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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:29 PM

Rob, Yer a speed demon!!Captain [4:-)] throw out the speed brakes on it will ya! Let some of us  catch up!!Laugh [(-D] Lookin' good my friend

 

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Posted by hkshooter on Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:31 PM

Smokin, nice work!

Let you in on something. Unless you are using Alclad II "chrome" you don't need to use a black primer. I use no primer at all for the purpose of using Alclad but more for other things like checking seams and sanding work to check the finish of the work before I spray. Whether or not you primer, the key to a good NMF is to make sure the surface to be painted is as perfect as possible, including any body work. I've used Tamiya primer, Krylon Gloss black and nothing at all and have had great finishes. Infact, bare, polished plastic has worked as good as anything for me.

Now, before you discount any primer under your Alclad remember this. Alclad is a very HOT paint. If you do spray it on bare plastic go slow and mist on the first couple of coats. You can see it dry as you go. Then, after the first couple of coats you can apply a heavier coat. The paint drys so fast that you don't have to wait for the initial coats to dry because they do in about twenty seconds.

If you should decide to apply it all in one, heavy coat your plastic parts will protest very loudly and nastily. Trust me.

Now to answer your initial question, yes, you can use gloss black enamels for a primer. Make sure it's dried well though, before spraying your Alclad. A real popular paint is the afore mentioned Krylon (via Swanny) decanted into a container and sprayed through the AB. And I've heard of some folks who like to use Future as a primer. As long as the finish is shiney.

 

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:47 PM
I figured it was just like any old laqure  i remember it likes to wrinkle the plastic if iam not mistaken. As for the primer i figured i would ask because i do remember when my dad had his body shops that for lighter colors he would use a light colored primer and for darker colors hed use red or black primer, i just figured id ask to make shure.
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:05 PM
 smokinguns3 wrote:

Hay Narc what are those seats?

 

Narc?  I do not now, or have I ever worked for the govenrment, in an official or "stool pidgeon" capacityWink [;)]Big Smile [:D] 

 

Nope.... those are fuel tanks that go where the seats would have benn if it were an airliner version.

Marc  

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:08 PM
I didnt evan realize i spelled your name wrong, darn fat finguresTongue [:P]
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:50 PM
 wing_nut wrote:
 smokinguns3 wrote:

Hay Narc what are those seats?

 

Narc?  I do not now, or have I ever worked for the govenrment, in an official or "stool pidgeon" capacityWink [;)]Big Smile [:D] 

 

Nope.... those are fuel tanks that go where the seats would have benn if it were an airliner version.

 

Good thing yer not. We don't take to kindly to dem thar types in thse here partsMischief [:-,] 

Fuel tanks? Man, look like seat cushions to me!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:09 PM

i also thought they were seat cushions

 

and? do somebody has this instructions?

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:44 PM
 Sturzkampf wrote:

i also thought they were seat cushions

 

and? do somebody has this instructions?

Which instructions Sturz? for the tanks that look like seat cushions?? 

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Posted by Avus on Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:22 AM

Wow, you guys are fast ones!
My only progress is that I ordered a photoetch set to improve the looks of my bird.

Klaus

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:13 AM
 Hippy-Ed wrote:
 Sturzkampf wrote:

i also thought they were seat cushions

 

and? do somebody has this instructions?

Which instructions Sturz? for the tanks that look like seat cushions?? 

for the yak 3, but i found them on www.eduard.cz

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:24 AM

Doh!Banged Head [banghead] I didn't even think that!!Banged Head [banghead] Glad you found a copy of them SturzThumbs Up [tup]

so far I have been painting the I.P. on my P-51 & the little thingies in the cockpitTongue [:P] i will post pics later todayBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by hkshooter on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:20 AM

Have a little progress to report. Things have been slow while I've been massaging seams and getting sucked in by the History Channel.

I cut loose the elevators to add some life to the kit and positioned the rudder just a little to starboard.

The gear is just stuck on for the pics. Once the canopy is masked we'll be ready for paint.

 

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Posted by mph34 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:50 AM
 hkshooter wrote:

Have a little progress to report. Things have been slow while I've been massaging seams and getting sucked in by the History Channel.

Great work! Big Smile [:D] Thumbs Up [tup] I haven't even started mine yet due to yet another snow storm here in Denver, and the extended family stuff related to the holiday season.

