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Posted by DrewH on Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:20 AM
Wa-hoooo look at 'em go!! HK's going for the, uh, first done kit Big Smile [:D] Looking good! remember, history chanel means less buildingDisapprove [V]
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Posted by Dubau on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:56 AM

All the builds so for are looking GOOD !

I have not yet started on my P-51A, but will soon

Keep up the GREAT Work all

Bud

" You've experienced a set back, and without set backs and learning how to fix them you'll never make the leap from kit builder to modeler "
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Posted by mph34 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:50 AM
 hkshooter wrote:

Have a little progress to report. Things have been slow while I've been massaging seams and getting sucked in by the History Channel.

Great work! Big Smile [:D] Thumbs Up [tup] I haven't even started mine yet due to yet another snow storm here in Denver, and the extended family stuff related to the holiday season.

And you are NOT BEING 'sucked in' by the History Channel.  You are 'sucked in' when you start watching more than 30 seconds of one of those Lifetime movies that our wifes love to watch. Confused [%-)] At least with the History Channel you are learning something productive (even if you are working on the ME-262 while watching something on the Revolutionary War). Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by hkshooter on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:20 AM

Have a little progress to report. Things have been slow while I've been massaging seams and getting sucked in by the History Channel.

I cut loose the elevators to add some life to the kit and positioned the rudder just a little to starboard.

The gear is just stuck on for the pics. Once the canopy is masked we'll be ready for paint.

 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:24 AM

Doh!Banged Head [banghead] I didn't even think that!!Banged Head [banghead] Glad you found a copy of them SturzThumbs Up [tup]

so far I have been painting the I.P. on my P-51 & the little thingies in the cockpitTongue [:P] i will post pics later todayBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:13 AM
 Hippy-Ed wrote:
 Sturzkampf wrote:

i also thought they were seat cushions

 

and? do somebody has this instructions?

Which instructions Sturz? for the tanks that look like seat cushions?? 

for the yak 3, but i found them on www.eduard.cz

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Posted by Avus on Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:22 AM

Wow, you guys are fast ones!
My only progress is that I ordered a photoetch set to improve the looks of my bird.

Klaus

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:44 PM
 Sturzkampf wrote:

i also thought they were seat cushions

 

and? do somebody has this instructions?

Which instructions Sturz? for the tanks that look like seat cushions?? 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:09 PM

i also thought they were seat cushions

 

and? do somebody has this instructions?

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:50 PM
 wing_nut wrote:
 smokinguns3 wrote:

Hay Narc what are those seats?

 

Narc?  I do not now, or have I ever worked for the govenrment, in an official or "stool pidgeon" capacityWink [;)]Big Smile [:D] 

 

Nope.... those are fuel tanks that go where the seats would have benn if it were an airliner version.

 

Good thing yer not. We don't take to kindly to dem thar types in thse here partsMischief [:-,] 

Fuel tanks? Man, look like seat cushions to me!!

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:08 PM
I didnt evan realize i spelled your name wrong, darn fat finguresTongue [:P]
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:05 PM
 smokinguns3 wrote:

Hay Narc what are those seats?

 

Narc?  I do not now, or have I ever worked for the govenrment, in an official or "stool pidgeon" capacityWink [;)]Big Smile [:D] 

 

Nope.... those are fuel tanks that go where the seats would have benn if it were an airliner version.

Marc  

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:47 PM
I figured it was just like any old laqure  i remember it likes to wrinkle the plastic if iam not mistaken. As for the primer i figured i would ask because i do remember when my dad had his body shops that for lighter colors he would use a light colored primer and for darker colors hed use red or black primer, i just figured id ask to make shure.
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by hkshooter on Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:31 PM

Smokin, nice work!

Let you in on something. Unless you are using Alclad II "chrome" you don't need to use a black primer. I use no primer at all for the purpose of using Alclad but more for other things like checking seams and sanding work to check the finish of the work before I spray. Whether or not you primer, the key to a good NMF is to make sure the surface to be painted is as perfect as possible, including any body work. I've used Tamiya primer, Krylon Gloss black and nothing at all and have had great finishes. Infact, bare, polished plastic has worked as good as anything for me.

Now, before you discount any primer under your Alclad remember this. Alclad is a very HOT paint. If you do spray it on bare plastic go slow and mist on the first couple of coats. You can see it dry as you go. Then, after the first couple of coats you can apply a heavier coat. The paint drys so fast that you don't have to wait for the initial coats to dry because they do in about twenty seconds.

If you should decide to apply it all in one, heavy coat your plastic parts will protest very loudly and nastily. Trust me.

