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erush

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May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Thursday, December 25, 2003 2:35 PM

WhiteWolf, no camera tricks or mirrors involved. Some p/e is silver colored and some is brass colored. Mine's silver.

Box1, Thanks! Not real bolts but copper wire with p/e nuts folded and glued on. It's quiet a kit that's for sure. I definitely wouldn't go all out like this on a full option and run it around the yard!

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, December 26, 2003 12:21 AM

Eric, that is nuts!
Beautiful!
Amazing!
Glad I'm not gonna do it!

Don't the instructions recommend filling all the nuts and whatnot with solder?

~Brian

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Dwight Ta-ala

Member since
July 2003
From: Philippines

Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Friday, December 26, 2003 2:17 AM

That's definitely amazing, Eric. Such details....
Yo da man!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 26, 2003 2:53 AM

Erush

Did you say FOLDED!!!![:0] now that is just mad, just how long did one hatch take you?

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Friday, December 26, 2003 6:36 AM

Brian, yeah they recommend filling with solder on some of them, I've just used CA to fill mine so far. What's the latest on your BMP? project Brian? Are you going to get it done on time and get started on your Tiger?

Dwight, Thank you Blush [:I]

Box1, That hatch took me about 4 days, when I wasn't feeling my best. The nuts are simple to fold actually, 10 seconds and it's done. The hard parts are rolling the hinges and stuff like that. It can take a while but it sure adds to the detail of the kit.

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 26, 2003 7:43 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by WhiteWolf McBride

Silver?

Did it come direct from Aber, or was it second-hand? Both my full set and loose frets were copper...

I ask as someone may have stuffed the pieces from a wave solder process.

Maybe Aber did that to the first ones, then gave up.

Mine came direct from Aber.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:24 PM

.............that let's me out....jeffl

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:17 PM

Mine was copper color.

By the way, I'm back Evil [}:)]

Been doing lots of family stuff over the holidays but, now back to building!

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, December 29, 2003 7:14 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by erush
What's the latest on your BMP? project Brian? Are you going to get it done on time and get started on your Tiger?

BMP is rolling right along! I'll have that baby done in time, no problem.
And lemme tell ya, even if I do every bit of the Aber set (mine was silver, by the way), it's gonna be a breeze compared to this Skif kit! It's coming out nicely, but man...the best thing about this build is that my skills are increasing exponentially!

I'll definitely be ready for the big kitty!

~Brian

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Monday, December 29, 2003 8:52 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

BMP is rolling right along! I'll have that baby done in time, no problem.
And lemme tell ya, even if I do every bit of the Aber set (mine was silver, by the way), it's gonna be a breeze compared to this Skif kit! It's coming out nicely, but man...the best thing about this build is that my skills are increasing exponentially!

I'll definitely be ready for the big kitty!

Sounds like you're getting a crash course Brian! So do we get a sneak peek before you publish or is it allowed?

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 8:43 AM

Gotta wait till the mag's out before I can share!
Goodness gracious, I'd sure like to show ya, though!
I've been taking pix along the way, which I'll show ya'll later, too.

Wheeeeeeee-doggie, it's a sassy li'l kit!

~Brian

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:46 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by erush

QUOTE: Originally posted by latch66

Sanity is Highly Overrated!

Yes it is and that's why I finished up the periscope for the driver's hatch
here's a couple views.

Eric

eric:
ohmigosh!!!!
Bow [bow]

i stand humbled before ur skill & artistry.
looking at that assembly is like viewing a miniature landscape...
i am very impressed, 2 say the least Bow [bow]

u rule, dude !
frosty Smile [:)]

(altho' i'm proud 2 b an erica after seeing that !) LOL !

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 1, 2004 3:35 AM

Eric,

That is a spectacular piece of work. It is impressive to see what can be made from the Aber kit. I saw that somebody asked the question about the color of his kit as being silver, mine is brass color. I just picked up the Etch Mate at Mission Hobbies and have yet to order the tracks from Kenny. Now that I'm back from Tucson (Christmas) I have to get on it. I still am dithering about whether to get the parts to update the turret. The more pictures I look at the more I like the May '43 build tigers.

Irontrail
P.S. I thoughtfully broke my digital camera at work. It's on its way to the repair shop so I can't take any pictures of my progress. I may wait for it to come back.
P.P.S. How would I go about posting pictures so that others may follow the progress? Understanding that I can barely pull the lever and get a banana.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 1, 2004 5:14 AM

Eric
How did you get such good close up and in focus pic's of your hatches?

When i try close up pic i cant get the camara in focus?!?!? Angry [:(!]

Its a Cannon Ixus V2, not a cheap one so it should be ok!!! I'm just not very good with takin pics Sad [:(]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 1, 2004 8:05 AM

Well, Happy New Year to all!

Sorry it took so long, erush but, the site is updated with your pics.

I see that, you will have more coming my way!

That is just plain awesome Bro! Tongue [:P]

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Thursday, January 1, 2004 8:33 PM

Thanks all! It was some work to get the hatch machanism and the periscope all done and then get it to fit also, had to do some modifying here and there. I did go back and make the periscope functional so it can be opened and the persiscope halves removed. I figured it was the best way to be able to get some mylar or something inside for the lenses after I paint.

Eric, I'm not complaining. I appreciate all the work you do on your site for us!! Take your time bro! Big Smile [:D]

I'll send those last 2 pics as soon as I get this post done.

Happy New Year to everyone!!

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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Keyworth

Member since
January 2003
From: NE Georgia

Posted by Keyworth on Thursday, January 1, 2004 9:46 PM

Eric, great work on the scopes!

