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  • Member since
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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, September 24, 2007 8:33 AM

SD-

OK, I removed the "?"

As for looking into the box, that is allowed.  In fact, I have done it MANY times. Sigh [sigh]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, September 24, 2007 7:24 PM
OK, I have a question for you guys.  The DML kit I am going to be building has the stainless steel P/E parts in it.  What would be the best way to anneal these parts?  I have heard of people heating them over a candle flame, but no mention of how long.  Also, wouldn't the soot of the flame get all over the parts?  Sigh [sigh]

Frank 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, September 24, 2007 7:48 PM
I don't think you will have much luck trying to anneal stainless.  It just doesn't behave like brass or copper.  It is really an odd duck among metals.  It's useless to use as a bushing because it has less impact resistance than you would think, but is almost impossible to saw, just rips up saw blades and devours drill bits too.  It "likes" heat, and is a good material for exhaust systems.   You might try it, just in case it is not actually stainless, or an alloy different than the usual 18-8 stainless.  If it is stainless, you don't need to worry about the soot carbonizing it.  It won't.  Just wipe it off.

John

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:24 AM

John pretty much hit the nail on the head, Frank. I've had very limited success annealing the metal parts that come with the DML kits. In the case of the seat belts, I found it easier to pre-bend/test-fit/repeat and then CA the pre-formed part into place instead of gluing as I go as is the case with the much softer brass belts.

I would have answered sooner buddy, but for some reason I was unable to log in to the forums last night. Angry [:(!]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by sirdrake on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:50 PM
 ruddratt wrote:

I would have answered sooner buddy, but for some reason I was unable to log in to the forums last night. Angry [:(!]

Yes, had the same problems. Something was definitely wrong with the login yesterday

SD

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Posted by StephenLawson on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:08 PM

Ditto on the Login.

Actually I have had a good bit of experience working with the DML / Dragon Nickel coated photoetch metal.   The Dragon PE is a bit different its actually stainless steel.  But the DML gun jackets are much like the Eduard aftermarket frets for the Nieuport, Pfalz D.III and Alb. D.III & D.Va  sets.

Butane lighters cook them better than anything else.  When the Nickel coated PE begins to discolor ( blue streaks) you have done what needs to be done.  Always remember to roll the gun jackets over a hard flat surface like a panel of glass or ceramic tile.  The new silver nickel PE Eduard uses  is very easy to form.  I am doing a tutorial over on another forum.  Enjoy.

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  • From: Lubbock, TX
Posted by MrDrummy on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:27 PM

Hey Frank--

I had no problems whatsoever annealing the gun jackets, seatbelts etc on the DML Fokker that I was using as a warm up to the group build.  Just like Stephen says--heat 'em up, and you're fine.  I even went a step further and dipped them into cold water whenever they got red-hot.  I don't know if this helped the process much, but what it DID do was knock all the soot off instantly when it hit the water! :)  What a happy blunder.

-Justin
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:32 AM

VERY LATE ENTRY

 

Found a 1/72 Sopwith Camel today for $4 along with some others. I dout I'll begin to make the dead line but just wanted to join in and say hey 

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:25 AM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Waste Land, the more the merrier!

Thanks for the help guys.  I'll try your techniques for annealing. 

THREE DAYS TO GO...

Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, September 27, 2007 7:15 AM

TWO MORE DAYS GENTLEMEN...

Tongue [:P]

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:47 AM
I've been oogling my 3 entries, trying to decide which one gets built first. Fortunately I still have two days to decide. Wink [;)]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:52 AM

Mike,

Would you be interrested in a friendly little poll from the other GB members?  Or a vote? Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:18 PM

Yeah, I'd be curious to know how much rigging you guys want to see me do right off the bat, buddy. Wink [;)]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:32 PM
How 'bout that DVII?  Not much rigging there.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, September 28, 2007 7:27 AM

ONE MORE DAY EVERYONE!

That's right, tomorrow is our official kickoff for this GB!  I can hardly wait! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:25 AM

And we're off!  Today is our official kick-off for this GB.  I have to work today, so I am hoping some of the rest of you will be able to put glue to plastic and such.  I am really excited, and can't wait to see the work being done here!

Happy Birthday Mike!  I hope you have a wonderful birthday buddy!!! Party [party]Happy B-Day [bday]Party [party]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sirdrake on Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:36 PM

...am I really the first to post something? Kinda intimidating... Blush [:I]

Whatever, here's some box art:

 

Happy group build everyone!

SD 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:45 PM

SD-

Whew!  Glad to see someone else is here today.  Looking forward to seeing that one come together.  Don't really see very many of those!

Frank 

 

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:54 PM
Thanks for the B-day wishes, my friend! Yep, today officially kicks off the GB. I am so amped up for this build! Looks like I'll be starting with the Hanriot....no wait....the D.VII.....ummmm....nope, maybe the DH.2....oh gawd I'm so confused!!!! Dunce [D)]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:12 PM
LOL... Did you get some nice things for your birthday?

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:25 PM
Sure did, buddy! Got treated to a real nice dinner last night and got to open up gifts when we got home. The Honeymooners 'Classic 39' collection on DVD (I just LOVE that show!), a months supply of chocolate fudge (my weakness), some autographed sports items, plus (and I'm not sure how she managed THIS one) a 1' x 2' section of fender off one of Ricky Rudd's 'Tide Rides' (when he drove the #10 Tide sponsored NASCAR Ford Taurus back in the late 90's), autographed by the Rooster himself. That one just knocked me for a loop!

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:29 PM
Very nice!  Sounds like a great birthday thus far.  I used to cheer for the Rooster myself years back when I watched NASCAR.  Now, my brother and stepfather are the big fans.  Matt Kenseth's home town is about a half hour from my house, so he seems to be a favorite of my stepfathers.  He has Kenseth stuff EVERYWHERE around his house.

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:35 PM
Sounds like my older brother. His place is a shrine to Rusty Wallace! Big Smile [:D]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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  • From: Bakersfield, CA
Posted by HereticXIX on Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:31 PM

Hi everyone, been reading the forums for awhile now and i'd like to be counted in on this gb. I have a 1/72 ESCI/ERTL Nieuport 17c. I'll also be building another 1/72 model from the Axis side for a nice air battle diorama. Haven't built a model in years, this should be fun. Looking forward to seeing what people have done!

 Thanks

David 

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Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:52 PM
David, looks like you've jumped on board at the perfect time. The GB starts today, and I'm sure our fearless leader Frank (Daywalker) will be along to add you to the list. So, feel free to help yourself to a group badge and have some fun!

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:53 PM

David-

First off, Sign - Welcome [#welcome] back to the hobby, AND Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to our GB!

There are a lot of very talented people here, who are always willing to offer tips and advice.  It's gonna be a lot of fun!

Frank 

 

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:29 PM
Hey Frank! I just couldn't make up my mind which one to build first, so I left the choice up to my (much) better half. Looks like I'll be kicking off the GB with the DH.2 and all that rigging. My wife says it looks like a real challenge (and did she ever hit the nail on the head with THAT observation!).

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:32 PM
Ohhh...that does sound like a challenge!  I'm really looking forward to seeing that one!Tongue [:P]

Frank 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:38 PM

For sure my other builds will seem like a walk in the park after this one! LOL!

....and a belated congrats on 2000 posts! Nicely done my friend! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:40 PM
I'm here, I'm here.  The Siemens-Schuckert D.III box is headin fer the bench.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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