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SPITFIRE GROUP BUILD 2007-2008

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:06 PM
Greg, I've never had much success with glosses from a rattle can. My guess would be the issue arose in the application of your main colors since you mentioned that you fine-sanded the primer. Pressure might have been too high, airbrush might have been held too far away from the surface, or the paint may not have been thinned enough. In any case, I would let your model sit for at least a day, maybe more, until the gloss you applied is fully cured, and then fine-sand it again, wipe the sanding dust away, and airbrush some Future onto it as your gloss coat. Spray it at about 15 psi, work slowly, and don't hold the airbrush more than 6" - 8" from the surface of your Spit. Your off to a fine start and I wouldn't let a small setback like this put you into panic mode. It's really not as bad as it may seem right now.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:27 PM

Thanks a lot Gentlemen! You may realize what kind of panic attack i experienced :)

I made me realize how little I know about this business :)

Greg

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:55 PM

Gentlemen,

I tried one more thing - set decals into water for just few seconds (about 5sec) and tried to set them on the plane ...

here we go:

 

 

 I think I just panicked but it is a good experience for me ... be patient and .. read more posts :)

Thanks for such quick help

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:05 PM
 jwb wrote:

All- Last night I was looking for Spitfire sites, and found out that thespitfire.com was available. A few clicks later..... I own it! Not sure yet exactly what I'll do with it, but it will involove Spitfires. Wink [;)] 

I think you should have pics of all the Spits you are going to build, K5054 thru Mk.47. Big Smile [:D] PM inbound!

Frank 

 

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Posted by ModelMan8 on Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:06 PM

Greg, they look really goodThumbs Up [tup]....PM inbound!

Well Guys, I am glad the GB is finally on.  Can't wait to work on my MKII.  From what I have read, the rest of the squadron is going to be off the ground before the 109s know they are coming!!Big Smile [:D]

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Sunday, July 1, 2007 12:20 AM

So, after a moment of horror, I was able to apply decals on this bird. Thanks again for help.

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, July 1, 2007 2:47 AM
Looks nice, Greg! Glad it worked out for you! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Sunday, July 1, 2007 8:13 AM

Thanks again. It was not pretty seing something like that happening ...

I also realized how diferent some decals are. The tehcmod is thin and very delicate while tamiya is think and pretty robust - not very easy to follow panel lines though.

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by ww2modeler on Sunday, July 1, 2007 8:45 AM

Looks great, can't wait to see the finished thing.

David

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Posted by ollie on Sunday, July 1, 2007 9:39 AM
 Daywalker wrote:
 jwb wrote:

All- Last night I was looking for Spitfire sites, and found out that thespitfire.com was available. A few clicks later..... I own it! Not sure yet exactly what I'll do with it, but it will involove Spitfires. Wink [;)] 

I think you should have pics of all the Spits you are going to build, K5054 thru Mk.47. Big Smile [:D] PM inbound!

Your missing a few. How about the Type224, theres only one kit of that on the market. Or the Seafang.

www.overthefencephotography.co.uk - aircraft photos.
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Posted by razordws on Sunday, July 1, 2007 10:33 AM

Looks great Greg.  Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] I love the fading on the panels.  Looking forward to seeing it finished.

Jon, I look forward to seeing what you do with thespitfire.com!  Knowing you it will be awesome!

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, July 1, 2007 10:45 AM

Looking good Greg!  Glad to see you were able to save it with some good decals.

BTW, does anyone out there have any photos of a late Spitfire, say Mk.22/24 or Mk.46/47?  I really want to see where the seatbelts come through the rear bulkhead.

Frank 

 

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Posted by ollie on Sunday, July 1, 2007 1:33 PM
 Daywalker wrote:

Looking good Greg!  Glad to see you were able to save it with some good decals.

BTW, does anyone out there have any photos of a late Spitfire, say Mk.22/24 or Mk.46/47?  I really want to see where the seatbelts come through the rear bulkhead.

 The modellers datafile book on the Griffon engined Spitfires is a great book for photos like that.

www.overthefencephotography.co.uk - aircraft photos.
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 1:49 PM

Frank-

this is not written in English, but the pics may be useful.Thumbs Up [tup]

http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/artikel.php?id=1663 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, July 1, 2007 2:26 PM
Thanks Darren!  Still can't quite tell where the seatbelts exit the bulkhead, how are you doing yours?

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:09 PM

I don't have an actual picture of the real thing to hand, but a chap I know built his Mk.22 like this.....

