Moto GP / GP bike enthusiasts

Sorry man, missed that one! It's a definate yes! I allways prime my resin. And allways with Tamiya rattlecans. I use white primer under bright colours, well, mostly actually. The gray I use when I'm sanding and prepping. The weird thing with the gray is that it shows up imperfections spectacularly! So to make sure all is smoooth, I first use that, then white over it, if work (more than normal prep sanding) is needed. If it's just a part that you prep-sand, I go with white straight and then the colour. White allways to be used with colours that have some transluscency to them!

Good luck and enjoy! 

Thanks for the tips guys.

Any views / advice on my other question, is it necessary to use a primer when spraying resin parts and if so what brand etc?

YF72: Think more info was added recently - it says 2006, decals for Nakano and de Puniet. But yes, this is about time! Now also on HLJ as pre-order - release-date June.

BushPig:  You can also use clear 2-part epoxy to glue the resin parts. Bit more smelly and messy to work with, but it does give you more time to allign stuff properly. I've also used clear and "Future" to hold small PE parts. 

Bushpig:  I THINK you can use fingernail polish remover to un-do superglue when it's set.  Never tried it yet, I've got a Biaggi RC that I want to re-do, so I'll soon find out.  Not sure what the acetone in the polish remover will do to resin, one of our more astute members probably knows more.

Wolfpac:  Great scoop on the ZX-RR!  Too bad Big T hasn't put up any pics of it yet.  Wonder what year it will be? '06?

My builds are stalled what with getting ready for the move to Japan.  I'll have to set some time aside soon, I'm beginning to get the polystyrene DT's.

I'm not sure about the resin glue, but I've always used very small amounts of super glue just in case I don't get it right.

With PE parts (especially bolts) you can use a small dab of clear for an adhesive.  Works really well when placing over carbon fiber or decals.

I've always filled seams with squadron putty and have never had a problem.  I cannot imagine Tamiya making a poor product so I would say you should be good to go.

I'm not the be all end all of knowledge so I am sure if I have steered you wrong someone will correct me

Hi Guys. I need some advice. about to get going with the Rossi NSR transkit and as this is my first attempt at resin construction have a few questions i hope you can help me with.

Firstly am I correct in understanding the best way to glue resin parts together is good old superglue? My only thing with superglue is you have one chance to get it right! Whilst I am asking this, is there an alternative for sticking PE parts together that is a little more forgiving? Then in terms of painting is a primer necessary to ensure good paint adhesion? If so what brands do you recommend. Finally if I need to do some filling is normal Tamiya putty ok (I mean does it adhere OK and not fall out later!)

Hopefully Rossi can finally win in Turkey this weekend !

It's about damned time!!!!!!!!

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=14109

And the fork set

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=12619 

I love me some team green

How about a suzuki Tamiya?   

Thanks for the info Joel.  I have been very reluctant to build this kit for quite sometime.  Mostly because I've wanted to get some more models under my belt before I tackle this one.(Don't want to screw it up :)

Now that my modelling interest has shifted to aircraft, I'm considering selling it on ebay.  Maybe I'll just hold onto it till my interest shifts back to bikes!
Thanks again.

Hi and most welcome back to bike building (cause you are going to start that jewel, aren't you...???).

You are right about the price difference, seems to be a bit more white metal and PE in the newer -94 transkit but that doesn't sum up to more than double the price. Bike market has gone up definately. From what I have found looking through the web the -97 kit is out of stock everywhere and that should count for a bit higher price on the tag. But I think you shall build it.

/Joel

First allow me commend you guys on some incredible builds!  I am simply amazed at the level of detail you all have committed to putting into each of your bikes.

8 years ago I was bitten by the 1/12 bug and was hooked into motorcycle modelling for awhile.   Since then, my interest in modelling has come and gone and is now shifted to aircraft modelling. Recently I was rumaging through my spares bin and motorcycle stash and stumbled across a few items I had forgotten about.  One thing that jumped out was an RGV lucky strike conversion kit I had purchased when it first came out(2000?).  I wish I remeber what I paid for it.  Don't think it was that expensive($40-50?).
I have scoured the internet as to if they even sell it anymore.  The only thing I could find was the Studio 27 LS conversion kit for 1994.  Mine is from the 1997 WGP with decals for Anthony Gobert, Daryll Beattie, and an unknown #7.  My jaw hit the floor when I saw this was retailing for $135!
My question is if my transkit is equal in value?  Has anyone else purchased the same transkit?

