Honda RC211V Group Build

I don't think there is a finish date yet. Does everyone want one? Or are you happy with the open ended thing?

Finished up on the decal job for the Pramac and Camel bikes. Will let them be for a week or two and then clear coat.
/Joel

by the way, have we decided upon a close date for this GB yet?

SeaBee; the difference lies in the part upon which the seat cowling is mounted. Don't know the name but it's the part to wich you also attach the muffler. On the racing liveries and the Tamiya model this part is black but on the pictures it has the yellow color of other cowling parts. Looks nice if you ask me but the decals is different from the ones I've applied.
About the TS-51 "racing blue" it is that paint that the instructions call for. As Pingtang sais it's a close match anyhow but be careful and apply very thin coats as it easily gets too dark.
/Joel

TS-51 is a bit of a generic colour I think. I first used it for the Telefonica Suzuki RGV-500, when it was called Telefonica blue. Then they called it Racing blue and used it for the Williams FW-24 and Telefonica RC211V. Now it's being used for the Yamaha YZR-M1 '04. I think it's too dark for most of these kits, but it's close enough so I'll use it.

Nice pics, Joel. As it happens, the colour I first had was actually spot-on. So here goes for another attempt.... strip, repaint, what's new...?!

Btw, excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the diffs between the Camel livery on the pic (which's url you enclosed above) and the normal 03 Camel livery?

And, to add, I just came back from LHS. As it happens, I bought TS51. No, not for the Telefonica ride, but for the WRC GB. But, to add to your suspicions that the hue might not be right (for at least this Telefonica model), I see TS51 is now renamed! It is no longer "Telefonica Blue" as it was when I bought my first TS51 a couple of years ago, but "Racing Blue". What colour do Tamiya prescribe in their instructions?

If I hadn't started the decalling of the Camel bike I would definately go for this livery. Think it looks gorgeous with the seat part painted yellow instead of black.

http://www.onetwelvth.com/tips/referens/rcv03/camel03%20biaggi%20right.jpg

/Joel

[hubris mode on] Woohaa, I'm model god!!! Henry Ford would be proud of me as I'm making RCV engines like a maniac...[hubris mode off]

Well, what I wanted to say was that the three engines are coming together nicely, yesterday I stripped the frame and swing arm and painted it AlcladII polished aluminum. I've painted the rims but sort of diluted the paint to much so the spokes came out too dull. Decalling is almost done on the fairings of the Camel and Pramac bikes. The Telefonica one has to wait as I don't like the hue of the TS-51 color. Will strip it and repaint. My TS-17 can splashed all over so I'll airbrush the radiator instead.

SeaBee: Both repsol and telefonica machines of 2003 seems to use a darker shade of brown while camel seems to have a bit lighter colored tri clamp. As Pingtang sais it's probably changed during the season so go for something that looks good.
Take a look at my references that I posted earlier, think you can manage to see some of it there.
best regards
Joel

Looking good shroomy.

seabee-Any dark sort of copper colour will be close. The colour looks different in just about every pic I've seen.

I must say, this is my first RC211V and this thing just goed together great! One of the best fits I have yet seen on a bike model! Just added the radiator, front suspension will be next victim.

Quick question: what is the colour of that top part (between handlebars) for these guys? Doing Max's 2003 ride... I have both colours Tamiya subscribe to mix, but one in acrylic and one enamel! So much for that mix...At this stage I started using a Metalizer Burnt Iron, a very dark brown-black with a bit of a coppery undertone. Close enough?

just for pintang :)

and this is two days :)

lol @ pingtang
as soon as i can learn to use a camera i will get em up :(
just been to my modelling club monthly meet and chatting to tony greenland getting some good tips for my stuff i have been building he is pointing me in the right direction :)

Thanks for the compliments guys, been away a few days myself.. My pics have been deleted, so I will have to re-post them at some stage.. I got the 1 decal done on my Camel bike, and well, thats as far as I have gotten on it... I think building the Repsol one so fast has taken it out of me? hehehe

Chris in Japan

I've been away for a few days, so I haven't done any work on my RC211V. I'll get back into now though.

Welcome to the build shroomy. Can't wait to see some of your work.

You guys are SOOO far ahead of me! I'm still not done with my V-22 (not a bike but still interesting), and I've got to head to NC next week. Oh well, maybe the LHS there will have the CF decals I also haven't gotten yet! You're right Mitchgixer, good thing we're not against the clock.

Hi Guys

How are we all getting on with the build? I just started my Valencia bike today. Got most of the engine parts painted up and awaiting assembly. Still waiting on the sprays I need from the shop as well as some more C/F decal sheets. Might have to put the build on hold till I get them but I will carry on with what I can do in the mean time. Just as well we're not against the clock eh?

On another matter I got a digital camera as a christmas present so I will be able to get some progress pics on here for all to see. Thats if I can figure out how to download them off the camera as I dont have a PC at home just now!

Have fun modeling folks.

thank you for the welcome :)
thats good as this is my first step into bikes :) and it will be straight out the box so hopefully shouldnt be too hard lol

Ah, let me be the one to welcome you! We're growing! Good stuff.

