a wedding to pay for in a year and a house after that. This is actually my first plane not in 1/48th. Looking at the kit and instructions it will not be fun, I've never seen plastic this thick!
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jratz

QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl
pretty sure it will b the Hansa Brandenburg W29...
frostySmile [:)]


OK, Duel over the Channel !!!!
Your W29 versus my Felixstowe.
You better build two of 'em !!!
Big Smile [:D]
John


LOL, John !
no way i'll have time 2 build 2 W29s....
i'll b lucky 2 complete 1, lozenge camo & all !
u will win by default !

hey, i just noticed how many folks r building in 1/72 4 this GB...
very cool !
is it because so many of these subjects r so large ??
i'd better look in the box & see how big the W29 is...Wink [;)]

frostySmile [:)]
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    November 2005
AIRCRAFT - ''It Floats and Flies Group Build''
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

pretty sure it will b the Hansa Brandenburg W29...
i have the kit already & the timeframe should work out fine.
looking forward 2 building it !

frostySmile [:)]


OK, Duel over the Channel !!!!
Your W29 versus my Felixstowe.
You better build two of 'em !!!
Big Smile [:D]

John
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:56 PM
OK, FG, I've got you listed.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

Aurora-7:
i have a couple of a/c that would do 4 this build.
maybe i'll build the Eastern Express 1/72 Hansa Brandenburg W29,
if that's OK ?
i haven't done a lozenge camo job yet, so that would b something different...

frostySmile [:)]



That's OK, frosty. Give a post when your certain what you plan to build.


pretty sure it will b the Hansa Brandenburg W29...
i have the kit already & the timeframe should work out fine.
looking forward 2 building it !

frostySmile [:)]
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:17 AM
I like the 747 idea!
The football field idea sounds good, too. It would certainly be very impressive!
~Brian
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    December 2002
  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:58 AM
The football field settinfg maybe be unnatural but it would make a dramatic statement about the aircraft. Or maybe next to a 747 in the same scale.

 

 

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  • From: Keizer, Oregon
Posted by Model Grandpa on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:18 AM
Water is a little outside my modeling skills at this time.

I’m going to park my Hercules in the museum with a DC-3 parked under one of the wing to help show the size of the plane. I thought about parking it sideways on a scale football field. It would have each of its wing tips sticking thru the goalposts at opposite ends of the field. That just seems too un-natural of a setting.
Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:15 AM
Anyone planning on modeling any water for their water foul? Once I get the kit completed, Id' like to mount it on a base of a modeled ocean surace with the plane just above it as if it had just lifted off or was about to land.

 

 

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    April 2004
  • From: Sydney
Posted by cossack on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:54 AM
We are getting closer - this is a BUMP to keep us on the front page Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 8, 2005 9:13 PM
I was looking at the props last night to see how much repair work was required , after 1/2 hour I had them repaired so now the props aren't a problem anymoreParty [party] .
I also picked up a vac foam canopy set for the pby for a couple of bucks and the book from squadron pby catalina in action , a huge amount of info in it .

cheers mike
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Saturday, January 8, 2005 1:19 PM
Ok, Woodbeck3, I'll add you to the roster with a TBD for now.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 8, 2005 1:02 PM
I am very interested in this will look for a kit
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, January 6, 2005 2:46 PM
Thanks, Dan! I got your mail, too.
I'll probably go with the flat coat over flat aluminum, then. It ends up being a nice grayish-silvery-gray color.
I haven't seen "The Aviator" yet, but am looking forward to it. Actually, knowing that I was going to see it and knowing that I would probably get the bug to build the Goose after seeing it, I picked up the kit when I found it the other day.

Rick: Yup, looks like I'm gonna hafta!Wink [;)]
~Brian
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    January 2005
  • From: with Rommel in the desert
Posted by yukonrob on Thursday, January 6, 2005 12:21 AM
I have (somewhere) some pics I took of the plane when it was in Long Beach. My recollection is that it was white (or off-white) as stated above. I'll see if I can track them down and post them for what they're worth.
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  • From: Keizer, Oregon
Posted by Model Grandpa on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 9:59 PM
It an absolutely amazing aircraft. Howard Hughes had the Hercules painted "silver." After his passing the plane was moved form the hanger to be displayed at Long Beach, CA they had it painted white. When the Evergreen Museum restored the aircraft they painted it silver again. When you stand next to the aircraft at the museum it looks more like a medium gray. So if the museum has used the correct color your going have to be careful with how metallic you want your finish to be. It just doesn't have a "metallic" look to it.