I apologize if this is in the wrong thread/forum.  Thanks for any and all info you could provide.

Yet another jewel Andrew. Your builds are stunning.

/Joel

Hi Bushy,

             MSM Creation will have out this month the decals for Rossi '06 bike and has rider as well.  Email me at redesigns89@hotmail.com for a picture of sheet, I will send Andrew one as well.  

 I know the seat is not the same on Tamiya kit '05 bike, but they did use the '05 bike in a race during '06 to find a cure for the vibrations.

Rod.   :-)

Ahhh Andrew, how I would love to come and look into your display cabinet. Another fine build mate. I know we are all critical of our builds and tend to focus on the inevitable little mistakes that creep in, but this is again a superb example of your skill.

On the subject of 2006 versions it seems very quiet on the Yamaha M1 front. Does anyone know if the good Doctors versions are being worked on?

Eric recent news on 2005 Honda's - "coming soon from Ragged Edge are the decals to build the '05 RCV 211 Camel bike, with all rider options in '05. 6 options in all" 

Finished the Moriwaki NSR500 Honda at last. This was a complex paint job but turned out okay in the end.

The Dexter decals are a bit transparent though, so the white stripe "shines" a bit through the yellow number decals on the side covers but it is not that noticeable. I did not have this anywhere else since I had pre-sprayed the bike according to the colour pattern so I was placing a yellow decal over a yellow patch if you know what I mean. The white portions were all sprayed white and on the side covers I laid the Dexter white decal on top of the white painted portions and it looked fine, For the fairing white portions I sprayed white and then just added the black pinstripe. For the front number plate I again masked the yellow portion off and sprayed that yellow using only the black pinstripe from the decal, thus avoiding having to deal with the transparent decals or trying to get a decal to curve around a complex curve.  

The decals did struggle a bit under Tamiya TS13 clear coat but I think I have managed to smooth it out under a clear coat it again. What I think is happening is where the decal does not adhere strongly to the model the TS 13 tends to cause a reaction with the decal, the older Tamiya decals seemed to be fine, not sure but using Tamiya TS 13 is indeed risky BUT the finish and shine it produces is in my opinion well worth the risk

Can anyone locate me a Repsol decal kit for the 2005 season?  A camel Honda kit for 05 would be nice too.  All my usual websites I look for have come up empty.  And by empty I mean I cannot find any at all, as in no listing.

Thanks,

Erik

Welcome back Bushpig!

That CM PE set seems really really nice. Have to try it out although I'm not too fond of PE...

/Joel

Wow crazy modeller seem to have come up with another beaut here!

http://www.mediamixhobby.com.sg/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=4666

Happy Easter everyone. Seems so long since I filed a bit of plastic, not long to go and I will be up and running again!

Rossi is going to take that crown back. Was Caseys first win a flash in the pan? that Duc didnt seem to be on nitro in the last race!

williamsfw28 wrote:

And a quick question how different are the two bikes???

 If you havew Dani's bike you can compare the two here:

http://www.mediamixhobby.com.sg/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=2_7_24&products_id=4628

Click on the tab right below the product picture that says "more views".  The website has taken all of the pictures from the vendor and put it into a slide show.

I know HRC was trying to develop a new clutch and was using Nicky's bike as the test mule.  The problem was the new clutch location was placed deepin inside the engine.  The problems it created was the clutch would reach a higher temperature than what it should be, there by burning his clutch out.  This was one of the few problems he faced and a few of the bike differences between his and Dani's.  He was essentially on a different bike for every race.

 128.00 Bucks????  Well I think Ill just put Nickys numbers on the bike and call it good I dont think anyone around here even knows what a Moto GP bick is. I think Im one of only a hand full of people in WI that follow Moto GP & F1 its a Nascar nation were I live.   Pedrosa has nothing to worry about Rossi for long because he will be up in F1 soon. 

   I just thought is sucked that Nicky was only talked about as the team mate of Dannys. You Moto GP guys have it good I dont think Tamiya is ever going to put out a new F1 car. 

  And a quick question how different are the two bikes???

