SPITFIRE GROUP BUILD 2007-2008

Frank, looked in the back and I dont have  the spit your looking for. I was hopeing there were two but no luck.

Thad

jeaton01 wrote:

The next picture shows some "deviation from the written instructions".  Test fitting and other people's opinions indicated a problem with the fit of the engine mount bulhead, and even though I thinned it down and narrowed its width, things were still not going in a way that was going to allow a tight fit to the wings at the upper roots.  The fuselage shells are so thin that I couldn't fit the wing without this bulkhead installed, so I went ahead and installed the bulkhead, and then the finished cockpit. Next I fitted the wing, which fit too tight, there was insufficient dihedral in the wing (the upper panels were already assembled to the lower, I think the best way to do it).  I took my Tamiya sprue cutters and cut out the center of the engine mount bulkhead, and then installed the wing, flowing thick super glue in on the upper wing roots.  The gap was minimal, but so was the dihedral at this point.  Next, I assembled the lower cowl halves, and when well cured I assembled that to the nose.  I then super-glued a piece of sprue accross the lower third of the EMB while I was holding a little more dihedral than I wanted to end up with.  Seems to have worked, and I have no bad gaps to deal with.  If the fuselage were not so "bendy" I probably couldn't have done it this way, but then maybe I wouldn't have had to.   As it is, I haven't glued anything in without studying the fuselage to see that it was all still going in a straight line.  The final result if I get it right will hopefully be an airplane with nice thin edges to things due to the kit's design.

I just picked up the ICM Mk. VII, and I'd read about the engine fit. I'm going to print out your approach to dealing with it and stick it in the box so when I get to it I'll have a reference. Thanks for posting that! 

wing_nut wrote:

Now THAT"S what I call a Spitfire

Not retouched:

Another update on my practice build, the 1/48 ICM Mk XVI.

This is a very fiddly kit, but it is coming together OK.  Or maybe I am just in love with those Eduard color PE belts I put in today.  Whatever, I feel good.

The next two photos make me wish I had thought to thin down the sides and front of the seat.  Next time.  This is just practice.

The next picture shows some "deviation from the written instructions". 

Test fitting and other people's opinions indicated a problem with the fit of the engine mount bulhead, and even though I thinned it down and narrowed its width, things were still not going in a way that was going to allow a tight fit to the wings at the upper roots.  The fuselage shells are so thin that I couldn't fit the wing without this bulkhead installed, so I went ahead and installed the bulkhead, and then the finished cockpit. Next I fitted the wing, which fit too tight, there was insufficient dihedral in the wing (the upper panels were already assembled to the lower, I think the best way to do it).  I took my Tamiya sprue cutters and cut out the center of the engine mount bulkhead, and then installed the wing, flowing thick super glue in on the upper wing roots.  The gap was minimal, but so was the dihedral at this point.  Next, I assembled the lower cowl halves, and when well cured I assembled that to the nose.  I then super-glued a piece of sprue accross the lower third of the EMB while I was holding a little more dihedral than I wanted to end up with.  Seems to have worked, and I have no bad gaps to deal with.  If the fuselage were not so "bendy" I probably couldn't have done it this way, but then maybe I wouldn't have had to.   As it is, I haven't glued anything in without studying the fuselage to see that it was all still going in a straight line.  The final result if I get it right will hopefully be an airplane with nice thin edges to things due to the kit's design.

Thanks for the info John.  I have a line on a couple of the Airfix kits, think I might see if I can get my hands on one of those.  Thanks again!

Frank,

I don't plan on building the Seafang, so beyond making a mold from its canopy parts (my Spiteful is shy those parts, came that way from Squadron) I have no need for it, and would trade it for any reasonable 1/48 fighter kit.  The Silver Cloud kits are not easy builds, though, and before you go for it you might want to consider finding the Airfix Seafire 47 kit.  The Seafang kit is only appropriate if you just absolutely MUST have a Seafang!  I will say that the shape of the Spiteful and Seafang kits are much better than the reviews on Modelling Madness would make you think.  They are a little larger than 1/48 overall, about 3/16 too long in length. I think the reviewer may have missed that when he said the back of the fuselage was too high.  The fin and rudder do need rework on both kits.

Yikes! That is just an awesome Spit, Darren! Man, you guys are really setting the bar way up high for this upcoming Spitfire build. I got a feeling there's going to be some incredible work on display here based on what I've already seen.

