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Posted by ollie on Tuesday, August 7, 2007 5:55 PM

It will be a while before i can start but we have got plenty of time.

Re the Black DR1, there is a replica flying in the UK in those markings. Its based at Breighton and operated by Taff Smith of the real aeroplane company. If you goolge Real aeroplane company and contact them they should help.

As a side note they also have a real Sopwith Camel project on the go.

www.overthefencephotography.co.uk - aircraft photos.
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, August 7, 2007 9:53 PM

I was looking after some tips of doing rigging and found this interesting and detailed article:

http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/08/stuff_eng_tech_rigging.htm

I thought some may be interested in such case Big Smile [:D] I was Smile [:)]

Still collecting data ....

My Albatros D.III (oef) is waiting ....

Greg 

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gzt
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Posted by gzt on Monday, August 13, 2007 7:21 PM

There will be an interesting episode of Dogfight on History channel this Friday (9PM EST)

Greg 

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Posted by More Power Scotty on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:18 PM

Greg,

I saw that advertisement as well, and I am really looking forward to this one.  This season has been very interesting, so I am looking forward to seeing what they will do with biplane dogfights.  Friday can not get here soon enough!

Scott
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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:45 PM
 gzt wrote:
Still collecting data ....

My Albatros D.III (oef) is waiting ....

I hear ya Greg. So are my DH.2 and my D.VII. I don't think I've ever been as amped up for a GB as I am for this one. I'm even toying with the idea of adding a Hanriot HD.1 to my list. Wink [;)]

One can never have enough stringbags! Big Smile [:D]

Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:48 PM
Sounds good Mike, I'll add it to your list! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:55 PM

 Daywalker wrote:
Sounds good Mike, I'll add it to your list! Big Smile [:D]

Awesome!! I really like that bird. It'll probably be the first one of the 3 that I build. Big Smile [:D] Just the thought of building 3 stringbags in a row has me drooling! Good thing all the decals are still sealed. Tongue [:P]

Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:07 PM
OK, who makes it and what scale?  I can't wait to see these three in the works!

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:19 PM

Frank, the Hanriot HD.1 is also an Eduard kit....1/48. I must confess to having done just a little bit on it already (some scratchbuilding around the tail section), but I put it aside right after this GB became official.

Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:40 AM
 ruddratt wrote:

I must confess to having done just a little bit on it already (some scratchbuilding around the tail section), but I put it aside right after this GB became official.

NP Mike, I updated your list!  You are going to be a busy boy this fall, better stock up on the coffee! Make a Toast [#toast]

Frank 

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:48 AM

Greetings all;

Sorry I have been a bit absent lately.  Family matters and my website being upgraded (and a new server) have had me busy.   For those of you who have PM-ed or e-mailed  me  I'll be getting to your queries in the next few days. Model On! 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:05 PM
No worries Stephen!  It's been pretty quiet around here, I think everyone is trying to finish up some other Gb's before this one starts in 44 DAYS!!! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by gzt on Monday, August 20, 2007 8:12 PM

I do not know about you but I was a bit dissapointed last Week when I did not find Dogfights at 9PM. Last Week I was fooled by History Channel. Today I just saw they changed Dogfight showing time !

It will be this Thursday at 10 PM and next at 11 PM , YES two episodes. One of them is by all means missed last Friday ! WWI Dogfights !

I hope they will keep their schedule this time. 

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:56 AM
 gzt wrote:

I do not know about you but I was a bit dissapointed last Week when I did not find Dogfights at 9PM. Last Week I was fooled by History Channel. Today I just saw they changed Dogfight showing time !

It will be this Thursday at 10 PM and next at 11 PM , YES two episodes. One of them is by all means missed last Friday ! WWI Dogfights !

I hope they will keep their schedule this time. 

Thank goodness for the DVR!  I have it set to record all new episodes, so I don't have to worry about schedule changes.  Whew!  I would hate to miss a single episode.

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:14 AM
 espins1 wrote:
 gzt wrote:

I do not know about you but I was a bit dissapointed last Week when I did not find Dogfights at 9PM. Last Week I was fooled by History Channel. Today I just saw they changed Dogfight showing time !

It will be this Thursday at 10 PM and next at 11 PM , YES two episodes. One of them is by all means missed last Friday ! WWI Dogfights !

I hope they will keep their schedule this time. 

