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North African GB "All Subjects" (Start NOW - Finish 31st of Oct)

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:46 PM
I for one am wary of arguing with a mad cow... voice of experience....

I'm not speaking of Kremps either... Wink [;)]

I'm excited... my little play with the pastel chalks worked out well but needs a little touch up.. I mixed ochre and red earth chalks to make a kind of brownish mix and went to town brushing all over the martlet.... the effect? wind swept dust and sand. It is a little overstated at present but I am taking faith in Swanny's article on them and leaving them because the future overcoat will tone them down... pictures at 11... (i.e. tomorrow)

Got the gear on the Martlet, painting the spinner on the prop. I think I will go ahead and attach the drop tanks as I usually don't do that (IPMS be damned!!!!) just for kicks... I need to find some He decals as this IS Kremps plane and she had helium filled tanks for airworthiness due to her weight!!!
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:06 PM
Dave, Very nice work on the pit. I agree that the Academy kit is a little jewel, only let down by the crap decals.

BTW, you can have your steak any way you like it, as long as it's well done. Can't risk Mad Cow now can we Smile [:)].

Regards, Rick
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Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:05 PM
Nice job guys, Karl, Dave and Tom. I kinda wish I had gotten in on this build but I'm busy enough as it is. I love the "K" martlet Tom. I agree with who ever mentioned a Kremps build! a tribute to the inspiration of Happy Acres!

Dave looking good! ugh so small! I'm about to find out what 1:72 is like. I'm starting my Beaufighter TF.X (aka "Canadian GB pre-build") soon and since the Airfix kit is pretty sparse, I gotta do some scratching. Tongue [:P]
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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:00 PM
Rick I like my Rib eye steaks Medium well done! Big Smile [:D]

Dave

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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:57 PM
Tom Good progress on Kremps. I'll have to give those oils a try some day.

Managed to gets lots done on my 1/72 P-51A the last couple of days. It's ootb except the masking tape belts. Weathering is a mix of pastels and enamel washes. I love these Academy kits for the amount of detail in 1/72. Just wish they would do something about their decals.



Dave

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:04 PM
Haven't made much progress on the Hs-129. Cleaning up a few other builds. Hope to get the pit done this weekend, if I can find time in between cookouts.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:21 AM
Darren - I use the same thinner and paints as you... and feel the same about them!

Karl - yup... 190 proof at the flick of a switch!

Daniel - never thought of it that way but I bet you're right... of course she might have had helium in them to lessen the load!

Rick - re: Kremps ears... I think that came from the time she got stuck in the photo booth at the mall. 911 tried to pull her out by her ears. Wink [;)]
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:12 AM
Tom Looks even better from those angles. And, I reckon you should stick those drop tanks on it. Even if they weren't full of moonshine (Big Smile [:D]), she would've needed all the fuel she could get to make the range of the aircraft acceptable. You know all that extra weight would reduce the range of the thing, she'd never get home without them.

Well.....that's my theory, and I'm sticking by it.Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:39 AM
Is it too late to join in this build?
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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:12 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by darson

Karl sorry I forgot to mention yesterday, the Semovente is looking great. With the wheels, are you pre-shading the entire wheel in the tire "rubber" color, then masking off the rubber portion and just Gunze H79ing the inner portion of the wheel? I didn't quite get what you were saying.



Darren Got it in one mate. Spent Monday night cutting out circular masks from masking tape and applying them to the wheelsSad [:(] Don't mind the number of wheels, but do they have to be so small!

Tom Go with those drop tanks, you know Kremps would have had them full of moonshine!

Karl

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Posted by darson on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:58 PM
Karl sorry I forgot to mention yesterday, the Semovente is looking great. With the wheels, are you pre-shading the entire wheel in the tire "rubber" color, then masking off the rubber portion and just Gunze H79ing the inner portion of the wheel? I didn't quite get what you were saying.

Tom, I use Windsor & Newton Artist oils myself and my preferred thinner is Artists White Spirits (Turpenoid). I think they make an excellent combo, what brand of paints are you using?

Cheers
Darren
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:57 PM
Rick - I know... Wink [;)] I will get some tomorrow. I spent the evening assebling and painting the undercarriage and some other fiddly bits. I want to get her "on her feet" then take out the photo cube and get some shots with the lamps and all... I drybrushed the rivets showing through the decals tonight as well and am to the point I really feel I can finish by the weekend. There are only maybe 2 or 3 parts still on the trees....

I am debating putting the drop tanks on. I might just because the last one didn't have them. Problem is the wildcat Martlet looks fat enough as it is without the bulbuous drop tanks attached!
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:28 PM
Tom, That's not exactly what I had in mind Disapprove [V].

Speaking of angles, did you ever take a look at Kremps ears ? I really think she has some Vulcan blood. Big Smile [:D].

Regards, Rick
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:13 PM
Rick - anything for you old friend! here you go! The pic from different angles!





Wink [;)]

Darren - the main differences are acrylics are much easier to wash off if you mess up, but the oils stay flowable for much longer allowing adjustments and further blending. For me the flexibility of going back several hours later, noticing a spot I wanted to change and doing it was nice!! Also they flowed well with the rag and brush creating the streaking effect on the undersides (better pic later)

Daniel thanks! I have a way to go to perfect it but I really enjoyed using them!

Tanky - Blush [:I] such language from such a pristine member of our modeling community! Wink [;)] Thanks!!!!
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by darson on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:14 AM
Lovely oil work there Tom, it's very subtle and very effective, nice one Thumbs Up [tup]

I've never used acrylics for a wash myself, what's the main difference?

