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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:57 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mgbriggs

Aurora-7

Ok I found what I am going to do . I managed to get a sutherland , airfix 1/72 ,this is the first time that I have played with airfix does anyone know if there are any problems with these kit..

mike

No problems other than the kit & moulds are about 40 years old -- check the date inside the wing halves !!! THICK plastic, crude detail. The raised rivets/lines are semi-correct, so don't go knocking them down too much. No interior details for cockpit & turrets. But not a bad kit for what it is.

You can get any/all of the WEM P/E sets (mentioned above) that just came out, but much of the cockpit/interior isn't really visible -- and I think they should have focused on also doing the crew quarters, galley, & someo f the lower areas, but that's just me. You can skip the weapons bay details if you aren't gonna show it open and you can skip the Yagi antennas if not doing an a/c with 'em. Check the link previously given to see what you really want to do. I will say the P/E sets are beautiful !!!

You can get replacement Peggies from Engines & Things -- the kit ones are really bad. You'll have to work at digging the kit engines out & fixing up the cowl, but even without extra detail, the Peggies will help the kit.

You can get vacu-form canopies/turrets from Squadron. They aren't great but are better than the thick kit ones.

You can, I believe, get replacement exhausts from two different sources but I don't remember who.

You probably can get replacement props, I can't remember the source I've used for other a/c.

You can help detail the turrets by getting 1/72 WW1 guns from Tom's Modelworks & use the "1919 Vickers".

I have all the above other than the exhausts & am trying to find space on my workbench for this -- it was my 1st thought for the build, but in 90 days, I don't think I'd finish it.

A "google" will turn up some good references.

As to a reference, there are two I know of: Warpaint Series #25 and Osprey's Sunderland Squadrons of WW2. I recommend the former if you want to tweak your kit a bit; the latter is interesting but not necessary if you have a good idea of what color/markings you will use.

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:55 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mgbriggs

Aurora-7

Ok I found what I am going to do . I managed to get a sutherland , airfix 1/72 ,this is the first time that I have played with airfix does anyone know if there are any problems with these kit..

mike

Oh, Mike are you in luck. Here's a link to an on-lin article at Armorama.com that deals with the Airfix Sunderland and a newly released PE set for it:

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=423

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:04 PM

Allright my firt Group Build. I will be building the Mach 2 PBM-5 Mariner. I've had this kit for a couple years and needed an excuse to actually build it. I'm hoping this will be my best build as I will be building it based on the plane my grandfather was in during the war.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:47 AM

Aurora-7

Ok I found what I am going to do . I managed to get a sutherland , airfix 1/72 ,this is the first time that I have played with airfix does anyone know if there are any problems with these kit..

mike Tongue [:P]

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KINGTHAD

Member since
May 2004
From: Dallas

Posted by KINGTHAD on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:34 AM

Put me down for this one but I dont know what I will build yet

Thad

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:15 AM

Aurora-7

How come of the change of the tag Confused [%-)]

the other one looked good?

mike Tongue [:P]

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:37 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bondobandit

Ok.........I'm in! Im gonna do a Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk.

Welcome, Bondobandit. I'll add you to the list. What scale is the kit and who is the manufacturer?

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:27 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mahoneymem

thanks Aurora-7. I was also wondering if anyone knows how to get the badge on my signature. I've been unable to copy it to my profile.

thanks,

mahoney

Mahoney,

Your welcome. To get the tag in your signature, take this link below

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/Aurora-7/iffgb.jpg

and paste it in the signature window of your profile maintenance screen. When you do, add the following:

in front of the link, put 'img' (without the quotes) and have it enclosed with '[' and ']' (also with no quotes).

At the end of the link add '/img' , also enlosed with '[' and ']'.

This defines the image to display instead of just a link.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:16 PM

Ok.........I'm in! Im gonna do a Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk. Smile [:)]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:05 PM

thanks Aurora-7. I was also wondering if anyone knows how to get the badge on my signature. I've been unable to copy it to my profile.

thanks,

mahoney

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Monday, October 25, 2004 11:30 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mahoneymem

I'm new to the group build forum but I'd love to join you all on this. I'll break out my Czech Models 1/48 Grumman Goose for the build. Please inform me of specifics I should know to get involved.

thanks,

mahoney

mahoney,

There are no more specifics other than what's stated in the top post. Welcome aboard!