Thank goodness for the DVR!  I have it set to record all new episodes, so I don't have to worry about schedule changes.  Whew!  I would hate to miss a single episode.

Scott, me too Big Smile [:D] but under DOGFIGHTS title I have recorded a Human Weapon Angry [:(!] interesting subject but not as much as WWI dogfights.

Hopefuly this thursday we will see some nice footage from WWI stringbags Big Smile [:D]

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:41 AM
I'm glad they are branching out a bit.  I want to see more WWI stuff and more WWII dogfights, Battle of Britain, North Africa, Eastern Front... all of it!  more more more!  Cool [8D]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by gzt on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:38 PM

I am not sure if you guys already know this:

http://www.redbaron-themovie.com/

It looks interesting. BTW I found a picture of an interesting monument ....

 

  

 

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Posted by More Power Scotty on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:03 PM

Greg,

I ended up going out with my family after work on Friday and did not get back until the show was supposed to have ended.  As it was a quickly decided on jaunt, I did not bother setting the DVR.  Of course I freaked when the show was not listed again later that evening, as is always the case with the History channel.  Now I know that they moved the schedule without telling anyone.  Anyway, I went forward in the schedule on Friday night, found the Thursday episode, and set the DVR; fool me once...

The link for the movie is appreciated, and I may have to do some looking for that movie sometime.  I read the synopsis and it looks as though they made a love story and anti-war story out of his life.  I wrote a report on Manfred for a leadership course that I took in college, and I did not run into any information mentioning the nurse or his reluctant feelings of being a hero.  Perhaps I just did not research deep enough, or this movie is just another Pearl Harbor (the one with Ben Aflec). 

Scott
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Posted by StephenLawson on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:47 PM
 gzt wrote:
I am not sure if you guys already know this:

http://www.redbaron-themovie.com/

It looks interesting. BTW I found a picture of an interesting monument ....

 

Greg

Greetings all. Greg has posted a wonderful piece of Manfred von Richthofen history.  If I may elaborate?  The monument was erected in a park in old Breslau Germany.  There was a bronze plaque at its center (empty square section) that was done from a photo of Manfred in the cockpit of an Alb.D.Va (I believe) taken in late 1917. 

 

It was built in the park after his death, but for a unique reason.  Manfred had in early 1917 (May) taken leave.  During part of it had taken a Halberstadt D. type  fighter (in normal factory finish) from a depot, probably somewhere around Berlin and flew to his hometown and landed in this park.  It was approximately 100 yards from his family home. 

During the Soviet occupation the plaque disappeared.  Its evident that modern taggers have had a go at the faceplate.  I am told that every so often it is cleaned up and repainted.   

  

 

 

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:48 PM
I'd be really surprised to hear that Von Richthofen had a change of heart about war, nothing I have read would indicate that.  But, you never know.  He certainly had enough exposure to the dirt of war in the cavalry, didn't he?

John

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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:06 PM

Stephen, Greg, Nice bit of history.  Thank you!

I sure hate it when they turn war movies into love stories.  That whole Ben Aflick movie thing was pretty pathetic... except for the parts that actually had airplanes in them. Clown [:o)]Wink [;)]

Dave

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:25 PM
 razordws wrote:

Stephen, Greg, Nice bit of history.  Thank you!

I sure hate it when they turn war movies into love stories.  That whole Ben Aflick movie thing was pretty pathetic... except for the parts that actually had airplanes in them. Clown [:o)]Wink [;)]

I would add:

.. and if they did not show "pilots" reactions during flight Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:41 PM
You know what that reminds me of.  When I'm sitting watching a movie with my wife (who is a professional musician) and they show a group of musicians in the background, or... someone famous is pretending to play an instrument and I invariably get the "their not actually playing" comment from my wife.  I feel the same way about those "pilot" reactions.  Not that I'm a professional pilot or anything but come on'... give us a break. 

Dave

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Posted by gzt on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:05 PM

Dave: LOL

What can we do ? just lough Big Smile [:D], but on the other hand the same question is popping up almost immedietely:

those people who are responsible for showing such " scenes" have some obligation to fulfil. A professionalism of showing a piece of history. If they fail here, who else will tell the real story ?

Remember the Spitfires on Aflak movie ? I was SCARED. What if people who watch it will believe those pictures ? WHat a pathethic scene when Ben have been "introduced " to his aircraft ? 

