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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:15 AM

Darren - no prob! I've been too busy to model and have only been able to monitor the forum lately because of work... I appreciate you helping me out though!

Bob - you've been around the usual suspects long enough to know that someone says GB and magically it appears! Wink [;)]

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:01 AM

....so this is how these things get started... Wink [;)]

Bob

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:35 AM

How about a twin engined GB?

Especially with that Hasegawa Ju 88 due soon.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:46 PM

Hmmm now Bob there's a thought and given that I have a really nice 1/72 Hasegawa B-25J sitting in my stash I'd be a definite starter for a GB.

Cheers

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:16 PM

...or you could always start your own GB Bob!!!

Dave

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:11 PM

Bob, you know if you wait, another "must do" GB will come along, pushing the B-25 even further down the list, unless the B-25 will fit in one. Wink [;)]

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:08 AM

Darren-no problem (and no hurry) my friend. I haven't touched plastic myself for three weeks. Too many activities at the moment. The B-25 is going to be a big project-very impressive kit (Accurate Miniatures). I want to do this one up right, so I'm waiting for a good time to start (after all other GB committments have been fullfilled).

Bob

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Dave23

Member since
May 2006
From: Oklahoma

Posted by Dave23 on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:52 AM

Yeah, I ended up not applying them last night as most of the photos I have where the underside of the wings are visible didn't show them. Makes you wonder why they left them off the early schemes.

-dave

-d

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:11 PM

Dave I agree with you that the underwing roundels look so much better as they break up the monotone finish. However all of the reference shots that I have seen show no roundels underwing for 610 Sqdn.

At the end of the day though it's your model and who's going to know Wink [;)] .

Tom & Bob, I'm sorry but I haven't got your reference material away yet, it's just that I've worked the last 12 days straight and it looks like another weekend of work coming up as well. Needless to say I haven't done a lot of modeling lately.

Cheers

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Dave23

Member since
May 2006
From: Oklahoma

Posted by Dave23 on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:42 PM

No particular aircraft in this case, just 610 Squadron in general. Looks better with the roundels on the underside to me, so I may go that direction.

Thanks!

-dave

-d

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:58 AM

You are right, some aircraft did and some didn't have the roundels on the underside. Is there a specific spitfire you are doing? What is your preference? since it varied so much, not just between units but also between aircraft within units, I would choose a subject you want and go with that.

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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Dave23

Member since
May 2006
From: Oklahoma

Posted by Dave23 on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:14 AM

I'm to the point of applying decals to my Spitfire MK I, but have encountered a conflict on markings between some of my reference material and need to ask a question. Modeling to represent early 610 Squadron aircraft, my reference materials differ on the underside markings. Some photos/illustrations show roundels on the underside of the wings, some do not. Anybody know for sure whether or not roundels were present on the underside of the aircraft?

Thanks,
-dave

-d

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:57 AM

Karl - looks good! I actually got an idea and will try to do my He111 in the all black undersides as shown at the bottom of that decal sheet... I was impressed with the offerings by check six... maybe they'll decide to carry them over on our side of the pond one day!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:53 AM

Tom, it's the AIMS set I'll be using.

See the link below for a review;

http://decals.kitreview.com/decals/aims72d101decalreviewgp_1.htm

Not sure what's on the previous 2 sheets, but might be worth a look.

I ordered the Eduard masking set for this build, along with the TD wheels. Anything for an easy life, call me lazy. Wink [;)]

Dave, I've made a note about the wheel wells, I hadn't realised they were handed either!

Tanky, belated Happy B-Day [bday]

!!!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, June 9, 2006 6:36 PM

got a bit done today, the fuselage is finally closed, I'll snap pics in the morning before I start sanding. It looks like little if any filler will be needed but we will see. The rest of the build is mostly a snap from here until I get to the masking which I think will take me an evening just to get the tape on. For some reason I used to like doing sharp edged camo... now????

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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superbear

Member since
February 2003
From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Posted by superbear on Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:03 PM

Dave Yup definetly have to be faster with the tape next time. I'm sorry to hear your still feeling yukky hopefully you'll doge the next CPR express train Smile [:)]

One of my LHS has the same one Karl showed us I think it's going for 38$ cdn (I could be wrong on the price) so if all goes well i should have it in my grubby paws by the end of the month or sooner if i give in to the dark side of the bear Big Smile [:D] .

Cheers

Bear

Marc

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, June 8, 2006 6:14 PM

Karl - who makes the decal set for the He111 you were speaking of? I'm interested inthat as I have had good and bad experiences with Hasegawa decals...

Dave - I think I am going to install the windows with guns attached then cut off the barrels, OR just not glue the ones with guns as well and use some sort of needle or such to pop them out and put the guns in before replacement.

After looking into it, it looks possible to do a He111-H4 from the H6 boxing, the weapons would be right (flexible, forward facing 20mm) and the only other big (i.e. noticable to me) difference is the powerplant size.. I'm doing the H6 and calling it an H4, and if all else, just PRETEND the anamolies don't exist haha...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Thursday, June 8, 2006 1:04 PM

Bear: Too bad about the masking tape confiscation. You'll need to work a little faster next time. Thanks for the get well wish but unfortunately I feel like I got ran over by a freight train this morning.

As for the He 111 Hasa kit I built the H-6 version (which is not correct for this time frame) and it was a pleasure to put together except I still managed to muck it up. I snipped the wheel wells out with the wings and didn't mark them, ended up instaling them in the wrong wings. Didn't notice until I went to put the landing gear on. Doh!!!

Dave

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superbear

Member since
February 2003
From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Posted by superbear on Thursday, June 8, 2006 9:31 AM

Karl thanks for the link, very informative looking forward to your feed back. I definitly want to add that version to the stach.