I amaze myself sometimes, I've been to the Museum 3-4 times since September and I don't have a single picture to share, I will try to get back over and take a few before the build start. Road trip anyone? Hope this helps.

Anyone seen the movie "The Aviator" yet? Funny scene, when the "Goose" is under construction there are all these welding sparks flying, pretty good for a plane made of wood.
Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 7:30 PM
My GB record hasn't been good, either. I figure if I take the responsibilty of starting one, I'll stay consistent just to keep posting to the forum. I've got the work space set up and the camera set to go to document the progress. I've lot's of Mavis images and articles of other modelers buidls of the kit. Plus, I plan to have two other builds completed before I start this one.

 

 

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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 6:37 PM
J-Hulk actually gonna build a model Shock [:O] ? Oh be still my beating heart Big Smile [:D]. Welcome aboard Brian.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 3:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

Ah, J-meister! Welcome aboard! Is this official? Shall I add you to the roster?

I'd check direct with modelgranpa. You can't get better than someone who has access to the real thing.


Howdy, A-7!
Oooo, I'd be afraid to say "official," given my dismal track record at actually participating in GBs I've signed up for (I'm batting like 0 for 5!), but this seems like a nice, easy kit...I'm sure I can finish by May! OK, let's say I'm "in!" (Oh, the pressure...)

I'll drop Modelgranpa a line and get the "straight poop!"

Thanks!
~Brian
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 3:14 PM
Ah, J-meister! Welcome aboard! Is this official? Shall I add you to the roster?

I'd check direct with modelgranpa. You can't get better than someone who has access to the real thing.

 

 

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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 12:56 PM
Howdy, "It Floats and Flies" folks! Big Smile [:D]
I just picked up the Minicraft 1/200 HK-1/H-4 Spruce Goose, and remembered there was a flying boat group build going, so I figured ya'll were the folks to talk to. I also see that Modelgrandpa is not only building this same kit, but he also has seemingly unrestricted access to the actual aircraft at the Evergreen Aviation Museum in Oregon!

My question: what color was this aircraft? Was the birch plywood covering painted with the same kind of aluminum dope that zeppelins like the Hindenburg and Graf Zeppelin were painted with? It looks grayish-silver in all the ref pix I've seen, but Modelgrandpa mentioned it was just gray. If so, I think silver or flat aluminum overcoated with a clear flat would reproduce that grayish-silver look nicely. That's what I did on my Revell Hindenburg (flat coat over flat aluminum) and it looks pretty close to the ref pix.

What do ya'll think?
~Brian
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AIRCRAFT - ''''It Floats and Flies Group Build'''' - Feb 1st 2005 to May 1st
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 7:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cossack
If you ever get to point of wanting to see the internals, have a look at http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/sundland.html ... the pics provided are of a Clipper air liner, but I can't imagine the instrumentation would be greatly changed?


Hey, thanks, I'll check it out.
I have found two other sites & got all the pix, so I'm really in good shape, I just haven't put pencil to paper to layout out what I want to do. I'm thinkng about some major interior work & then, given that so much would be invisible (to include much of the WEM PE), to figure out some way to "open up" the hull to show it off .... Like I said, no real plan, so I'l stick with Felixstowe which I do have something worked up on ...

Everyone building a "Brit Boat" ... check out the following site !!!
seawings.co.uk


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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 5:57 AM
Anyone can welcome anyone to this build. The only exclusive thing I can do is add you name to the roster. I've put you on the list in the first post, yukonrob, and we're glad you joined.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 3:41 AM
Sign - Welcome [#welcome]aboard yukonrob ,

I've order a replacement canopy for the sutherland from squadron 20/11/04 and still waiting . I should of had it posted airmail not surface mail Banged Head [banghead] lesson learnt. I haven't heard from airfix about the problem with the broken props after e-mailing them some time back they did respond and advised me that they will look into it I , should of know better when they said that ..but thats not a problem they can be repaired with some work .

I found these sites a few months ago for the Short Sandringham Flying Boat.
http://www.users.bigpond.com/smoothp/short.htm
http://apma.org.au/reference/aircraft/sunderland/sunderland.html

cheers mike


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  • From: Sydney
Posted by cossack on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 2:25 AM
Welcome yukonrob. You will find everyone here really helpful and friendly. I can't "officially" welcome you into the Group Build, but given that I was admitted myself only three or so weeks ago, I don;t expect it will be a problem.

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