Darren, nice pickup on the Eduard Spit. I've yet to build an Airfix kit or any Eduard kit that was not a biplane, but it sounds like you got yourself a great deal there! I'm looking forward to following your progress on this one!

The Airfix Spitfire F Mk 22/24 (and their Seafire FR 46/47) are, arguably, their best ever plastic kits IMHO and the Eduard kit that I plan to do is actually the Airfix kit plastic parts, an Aires resin cockpit, plus exhausts and F Mk 22 wheels. Eduard also throw in add one of their superb colour etch frets and canopy and wheel masks.  I simply couldn't resist it when I saw it at my LHS

Darren that is a fantastic looking Spitfire .

Dave welcome to the build

Cheers

razordws wrote:

Since this is an open ended GB I might as well sign up.  I know I have a couple of old Heller kits (Mk. I and a Mk XVI I beleive) in the stash so I might use those as a warm up to something bigger later on.  I won't be able to start on them for quite a while though.

Good to have you on board Dave, glad you are here.

Hi Everyone,

I've not been around much due to work, hope all is well.

Seeing as its a while before this one gets started, I thought I would post a couple of pics of a build I did a couple of years ago.

This is Revell's 1/32 Spitfire Mk.Ia built OOB with the exception of some PE seatbelts. Its a fairly  simple kit but one of my favourites as I enjoyed building it so much. This one is in its Battle of Britain livery with decals mixed and matched from the kit.

Daywalker wrote:

John, I've always wanted a plane with the contra rotating props!  I've been looking for the Airfix Spitfire 46/47, but no luck anywhere.  Do you really want to get rid of the Sea Fang?  How much would you want for it?

Frank,

I managed to score the Airfix Seafire 46/47 the other day! Its a nice kit, keep looking out for one because they are well worth having.

Now THAT"S what I call a Spitfire

John,

I've always wanted a plane with the contra rotating props!  I've been looking for the Airfix Spitfire 46/47, but no luck anywhere.  Do you really want to get rid of the Sea Fang?  How much would you want for it?

Daywalker wrote:

jeaton01 wrote: Is that a pic of the Sea Fang?  Not familiar with it, but looks like a beautiful aircraft.

No, it's the Spiteful, the Seafang is almost the same, the main differences are that it had contra-rotating props and a different lower rudder because of the hook.

jeaton01 wrote:

All this talk about sad and lonely Spitfires put me in mind of a certain Silver Cloud Spiteful I started on about two years ago, so I dug it out.   It is a sad "Spitfire".  I spent the last 3 hours working on getting the shape of the fin and rudder right.  Grumble grumble . What the heck, if I'm going to have the first of the breed, I have to have the other bookend too, right? Not sure if the Spiteful will be done in before this GB winds up, though.  Not for the faint of heart.  Anybody want the Silver Cloud Sea Fang that is also in my stash?

Is that a pic of the Sea Fang?  Not familiar with it, but looks like a beautiful aircraft.

John I've got to tell you that I have always been a big fan of the Spiteful, to me it's almost like the child of a Spitfire & P-51 mating

Dave, funny you should mention yard sale, we are going to have a garage sale in a few weeks... I will be watching my stash with eagle eyes, better yet I'll put them in a locked drawer and swallow the key... well maybe not, that might get a little messy...

 JWB that is an excellent idea! I know where there is lots of spitfires that need a kind and caring hand to construct them and give them a good warm home after.  My b-day is comming up in a few months....hmmm

All this talk about sad and lonely Spitfires put me in mind of a certain Silver Cloud Spiteful I started on about two years ago, so I dug it out.   It is a sad "Spitfire".  I spent the last 3 hours working on getting the shape of the fin and rudder right.  Grumble grumble .

What the heck, if I'm going to have the first of the breed, I have to have the other bookend too, right?