And you are NOT BEING 'sucked in' by the History Channel.  You are 'sucked in' when you start watching more than 30 seconds of one of those Lifetime movies that our wifes love to watch. Confused [%-)] At least with the History Channel you are learning something productive (even if you are working on the ME-262 while watching something on the Revolutionary War). Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Dubau on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:56 AM

All the builds so for are looking GOOD !

I have not yet started on my P-51A, but will soon

Keep up the GREAT Work all

Bud

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Posted by DrewH on Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:20 AM
Wa-hoooo look at 'em go!! HK's going for the, uh, first done kit Big Smile [:D] Looking good! remember, history chanel means less buildingDisapprove [V]
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:12 PM

 DrewH wrote:
Wa-hoooo look at 'em go!! HK's going for the, uh, first done kit Big Smile [:D] Looking good! remember, history chanel means less buildingDisapprove [V]

 

Yep. Got suckered into the History channel myselfBlush [:I] Man, Love Dogfights!!

Time to get back to the building... 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:48 PM

Here ya go folksTongue [:P]

 

Dang it!!Banged Head [banghead]  batteries are Censored [censored]Dead [xx(]

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:59 PM

Come on Ed...

MORE PICTURES

MORE PICTURES

MORE PICTURES

MORE PICTURES

Big Smile [:D]

Not much progress but at least oyu can see they are not seat cushions!!!Wink [;)] 

Marc  

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:00 PM
Hey Marc, nice job on that I.P.!!Tongue [:P] I don't care what you say about those things, they still look like seat cushionsSign - Dots [#dots]
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Posted by Dubau on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:02 PM

Here is the start of my Accurate Miniatures P-51A Mustang.......

I still need to a little touch up work on the Office, but it's getting there. So for it's going good.

Thanks Santa......

Have a GREAT night all

Bud

 

 

P.S. Would anyone happen to have any PE Seat Belts for this kit ? Thanks

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:12 PM
Very nice there budTongue [:P] Wish I could get that good a close up with my camera!!Sign - Dots [#dots] I is working on that at least.  What is that in the last pic? I see there's a difference between myP-51B & your A. Interesting.  Are those pics under it in the 1st shot?
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Posted by gulfstreamV on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:12 PM
That sure is a nice job W/Bud, keep up the good work!Thumbs Up [tup] Great ref. photos by the way!
Stay XX Thirsty, My Fellow Modelers.
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Posted by Dubau on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:28 PM

Thanks guys...

Ed, the last pic is of the Batteries that are behind the seat, and from the 1st pic.

Ed and GulfstreamV, yes they are pics of the P-51 that I just got out of my Printer. As you can see in the pics in the 1st pic " Say that 3 times fast " All the color is off. I am just about out of ink.....

Bud

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:29 PM

Lookin good Bud shure wish my hands where as steady as yours.

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Posted by Dubau on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:38 PM

There NOT, I have to do a LOT of touch up's LOL Whistling [:-^]

Bud

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Posted by jwb on Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:52 AM

Well, I'm back home and NOT ON DIAL-UP! Wow- you truly don't appreciate high-speed lines until you spend a week on dial-up.

All the builds ar elokking great! I hope to start mine pretty quick. I need to finish up my Yak-1, and then I'm gonna jump in on my Spitfire IX. 

Hey Ed- one thing that might help with the pictures is take the camera outta the bubble wrap..... LOL! Wink [;)] 

Jon Bius

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Posted by Dubau on Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:04 AM

 jwb wrote:
Hey Ed- one thing that might help with the pictures is take the camera outta the bubble wrap..... LOL! Wink [;)] 

Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:19 AM
 jwb wrote:

Hey Ed- one thing that might help with the pictures is take the camera outta the bubble wrap..... LOL! Wink [;)] 

 

OOOH Yeah.... Jon is backSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Marc  

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:39 AM
welcome back to the technological life, jon. love the jak-3, i've made lot of research about it. i'd like to have rockets for it, maybe a pair of AT bombs...
jwb
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Posted by jwb on Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:55 AM

 Sturzkampf wrote:
welcome back to the technological life, jon. love the jak-3, i've made lot of research about it. i'd like to have rockets for it, maybe a pair of AT bombs...

I thought you might like that. It looked like it would be a great OOB build, and there are tons of AM parts and markings available too.

I've got some left over rockets from my Yak-1 that would probably work. I can mail then out to you if you'd like. Just let me know. 

Jon Bius

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