Cheers
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Posted by pingtang on Monday, June 27, 2005 9:43 PM
Looks like you've got those oils working well for you Tom. Good to see you finally caved in to Ricks the other forum members pressure. Good to finally see a pic of this oil weathering you've raving about. Keep up the good work.Thumbs Up [tup]

edit.....my spelling was crappyWink [;)].
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, June 27, 2005 9:20 PM
Looks good Tom, very nice work. Could you post a few more pics from other angles ?

Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

Regards, Rick
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, June 27, 2005 8:41 PM
tom, the oil work looks goddamn AMAZING!!!!!
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, June 27, 2005 8:31 PM
ok... so ****RICK**** someone here on the forum doesn't mercilessly pick at me for not posting photos I took a quicky snapshot of the bottom of my Martlet... you can see somewhat of the work I have done with the artists oils and the incredible shine of the Future killing your eyes with the flash... It was a quicky and I will try to get more as I go with the nuetral lamps but I am too tired for that tonight... I just wanted to partially fulfill Ricks someone on this forums insatiable need for update pics!!! Wink [;)]

BTW: I told you my battery was charged, Mr. He Who Must Remain Nameless Whistling [:-^] Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]



---edit---

My stomach was in such knots worrying about the person(s) I referred to laying in to me I forgot to include the pic!


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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, June 27, 2005 8:16 PM
good goimg Karl! I can't wait to see that lil tank with some progress in it!!

As far as the reno racer, yeah... in retrospect Jules pic might have looked better. I am thinking of taking a mix of the two colors, and the rest thinner and LIGHTLY mist the entire model once I am done (uppersurfaces only) to blend the two colors... I've seen it done and it reduces the extreme diff between the two.. well... I may wait... the decals are one thing that contribute to that effect as they are so bright.. we'll see later in the build what it looks like..
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, June 27, 2005 8:07 PM
Looking good Karl. Keep up the good work Smile [:)]

Regards, Rick
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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, June 27, 2005 1:31 PM
Tom The Martlett is looking good.

I see what you mean about the Reno racer look though!

Looking forward to seeing it weathered up.

As for me I spent the weekend cleaning up the bogie wheels of the Semovente, all 36 of them!!!!!!! See the picture below;



I was going to paint the wheels on the sprue then take them off for tyre painting. As it was i decided to pre-shade, therefore I needed to take all the wheels off the spue and clean them up, before putting each one on a cocktail stick for painting. All of this was decided at 11.00 Saturday night, and seemed like a good idea at the time!!!!!

Anyway, Sunday saw pre-shading applied, and a first few tentative coats of Gunze H79.



In the back ground you can see the wheels being masked ready for painting. This time I've put them in pairs as they will be when complete, and I'll only be masking and painting the outer faces.

No wonder armour modellers all get that look.Wink [;)]

Karl

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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, June 27, 2005 6:49 AM
oh definitely Rick... this late in the game I'm not taking chances!!! Besides, there's a ton left to do before I clear coat... This experimenting thing is taking root here..... just can't let it get out of control or I'll lose interest or something!
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:05 PM
Tom, just remember that oils take a lot longer to dry than acrylics, although overnight is probably long enough for a thin wash. Still, I usually wait till the second day to topcoat. Better safe than sorry.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:01 PM
Rick - agreed, admittedly that was a foolhardy thing to say (me... exagerrate???) but I like the slightly worn look it gave the plane without having to go all out to weather... I used the Turpenoid (which tastes good with lime, I may add! Wink [;)]) to wipe it off the fuselage and it slightly deepened the paint color er... maybe not deepened, but made it look less "bright and shiny" It will be interesting to see what it does when I dullcoat as I rubbed and I rubbed good! (Kinda like when I give Kremps a back rub... but good is never good enough for HER!! Sad [:(])

Anyway will post pics tomorrow as MY battery is freshly charged now!!! Wink [;)]
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:00 PM
Tom, Keep the acrylics, they will still come in handy now & then. But I agree that the oils can give a very nice effect. I prefer to thin with Mineral Spirits, but Turpenoid works as well.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:02 PM
ok news flash!!!! Free: several tubes of artists acrylics to good home.....

I tried the artists oil and LOVE it! I mixed lamp black and burnt umber with turperntine substitute and went to town... I wiped it down one section at a time and wiped it off with a super absorbent (mechanics type) paper towel. On the wing bottoms where there were a lot of protuberances I then wiped in the direction of wind travel and now have a slight streaking from soot and dust where it travels over these outcroppings. Then a soft wide brush took the streak backwards and thinner... I am sure I could do better but for the first time it rocks!!

Pictures tonight or tomorrow!

Dave - no worries about road-kill pie. Kremps has been watching Oprah a lot and has decided to go vegetarian... she does a mean pine bark casserole I tell you!!! Wink [;)]
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Posted by razordws on Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:33 PM
Tom "Kremps" is looking good (um... I mean your model is looking good. I wouldn't want her going all sweet on me and having to eat her 'road kill pie' again)

Bob I'm building the 1/72 scale Academy North Africa kit of the P-51. I look forward to seeing your build up. Looks like you're getting the hang of the airbrush, I know what you mean about figuring out how much paint to mix up. Can be frustrating at times.

Dave

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:57 PM
Daniel - thanks! I will print out the nose art this afternoon and probably put it on tomorrow. Wanna give the ink 24 hours to dry. The decal paper has been relaxing twixt the pages of my CCNA study guide for a few days to get the curl out.

Tanky - thanks!!!
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:31 AM
Looks great Tom!!!
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