......and it looks right to me. The 22/24 airfrmes were the same interally as the 46/47 airframes so if you make an incision between the top of the seat and the headrest and feed the harness through there, it'll look OK.Thumbs Up [tup]

Hope this helps.Wink [;)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:13 PM

Here's some progress on my Eduard/Hasegawa cockpit for the Mk.IX that I am building.

There's a few more things to do, but these shots will give you an idea of the detail my PE set has provided. Its a very fiddly business and it is the most detail I've ever put into a Spitfire before, so I hope its noticable when its all done!





 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
gzt
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Posted by gzt on Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:19 PM

Nice cockpit Darren !  Keep those pictures coming

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:28 PM

Thanks Greg!

Here's some more pics-I took these tonight before I closed up the fuselage. The seat is completely made from PE as is the instrument panel and harness. All the other deatils on the side walls are a mix of PE and kit parts with some fuse wire thown in for good measure and I driled out all the holes in the spars. Its not the tidiest job in the world but I'm pleased with it as its better than anything I've done on a Spit before.

Let me know what you think....




 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
gzt
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Posted by gzt on Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:56 PM

Great job with the cockpit !

I am going to use them as reference for my two IXcs !  What parts did you use ? I never heard of PE Seats Angry [:(!]. I got resin seats for my IX and Eduard PE sets but PE Seat ? never saw it :(

I like the effect a lot ! Resin seats will not give this look. 

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, July 1, 2007 7:07 PM
Darren, looks awesome from where I'm sitting, buddy!! Great work!! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Sunday, July 1, 2007 7:22 PM
Very nice Darren! You'll be done before I get back from vacation! Wink [;)]

Jon Bius

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 8:16 PM

Big Smile [:D]

Thanks lads!Thumbs Up [tup] I don't if I'll be that quick Jon, I want to take my time with this one and try to do a nice job on it.

Hopefully I'll get the airframe together tomorrow, all being well.Wink [;)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, July 1, 2007 9:52 PM

Darren-

Absolutely outstanding!  The detail you've put into that office is truly amazing.  Just in the few months I have known you your work has really shined.  I was very impressed with the projects I first saw of yours, but as of late you have really been raising the bar!

Frank 

 

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Posted by darson on Monday, July 2, 2007 2:38 AM

 TANGO 1 wrote:

Let me know what you think....

Darren actually I think the front office looks absolutely fantastic, I'm sure the rest of the kit will turn out just as nice.  Tell me what did you use for the oxygen hose, it looks spot on?

Greg the Mk.II is looking just great; I can't believe the difference when I look back on shots of the original kit.

Frank, I don't know if this is going to help or not, but here are a couple of shots of an un-restored Spitfire Mk.22/24 armored headrest from my references.  They show the slot where the harness would have come from.

 

Cheers

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Monday, July 2, 2007 7:04 AM
 darson wrote:

Greg the Mk.II is looking just great; I can't believe the difference when I look back on shots of the original kit.

Thanks Darren.

I could not stand this plane as it was before ? Smile [:)].  Knowing that this kit deserved a better treatment - I have to do it Smile [:)]

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, July 2, 2007 8:08 AM

Frank-

thanks mate! You are too kind, I guess this is one of those builds where taking a little extra time with it has really paid off. I hope the rest of it tturns out as nice.

Darren- 

Thank you very much! The hose is is a bit of electrical fuse wire, its comes in all sorts of sizes so I always have some handy. BTW, those pics of the Mk. 22 are superb!Thumbs Up [tup] Just what we needed-many thanks!

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, July 2, 2007 8:31 AM
 darson wrote:

Frank, I don't know if this is going to help or not, but here are a couple of shots of an un-restored Spitfire Mk.22/24 armored headrest from my references.  They show the slot where the harness would have come from.

Darren- That's exactly what I was looking for.  Strange color on the interior, what is it?  The Airfix instructions call out for black being the major interior color.  I read a review of the kit over on modelling madness, and the reviewer mentioned painting his int. green, only to find out later that it should have been black.  Anyone know which is correct?

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, July 2, 2007 12:06 PM
Fleet Air Arm Seafire's were painted black on the inside. A lot of restoration teams go for grey, but I'm at a loss as to why.........
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, July 3, 2007 11:51 AM

After chomping at the bit and not being able to wait for the official start date... I finally got to do some more work on the MkVc.  PE cockpit details folded and installed.  Need to paint the seat/bulkhead and it will be time to button up the fuselage soon.

A question about the seat back... Was that padded?  And what color is the seat?  I saw something that said the whole thing was a brownish.  Should that just be the back rest?

Marc  

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