Cheers

Bear

Marc

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Tankmaster7

Member since
August 2004
From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, June 8, 2006 9:06 AM

thanks for the happy birthdays all.

-Tanky

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:46 AM

Marc, I'm not starting mine till I finish the two Nieuports for the Allied Aces GB, which should be next week some time. Then I'll let you know.

Here's review by Joe Youngerman,. who also posts on this forum....

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/luft/youngerman111.htm

Looks like a fairly straightforward build.

If you're looking for a cheaper option, the Revell boxing of the H-6 kit is about £6 cheaper in the UK! Just make sure you're not getting the old Italeri kit in a Revell box.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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superbear

Member since
February 2003
From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Posted by superbear on Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:03 AM

Dave It's most definitly pattern A till the ministry of garage doors aka Mrs Bear confiscated the masking tape and handed me the mahogany Big Smile [:D] . I hope your feeling better today, take care.

Karl/Dave & any other who's built the Hasa 111P how is it for fit etc i've got it lined up in my sights if the funds permit at the end of the month any info is appreciated.

Cheers

Bear

Marc

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 3:51 PM

OOO!!!! Excelent choice Karl! I really enjoyed that build for last years BoB. I also like your idea for adding the guns after the paint.

TOM and now Karl too: If I remember correctly I ended up adding the guns after painting my He 111 by working through the upper gunners position. (All except the nose gun of course. I simply repainted that afterwards.) Anyway, if you practise you'll find that with a good set of tweezers you can reach all the rear guns position from the hole in the topside of the He 111. A little white glue on the guns, poke them through their hole and your done.

I am home playing sick today after having a bad fever last night from a chest cold. I am feeling much better this afternoon so I am off to work on the JU 290 for the Atlantic GB.

Tanky: Happy Birthday!! 16 wow!

Dave: Nice pit, looking forward to more pics.

Bear: Is the garage door in standard Camoflauge pattern A or B?

Dave

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 1:54 PM

OK, who's a sucker for dramatic box art then?

Whistling [:-^]

............that would be me.

Picked this up at the LHS today....

I'll still probably do the CR42, but this just looked so dramatic, especially after watching the opening sequence to Narnia.

What do you mean there are no He 111s in C.S.Lewis' work?

Not sure if I'll go with the KG27 scheme in the box, or get the AIMs He111 part 3 sheet.

Decisions, decisions!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 8:08 AM

Tom, I had the same problem with the guns on the Greif.

I ended up cutting the barrels off where they enter the glazing, just glueing the stock end into the glazing.

Once all the paintwork was done, I just went around and glued all the barrels back on.

Much easier, and a lot less stressful.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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superbear

Member since
February 2003
From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Posted by superbear on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:09 AM

Happy Birthday Tanky Happy B-Day [bday]

Dave23 Nice work on the spit looking forward to more piccs

Nil progress to report on the Hurricane however the garage door & wood panels on the front of the house are stained Smile [:)] & Mrs Bear is happy. I still have to fill the gap in the wing roots then I can start painting. They're calling for rain this weekend who knows i may get some model time in.

Cheers

Bear

Marc

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 7:13 PM

Joe - you mentioned some ES decals for a 1/72 Emil? I'd be more than happy to liberate some from you... which set are they? I bought the Academy Bf-109 for this and while passable, their decals leave something to be desired...

Dave - great looking cockpit!!! and don't worry about the glue, I'm a few PE sheets ahead of you but not much better on the glue bit. I'm getting better at hiding the CA than using it more effectively... Wink [;)]

Darren - I saw that Do-335 interior set as well, I might wait and see your go at it before I throw caution to the wind haha..

I'm on break tonight from modeling. We just started 4-10 shifts and my body is adjusting a bit.. I got the rest of the PE in the He111 cockpit and am just waiting to close her up. I am debating on putting the side glass in before I close her to prevent an accident and a piece falling inside after it is already closed. I have the Black Magic masks for this kit which include the side glass so I think it might be smarter. I have to think it through and maybe leave of the glass with the gun ports on it to prevent breaking a MG.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 3:27 PM

Happy Birthday Tanky Cool [8D] . I sorta remember when I was 16 Smile [:)] .

Ditto on the Aires detail sets. Very nice castings, fitting them into the molded parts is usually a challenge. Not impossible, just a lot of extra work.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 2:28 PM

Hey happy belated Birthday Tanky Party [party]

, I don't remember what 16 was like anymore... even though I am almost twice your age, I turn the big 3-oh next month.

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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Tankmaster7

Member since
August 2004
From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 2:09 PM

darson wrote:
Joe & Tanky, I'm not an expert with Aires resin sets but I was thinking of getting their cockpit for the Do-335. Is the fit that bad that they are unusable?

Dave your PE work looks just fine from where I'm sitting and as for the glue, a small dab with a flat coat should hide that.

Cheers

I've used a few of their sets and the fit is uniformly horrendous.

But they are not unusable at all. You just need to have lots of patience. The detail on these sets is astounding, and they are extremely well cast. The sets will fit in the kit they are meant for with enough work, and I've never had it where they physcially are impossble to fit. (It may seem like it, but it reall is possible. Wink [;)]

)

For example, the aires gunbays Im using on my spitifre did not fit in the wing at first, and when inserted lifted the wings apart by about 1/8 of an inch. I measure the interior space of the wings and the height of the gunbay and found that there is enough space- by less than half a millimeter- but there is. Even after extensive sadning, the wings have to be flexed over the gunbays and tenaxed, but it will work.

Sorry for the long winded response- I'm getting talkative in my old age (I just turned 16 yesterday) Wink [;)]

-Tanky

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