Another issue: showing two airplanes having the same registration marks next to each other? not even mentioning that RF was a Polish squadron Big Smile [:D]

Ohhh pathetic Big Smile [:D]

I hope that at least our voice will go around and point those ... hmm .. stupid mistakes

Anyway, I think we do have a better things to do than focus on such lauzy movie Wink [;)] I have to start masking my Vb (what in fact will have RF markings Big Smile [:D])

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Posted by StephenLawson on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:45 PM

 jeaton01 wrote:
I'd be really surprised to hear that von Richthofen had a change of heart about war, nothing I have read would indicate that.  But, you never know.  He certainly had enough exposure to the dirt of war in the cavalry, didn't he?

There has been a lot written about MvR.  While we don't have his diary in the public domain what we do have are comments from the people he knew.  Many of these comments say that after his head wound on July 6, 1917 that he was a changed individual.  His ghost written autobiography the "Red Battle Flyer" was full of courageous statements and elan.  The truth was his courage was intact but the realities of war were more of a daily concern.  MvR didn't care for the women that adored him, the generals that praised him.  He cared about the soldiers in the trench and mentioned this to his mother on the visit I spoke of in May 1917.  MvR noted that his red bird was quite well known and after downing a reconn machine  the would fly low over the trenches and the whole line would wave their helmets and arms from behind their cover looking up at him.  This gave him a vivid sense of duty, stopping photo reconn machines from getting their information back to hdqtrs.  Look at his victory score and you will note he shot down many more two-seater than single seaters.

Onehistorian has said that there have been more books written about Ritt. Manfred von Richthofen than Abraham Lincoln.  One of the best is a monograph by the late A. E. (Ed) Ferko. simply titled "RICHTHOFEN" it is available through Albatros publications Ltd.

http://www.windsockdatafilespecials.co.uk/

Richthofen by A E (ED) Ferko. This is a superb record of Germany's leading fighter pilot, which also includes detailed appendices and notes. There are 203 photos (many hitherto unpublished) that trace the Baron's WWI career. 84 pages offer a unique, fresh insight into Germany's Ace of Aces; also included are 4 colour pages with 15 colour profiles of the Baron's aeroplanes. £21.00

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by StephenLawson on Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:19 AM

Greetings all Its seems as though the GB  will be marking the entrance of three new molds by Eduard before they step back from WWI aviation molds.  From Lynn at HS.

 ". . .First thing this morning, I cornered Vlad to cover a few questions that were raised here last night and this AM, namely the WWI situation and the continuation of the Mirage series. Regarding the WWI stuff, Eduard is most emphatically NOT turning their backs on the series; Vlad mentioned a few things he'd like to tackle in the future, which will certainly bring smiles to ragwing builders' faces if they were to come to fruition, . . . Make no mistake, Eduard is in it to win it, and is comfortable taking on the "big boys" when it comes to the F-4 family, so WWI guys, just trust that they're not abandoning you, they're doing what they think is best for their business and I suspect they'll be proven right. . . "

From another fellow, ". . .In addition, during 2008 Eduard will release perhaps their final all-new 1/48 scale WWI kits for the time being. These three kits will be a SPAD XIII, Fokker Dr.I and a Fokker Eindekker. These kits are due around Spring/Summer 2008."

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:40 AM

Looks like I had better get my wallet ready...Disapprove [V]

Thanks Stephen!

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:22 PM

 StephenLawson wrote:
From another fellow, ". . .In addition, during 2008 Eduard will release perhaps their final all-new 1/48 scale WWI kits for the time being. These three kits will be a SPAD XIII, Fokker Dr.I and a Fokker Eindekker. These kits are due around Spring/Summer 2008."

This made my day! Big Smile [:D]

Mike

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, August 27, 2007 7:45 AM
 ruddratt wrote:

 StephenLawson wrote:
From another fellow, ". . .In addition, during 2008 Eduard will release perhaps their final all-new 1/48 scale WWI kits for the time being. These three kits will be a SPAD XIII, Fokker Dr.I and a Fokker Eindekker. These kits are due around Spring/Summer 2008."

This made my day! Big Smile [:D]

 

But whyQuestion [?] Rumor has it that you're going back to building armorWhistling [:-^]     Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Marc  

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, August 27, 2007 11:00 AM

With the chance to build 3 new stringbags from Eduard, I'm glad it was just a rumor. Wink [;)]

Who starts those things anyway? Cool [8D]

Mike

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