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Model Grandpa

Member since
July 2003
From: Keizer, Oregon

Posted by Model Grandpa on Monday, October 25, 2004 10:15 PM

Don’t forget to add me to the list. I will be building Minicraft’s 1/200 scale Hughes H-4, HK-1 Hercules flying boat. I know, it a small 1/200 scale kit which only gives the model a wingspan of…19 inches.

I think the biggest challenge on the kit will be to make the overall gray finish look interesting. I may have to go sit under its wing for a couple hours for inspiration.

Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 25, 2004 9:49 PM

I'm new to the group build forum but I'd love to join you all on this. I'll break out my Czech Models 1/48 Grumman Goose for the build. Please inform me of specifics I should know to get involved.

thanks,

mahoney

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, October 25, 2004 7:04 PM

Thanks a bunch Michael. Those links are an excellent starting point.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Monday, October 25, 2004 2:24 PM

Rick,

While the internet seems to have a great deal of links to external images of the S-43, internal images are going to be hard to come by. I suggest you try to get to the source of 3 existing aircraft.

One is at the Garber facility of the Air and Space Museum. Try contacing the Garber facility to see if someone can help you.

Another is at the Pima Air and Space Museum in Tuscon Arizona.

And finally there is a flying example that was originally owned by Howard Hughs and served as a developmental aid in the 'Spruce Goose'. There are lots of images of this aircraft on the net. I'm not sure who the owner of it is now but I'm sure a little digging will reveal that. Here is one link to in flight images of that aircraft.

http://www.seawings.co.uk/sik43gal.htm

I also found this link to the Sikorsky Historical Archives: http://www.sikorskyarchives.com/index.html

I live in Connecticut, not far from where the S-43s were originally made. There is a National Helicopter museum here and it's manned by a lot of ex-Sikorsky people. I'll try to get over there some time and try to get some names of contacts that might now something about the S-43s.

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, October 25, 2004 1:19 PM

Taking a look at the Sword 1/72 Sikorsky S-43 kit to get a feel for what it will take to finish. My references on this AC are nil, so does anyone have a reference site that might include some helpful pics? My first question is on the internal color. The kit instructions call out Interior Green, which is plausable, but I'd like to confirm that before I start the build in Feb.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Quagmyre

Member since
December 2003
From: and just won't go away.

Posted by Quagmyre on Monday, October 25, 2004 12:32 PM

Cool! I've got a unique build!

Was actually gonna wait on building this one since I've gotta purchase the 1/48 Tamiya F4F Wildcat kit for the RHVP "Wild Catfish" conversion kit, but I imagine Hobby Lobby will run one of their 50% off sales between now and February 1st.

Aurora-7 - FYI - It'll be 1/48 scale. That's the only scale I build at.

Current and Subsequent Projects:
1/48 scale Tamiya P-47 "Razorback" - Complete
1/48 scale Testors/Lone Star Models PT-22 Recruit - 20% Complete
1/48 scale Monogram C-47 Skytrain - Not Started

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 25, 2004 6:46 AM

Count me in I'am not to sure of what I want to do yet , I think the sutherland or the pby-5 not to sure yet which one..
Should of started this one earlier just finished a pby-2 not to long ago , yet to put it in water but working on it .. Banged Head [banghead]

cheer mike Tongue [:P]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:14 PM

I posted this up in the airplane forum, before I saw the formal thread down here.

Feb - 1 May is OK, but tight, how about 31 May at least for fudge factor ?

Including float planes is also OK;I have the Kingfisher & Cutting Edge A/M & a lot of photos from NASM-Dulles, so that gives me a 3rd option.

Pls change my project from 1/72 Sunderland (don't think I can do in 90days) to the Felixstowe as it will be pretty much OOB, except for some added P/E detail & maybe add a gunner station to the wing. I haven't done my homework on markings vs modifications yet, so something will probably change between now & then.

John

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Model Grandpa

Member since
July 2003
From: Keizer, Oregon

Posted by Model Grandpa on Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:34 PM

The Spruce Goose it is...I was leaning that way, thanks for the imput.

Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:03 PM

Ouch, I am in the process of finishing the Savoia S21 Seaplane, will be done way prior to the Start Date. Got too many other candidates waiting for attention to attack another plane kit for a few months.