"There's no problem that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives"

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Thursday, January 1, 2004 9:51 PM

Thanks Ed!!

Box 1, meant to answer your question, I just played with my camera till I figured out what it likes, I actually back off a bit and then zoom in a little and it does better on mine. Just try some different things to see what yours likes, and good lighting is esential with a digital for close ups.

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 2, 2004 8:44 AM

QUOTE: I'll send those last 2 pics as soon as I get this post done.

Pics added!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 2, 2004 6:10 PM

Someones got a little to much time on their hands...... jokin. Tongue [:P]

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mark956

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February 2003
From: USA

Posted by mark956 on Saturday, January 3, 2004 11:22 PM

Looking very good Eric.
mark956

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okieboy

Member since
July 2003
From: USA

Posted by okieboy on Monday, January 5, 2004 1:11 PM

Words pretty much fail to do ya'lls work justice, so I'll just say "Wow!" I've been away on vacation the last two weeks and I come back to some really terrific work. Way to go fellas.

Okie

"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." George Orwell

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Monday, January 5, 2004 9:45 PM

Since this is going to show that I posted I'll let y'all know I was just re-linking the photos that survived Ron's scourge of the gallery! Big Smile [:D]

Nothing new.

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 6, 2004 6:02 PM

Eric...

I sent the cable out today via Fedex. You should be getting it early tomorrow (1-7)

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 6, 2004 6:26 PM

Question for eRock:

I've got dial-up... and viewing your build images took hours... (I hate dial-up) but they are amazing...

Now that you are finished, is there any chance to get a CD of the images and a text of your commentary for each shot, plus methods for the painting & weathering? And Figure painting tips (I suck at figs)

I ask as I can barely handle simple paint jobs, and even your basic camo without all that weathering would tax my abilities. I do manage to get buy if I have good examples to work from... and between yours and another I've seen (can't remember the link but it was a late Tiger)
they are what I'd call museum class (or better)

And have you started to add a 'tips' file to the page yet? I thought of one that might help with the eye-bolts, but have to wait for my wire to try it:

Use some oil to slick down a small piece of wire that just fits thru the eye of the bolt. Put one prepped piece on the wire, lower down, making sure the unetched side is going to be glued. Place another on the wire, and let it rest a bit higher up on the wire. Paint the lower piece with the CA, and then quickly pop the upper piece down onto the lower one... The wire insures the eyes line up, the oil keeps the CA from bonding to the 'alignment' wire, and if you've done it right, the bolt is now one piece, not two. Repeat until you have the your bolts done (Note: some are 2-piece, some are 3-piece) Neat huh?

Also... to prevent CA from staying on your fingers, use gloves(clumsy) or use Vaseline or other hand lotion. It saturates the pores so the CA cannot sink in and bond. You can almost peel it off like white glue. If you prefer now to, a fine file or fine sandpaper will take bulk of it off...

WhiteWolf

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erush

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May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Tuesday, January 6, 2004 9:08 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Erock68

Eric...

I sent the cable out today via Fedex. You should be getting it early tomorrow (1-7)

Thanks Bro!

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Tuesday, January 6, 2004 9:33 PM

White Wolf, all you have to do to glue those bolts together is put all 2 or 3 on a wire, line them up, then put a dab of glue on the end. Wait 5 seconds and they're all glued together and lined up. Then you can run the glue along the rest of the edge and pull it off the wire. No need to oil anything up. You try it your way you'll never get them lined up before the glue sets, the oil will get everywhere, and may not let you glue anything together anyway.

Give it a try.

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 6, 2004 10:12 PM

NOW he tells me this... Banged Head [banghead]

You wanna go through each part assembly mentally, and note down the tricks? I might not have wrecked them knowing this beforehand. Whistling [:-^]

After trashing 2-3 bolts worth of the pieces, I suspect I may be able to complete the rest... forgot about the Censored [censored]

wicking action of parts... but some of the bolts are 'hidden' so I can scratch 'em with wire.

Whats the 'trick' for the wingnuts? I thought about assembling them on a piece of tape sticky out around the wire, gluing 'em, then removing or trimming the tape and slipping them off the 'assembly' wire. Whistling [:-^]

Someone needs to do up a file of "Aber 1/16 Tiger Tips & Tricks to Assembly", as some of us who've never done PE before (or forget stupid crap like this) need an assembly-by-assembly tips list.

I mean, a Tamiya 1/35 without any text is one thing... even a 1/16... but this Aber? Never had a nightmare kit likt this before... even the Bruiser gearcase was easy... (opened it to fit ball-bearings)

Yea, this from a mechanically minded guy that can strip almost any RC car, clean it, and re-assemble it again, no manual... Sign - Dots [#dots]

WhiteWolf
(now where did I bury that copper foil tape I had... )

One thing these parts have done is gimme some interesting ideas for my Sherman fit-out... and NO, its NOT just a target! (my M4 has the DMD/MF, the KT has just DMD, and the Tiger may be just twin-ESC...)

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 6, 2004 10:28 PM

Thanks for the trick erush.

I was thinking of just replacing them with real small machine screws (like model railroaders use).

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 6, 2004 11:21 PM

Latch:

I looked at my 00-90 bolts left over from a hobby store close (most of my 00-80's got used for the old KT skirts) and they are rather big in diameter compared to the eye-bolt diameter...

Unless you know of another supplier of hardware besides that small Hob-Bits brass stuff that is... and if you do, let me know, i'd like to chip in on a bigger order! I've got 3 tanks worth to outfit, so any savings is great.

WhiteWolf

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