Not sure if the Spiteful will be done in before this GB winds up, though.  Not for the faint of heart.  Anybody want the Silver Cloud Sea Fang that is also in my stash?

wyoroy wrote:

jwb wrote:  jboutin wrote: JWB, please, you must talk some sense into my modeling consious (aka my wife).  She just doesn't understand about the Spitfire. Appeal to the kind, caring side. Get a sad face and repeat this: Somewhere out there is a Spitfire. A sad Spitfire. A lonely Spitfire. Why is it a sad and lonely Spitfire? Because it sits lonely and unbuilt on a shelf somewhere. But it doesn't have to be that way! For just a small amount.... pennies a day really over the course of it's lifetime, you can make a difference in the life of a Spitfire. So have compassion on that Spitfire..... bring it home today. You can't help all the sad, lonely Spitfires. You're only one person. But you can help one. By doing so, you can be part of the solution. Together, we can make sure there are no homeless Spitfires. PS: Enjoy your Spitfire, jboutin.     I feel for the lonely Spitfire, who do I see about a donation? Roy

Oh that would most definetly be me. Oh yeah. I'll send you a picture and a letter from your Spitfire that you support.

jwb wrote:

jboutin wrote: JWB, please, you must talk some sense into my modeling consious (aka my wife).  She just doesn't understand about the Spitfire. Appeal to the kind, caring side. Get a sad face and repeat this: Somewhere out there is a Spitfire. A sad Spitfire. A lonely Spitfire. Why is it a sad and lonely Spitfire? Because it sits lonely and unbuilt on a shelf somewhere. But it doesn't have to be that way! For just a small amount.... pennies a day really over the course of it's lifetime, you can make a difference in the life of a Spitfire. So have compassion on that Spitfire..... bring it home today. You can't help all the sad, lonely Spitfires. You're only one person. But you can help one. By doing so, you can be part of the solution. Together, we can make sure there are no homeless Spitfires. PS: Enjoy your Spitfire, jboutin.

I feel for the lonely Spitfire, who do I see about a donation?

Roy

jwb wrote:

Appeal to the kind, caring side. Get a sad face and repeat this: Somewhere out there is a Spitfire. A sad Spitfire. A lonely Spitfire. Why is it a sad and lonely Spitfire? Because it sits lonely and unbuilt on a shelf somewhere. But it doesn't have to be that way! For just a small amount.... pennies a day really over the course of it's lifetime, you can make a difference in the life of a Spitfire. So have compassion on that Spitfire..... bring it home today. You can't help all the sad, lonely Spitfires. You're only one person. But you can help one. By doing so, you can be part of the solution. Together, we can make sure there are no homeless Spitfires. PS: Enjoy your Spitfire, jboutin.

LMFAO

KINGTHAD wrote:

Glad to be aboard, I have not built a Spit in some time (sorry jwb). I dont know where I will find a kit for this build! (inside joke for Frank and jwb) Thad

Methinks if you rummage a bit you might find sumfin or nuther!

Seriously- I picked up the ICM Mk. VII today at the LHS, and it looks really, really nice. Worth a look for one of the more rarely built Spitfires. The guy at the shop said it wasn't a shake and bake kit, but he said it was better than a typical Airfix or Revogram kit. The detail in the office is extremely nice, and it has a full engine.

jboutin wrote:

JWB, please, you must talk some sense into my modeling consious (aka my wife).  She just doesn't understand about the Spitfire.

Appeal to the kind, caring side. Get a sad face and repeat this:

Somewhere out there is a Spitfire.

A sad Spitfire.

A lonely Spitfire.

Why is it a sad and lonely Spitfire?

Because it sits lonely and unbuilt on a shelf somewhere.

But it doesn't have to be that way!

For just a small amount.... pennies a day really over the course of it's lifetime, you can make a difference in the life of a Spitfire.

So have compassion on that Spitfire..... bring it home today.

You can't help all the sad, lonely Spitfires. You're only one person. But you can help one. By doing so, you can be part of the solution. Together, we can make sure there are no homeless Spitfires.

PS: Enjoy your Spitfire, jboutin.  

Dave, your looking at this the wrong way. We need his wife to call us when she has the sale

Thad

bobbaily wrote:

Jay-you must tell your wife that you currently have a 2:1 ratio of axis to allied craft in your stash.  I'm sure that there is an international modeling law somewhere that mandates a 1:1 ratio of axis:allied.  At least it's worth a try

...but you must word it properly so that it doesn't backfire on you to where she makes you sell off half of your axis stuff.

But this time Dark Blue World was on the IFC channel." border="0" width="15" height="15" /> so I am all revved up.

I was surfing the other night and came across the same flik and I enjoyed it.

Thad