As for the choice " Spruce Goose" all the way.

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:58 PM

I say the 'Spruce Goose' -The Mother of All Flying Boats.

My second choice would be the Bv-122. I was trying to decide between that and the H6K5 'Mavis' to build.

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Model Grandpa

Member since
July 2003
From: Keizer, Oregon

Posted by Model Grandpa on Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:40 PM

First I was in, and then I was out, (remind you of any body?) now I think I’m going to get back in. I just know I can work on two projects at the same time even if one is a Vacuform kit.

Just don’t know what I want to build. The Revell Germany Bv. 222 (on sale), the HK-1 “Spruce Goose” (impressive aircraft once you’ve seen it up close) or the 1/48 scale Tamiya Aichi M6A1 Seiran with Eduard PE I have in the closet. Any help, what should I build?

Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark

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Aurora-7

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December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

AIRCRAFT - 'It Floats and Flies Group Build' - Feb 1st 2005 to Sept 30 (Gotta finish sometime!)

Posted by Aurora-7 on Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:28 PM

Welcome to the IFFGB. The sole purpose of this group build is to supply motivation to modelers in the building of a model(s) of any aircraft that can land in and take off from water. The subject can be anything from a Boeing China Clipper to a little Huey 300c with pontoons. Any scale and any building medium.

We plan to start on February 1st 2005 and end by May 1st. Get your Christmas/Channukah/Kwanza gift requests in now!

This NOT a contest so the start and stop dates are only to help us focus on our objective (many of us have several here). If you run after the stated end date, please still post images of your finished work.

Here is our tag:

I'll maintain a list here of forum members and their projects.

Member

Aurora-7....................Hasegawa 1/72 Kawanishi H6K5 flying boat 'Mavis'
swanny......................Sword 1/72 Sikorsky S-43
ipms33206...............Pro-Monogram 1/48 PBY-5A Catalina
therriman..................1/72 PBY-2
Quagmyre.......RHVP Conversion kit for a 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 to a F4F-3S Wildcatfish
Awood23...................Monogram 1/48 PBY Catalina
jratz.............................Roden 1/72 Felixstowe
rjkplasticmod...........Sword 1/72 Sikorsky S-43
roadkill_275.............Monogram 1/48 OS2U Kingfisher
tlivancso....................Italeri 1/72 C.R.D.A. Cant. Z "GABBIANO"
leemitcheltree..........Hasegawa 1/72 SP-5B Marlin
Harrowbeer..............1/72 Supermarine Walrus
ghettochild................Monogram 1/48 PBY Catalina
mahoneymem.........Czech Models 1/48 Grumman Goose
modelgrandpa.........Minicraft 1/200 Hughes H-4, HK-1Hercules -The 'Spruce Goose'
Bondobandit.............Xotic-72 1/72 Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk
Nicodemus...............Minicraft 1/144 Boeing China Clipper
rdexpress..................Something Grumman in 1/72
KINGTHAD................TBA
mgbriggs...................Airfix 1/72 Sunderland
" ".................................Academy 1/72 PBY-5A 'Black Cat'
rrmelend....................Mach 2 1/72 PBM-5 Mariner
bstrump.....................Matchbox 1/72 Twin Otter
miduppergunner.......He-115
toot_the_flute..............TBD
mats.man....................Combat Models Martin Mars
rockythegoat................Airfix 1/72 Auster Antarctica
cossack.....................Mongram 1.48 PBY-5A (maybe in RNZAF colors)
rodc............................Heller 1/72 Canadair CL-215 air tanker
yukonrob...................Tamiya 1/72 Aichi M6A1 Seiran
J-Hulk..............Minicraft 1/200 Hughes H-4, HK-1Hercules -The 'Spruce Goose'
woodbeck3...............TBD
frostygirl....................Eastern Express 1/72 Hansa Brandenburg W29
seahorse.................? Hasegawa 1/72 Kawanishi H6K5 flying boat 'Mavis' ?
rlawson....................Navy UF-1 backdated from Monogram 1/72 Albatross
CrazyModeler..........Academy 1/72 PBY-5A Black Cat
rmuhle7108......................Hasegawa 1/72 Kawanishi H8K 'Emily' flying boat
Flyingraptor.................1/72 PM-models Sptfire Mk.V Floatplane

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