I would assume that it is only Dani's bike because they can really use the same mold for the Konica Minolta and Repsol bike (and possibly the Fortuna Honda's), where as Hayden was piloting the Revolution bike which if you look closely has some significant cosmetic differences.  I know that S27 is making a transkit for it ($128.00, f@$k me), but I would be interested in seeing Tamiya actually make the mold.

On a side note Dani will not win a title in GP until Rossi retires.  I know many feel that Nicky got lucky last year, but my personal opinion is you do not become the world champ by luck.  

I'm sure I've opened a can of worms now

Don't get me wrong here I know Pedrosa will win an championship I have know problems with him and hes fast.

I guess if I played the cynic I would say its more to do with the fact Nicky's an American and thats not such a good thing to be in the world today. I would like to think that Tamiya isn't thinking that way but I do find it funny that its not the Champions bike.........I maybe way off?????????oh well what can you do.....

You guys are building some wonderful looking models they really look great!!!

A cynic would say probably because Pedrosa is Honda's chosen one and Tamiya get their production licences from.....Honda.

Shayne, didnt make any moulds of the Aprilia but youve got me thinking that maybe I should have. Ive four more of them planned (another 500 and two 250s which are practically identical).

Never done any moulding before, not really sure how to even get started.

    I just got the new Repsol Honda '06 and i must say Im disapointed in that its not Nickys bike. He wins and they make Dannys bike and putting Nickys numbers on it would make it wrong its a re-worked 2005 that nicky Didnt ride in 2006. 

    Can anyone tell me why this is??? 

I love this thread.

(this post is also to subscribe so I don't have to keep looking for it )

Hi Shayne,

             I know the Italian bikes are sexy but never leave them alone together, yours are flaming breeding by the looks of it, lol.

Rod

Nick - great work on prilla take any moulds

Joel -good to see that you are tackling a T/K after you build of the R1 I'm certain you will do it justice

Well I have not done much last few weeks have been put on night shift for 4-5 weeks start at 7.30pm and fin at 6.30am 4 days a week.Have got a little update on what have started /done up to now.

Ducati's (3 D'Antin race and test versions + 2006 factory duke )

have got a wee bit of sanding to finnish + a bit more remodleing of the 2006 bike

Have got the last bits needed for the 05 M1 test bike , so will start on this again after coming of night shift.

Got the 05 pit walk book , top studio 05 bit's , and 05 M1 front  fork set ,  oh yeh + enough cf  to cover about 10 bike's.

Just for fun I brought 1/6 YZR500 Iterlari (sorry spelt wrong)

for the scale of this kit thought the detail would be good , How wrong was I to sum up in 1 word sh*t .

Will be adding a few extra's here and there , good point is frame and bottom of forks are metal and pre painted just for comparaion the smaller frame is M1 frame , smaller tail is M1 and wheel is a spare from spare's box

Shayne 

Cheers Rod,

Funny you should mention matchstick - theres one holding the rear wheel in at the moment ! (only temporary tho)  

 N

Hi Nick,

         nice work on the 500 'prilla, we modelers must be the most versatile people alive. When the rest of the world makes a mountain out of a mole hill, we build a Aprilia out of a matchstick, lol.  Keep up the good work mate.

Rod. 

Progress on the Aprilia V twin 500....started testing various combinations for the carbon fibre swingarm. Two things were important here - the pattern of the CF weave and the colours. I had found a few pretty good reference pics on the internet, so I began test spraying with pieces of tights streched over scraps of plastic. Found that the pattern came out really well when the tights were stretched very taut. Also did a few different colour combinations until I was happy with the effect. Base coat is gloss black and then oversprayed with a pearlescent grey (both just standard car spray cans). Quite pleased with the result, given its my first try. It does actually look better with the naked eye - its was quite hard to get pics showing the cf weave, maybe its just my snapping skills.

Mounting the swingarm in the frame was a bit fiddly as Id lost the original mounting points on the frame when I was converting it. Its not easy trying to put in new mounting points so the swingarm is both vertical AND in line with the frame. After much squinting and cursing, I got it though.

Next up is finishing off the engine & frame. Will have to make new exhausts, radiator and a few little electrical gizmos that go on the frame. And an instrument cluster. Oh, still have some work todo on the fork legs & calipers as well. Then comes the REAL work - the fairing, which Im both looking forward to and in some ways dreading.

You guys have it easy with your builds