Now to answer your initial question, yes, you can use gloss black enamels for a primer. Make sure it's dried well though, before spraying your Alclad. A real popular paint is the afore mentioned Krylon (via Swanny) decanted into a container and sprayed through the AB. And I've heard of some folks who like to use Future as a primer. As long as the finish is shiney.

 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:29 PM

Rob, Yer a speed demon!!Captain [4:-)] throw out the speed brakes on it will ya! Let some of us  catch up!!Laugh [(-D] Lookin' good my friend

 

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:05 PM

Hay Narc what are those seats? and Troy man you movin on that 262. So here what ive got done fuse done and wings attached, so here a question for you guys that use allcad 2 can i use enamel gloss black for the primer? I bought aluminum and dura aluminum and i cant ever get a good gloss coat with future and have heard nasty stories abou there primer.

Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:03 PM
 brain44 wrote:

Man, you guys are FAST!!!!  Heck, I haven't even had time to start cleaning up parts yet!!!! All the WIP pics are really impressive, looks like there is gonna be some outstanding builds in this GB!

Brian  Cowboy [C):-)]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]  fer sure fer sure!! Some impressive wip goin' on in these parts!!Make a Toast [#toast]

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Posted by brain44 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:21 AM

Man, you guys are FAST!!!!  Heck, I haven't even had time to start cleaning up parts yet!!!! All the WIP pics are really impressive, looks like there is gonna be some outstanding builds in this GB!

Brian  Cowboy [C):-)]

"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them." John Bernard Books (The Shootist)
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:40 AM
 Mist086 wrote:

and of course my camera's outta batteries.  THe kids' toys suck batteries like a black hole.  I had gotten the office painted and detailed.  I clear coated it because this one i want to weather.  Thats what i'm doing tonight.  I'll grab pics too

 

Jim 

Doh!!Banged Head [banghead] These things use batteries?!?! I better make sure I got some back ups!!

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Posted by hkshooter on Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:11 AM

I just about forgot! You'll like to be seeing progress pics! I remembered lastnight when I was going to bed but it was to late for good cockpit pics. So here is what I have so far.

The kit allows opening of engine and nose gun panels but I prefer the clean lines of the subject itself and usually close up all panels. The result is a little putty work.

I rearranged the instructions in a big way so I could do some seam and panel line work while it was easy to get to.

Will post more as I go. I promise!

 

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Posted by Mist086 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:40 AM

and of course my camera's outta batteries.  THe kids' toys suck batteries like a black hole.  I had gotten the office painted and detailed.  I clear coated it because this one i want to weather.  Thats what i'm doing tonight.  I'll grab pics too

 

Jim 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:10 AM

Jeez Rob.... fast and good.

So I'll take 2nd palce with WIP pics

 

Marc  

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:52 PM
 Dubau wrote:

She's looking GOOD Rob, and thanks for posting that 1 pic for me LOL

Bud

 

Yes He did that Just fer you BUD!!Mischief [:-,]Laugh [(-D] Now ya can see what it's suppose ta look likeBow [bow]

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:53 PM
Thanks fellas.
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by cj95 on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:39 PM

Yay!

 

Thanks mph!!

 I had built the rather pathetic Monogram P-40 a while back, but this Hasegawa kit is gonna rock!

 Oh and yeah.....The Chop-Chop refers to the sound the teeth make when they Chop you up I guess......Wink [;)]

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Posted by Dubau on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:32 PM

She's looking GOOD Rob, and thanks for posting that 1 pic for me LOL

Bud

" You've experienced a set back, and without set backs and learning how to fix them you'll never make the leap from kit builder to modeler "
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:15 PM
 DrewH wrote:

Wha-whooooo!!!! WTG Smokin'!!!!!

Looking good, very good!! The prize for posting WIP first......... must be progress over the rest of us!Bow [bow]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Dagnabbit it Rob!!! Quit showin' OFF!!!Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by DrewH on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:50 PM

Wha-whooooo!!!! WTG Smokin'!!!!!

Looking good, very good!! The prize for posting WIP first......... must be progress over the rest of us!Bow [bow]

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:31 PM

Ok here we go ive got the office painted and insalled and just finished pro welding the fusalage and wings i'll post more tommarrow.

Bud this is what your seams should look like. Likw i said i used pro weld but tennex7R is the same.

Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by Mist086 on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:58 AM
 Avus wrote:

You are welcome. I'm really happy you like what I picked for you.
These aircraft were not bad in aeordynamic design, but were no match in speed and armament for german or allied planes, this is why they are not as famous, I guess.
Should you have a hard time painting the "smoke ring" camouflage there ia a set of decals representing this particular pattern. I don't remember the company, but I'll have a look and get back to you.

 

Now worries mate.  I wanna try and Airbrush those little squiggles.  I like a challenge

 

Jim 

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