As far as I know, there is not a set completion date, as we are all in various stages of commitment. I am 60% through one, but will be starting another one directly after that. So at this stage it's an open-ended informal sharing and learning session.

hiya guys
got me a tamiya repsol honda rc211v '03 1/12th
is this ok and how long we got to build it ?:)6 months hopefully :)

Naah, there's no rules! Not in the GB, not in modeling. You will find the purists hunting you down a bit - too bad. If there's not one checking your display cabinet carefully, they'll never know the exhaust, etc. is that of the 03 bike, most people only note the colourscheme.

Looks good, though! Better paint job than on my current Camel one! Starting the front end of that one tonight, btw.

Chris, I think your bike looks awesome. It looks a lot better than my first bike did. The paint job looks very nicely done and the finish is very smooth. Thanks for sharing.

An update on my build. I have built and painted most of the engine and painted and decalled some of the bodywork. All is going well at the moment, and I might have some progress pics up soon.

Hope to see some pics of everyone elses builds soon.

Hi Chris!
Don't beat yourself up, I think your bike looks great.
Regarding doing the 2004 livery there is no rule. Build however you like as long as it makes you happy. This GB is also only a RC211V GB so I can't see why you shouldn't be able to do it as you like.
When it comes to realism thats another thing, then you should have done some more work to cowlings, front fender, swing arm, exhaust etc to get it right but hey, I think it looks good.
best regards
Joel

Sorry I havnt been around.. But I have been on the build with a few projects...

Well I got so excited with this build, I actually finished it.. But Then had to run out and buy another to add to it!.. I did the 2003 Repsol Bike with the added metal parts.. Problem is, I did it in the 2004 colors.. Is that cool, or is that breaking the rules?...

Anyways, I am in the middle of doing the Camel bike.. But have needed a rest after applying one decal.. hahahaha

I have added a few pics of my Repsol bike.. ps.. This was the first bike I have ever built.. So I was flying blind.. I just wished I could do these bikes like some of you better guys!





Chris in Japan

Thanks for the heads up mate. I don't remember having any problems like that when I painted my 2002 RC211V. I sprayed the Blue second and the orange first. I'll mask it off this time anyway though.

Well okay, that did not take too long! It was Eric Evain's page, very nice link to have anyways, but here is the RC211V diary, for those interested.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/eric.evain/rc211v_diary.htm

Yamahafreak: The one thing I've read somewhere on a site (and I'll have to go and look for it) where somebody built that version, it was stated that the instructions said to paint the orange first on an overlapping (as far as paint is concerned) part.That causes the blue to turn green, due to the intensity of the orange.

I might have gotten it the wrong way around and the orange might be the second colour and that was the one discolouring. Bottom line: there was a stern warning to mask those areas and not overlap the paint.

Anyone who did it had similar problems? I will try and find the site and confirm...

Im in!
Doing Rossi valencia edition and Seth Telefonica Movistar

Re9za

Mitchgixer6- I like using Tamiya's TS-29 semi-gloss, mostly because I get too lazy to get the airbrush out. It gives just as good a finish as an airbrush anyway, and a lot better than brushing.

Yamafreak- Like mitchgixer6 said, the decals aren't the greatest in the world. It's worth spraying some white underneath where the white decal sections on the cowl go. The decals are pretty transparent and show the orange. Also, make sure you don't spray to thick a clear coat over them. I ruined a set by spraying Tamiya TS-13 clear on too thick (that's why my last one turned out as a west bike ). The kit builds up exactly the same as the '03 version with different cowl panels and some detail differences.

Either 1/20 or 1/24 scale carbon fibre decals would look fine. I used 1/12 decals on my '02 RC211V and they do look slightly out of scale. Scalemotorsport are the only ones that I've used, and they are easy to use. You just might need something a little stronger than microsol to make them conform to curvy surfaces.

Joelwideqvist- Great reference pics mate, Thanks.

Yamafreak

I have some C/F decals from http://www.scalemotorsport.com/
Very easy to use for a first timer and plenty of it to experiment with. In terms of the scale I would recommend 1/24 for a 1/12 bike. I used 1/12 for my last build (NSR500) and although it looks ok it is definatley a little too big. I posted on here for some thoughts and all the replies pointed towards the 1/24. I'm gonna buy some for my Valencia build. As for the 2002 build I think it should be pretty similar to the 2003 kits you have done allready. I'm the other way round, finished a 2002 and now doing a 2003. Think the actual assembly should be very similar. As for the decals I had a little trouble with the side "Repsol" ones, but that was before I discovered Microsol! I also found the white on this portion of the bike was a little transparent.

Joel

Excellent pics mate. Thanks very much.

Hello all,

I've done three RCVs so far (Telefonica, Repsol, Biaggi/Camel), all '03 versions. I'll be tackling Rossi's '02 Repsol for this build. Anything I need to look out for in this version? I saw on one site that the decals can be a pain (don't want to talk about the problems with the Telefonica's I had) and they changed to the '03. Also, who has the best C/F decals out there? I'm looking at using 1/20 maybe considering some comments I've read on how 1/12 looks on these bikes. Also, awesome reference pics, Joel!

For reference pictures for the ´02 and ´03 rcv:s you can have a look at my web site. I've collected some during my own builds. Some are good others are not...
The actual page is burried deep down at my swedish web so here's a direct link.
http://www.onetwelvth.com/tips/referens/referens.htm
best regards
Joel