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  • Member since
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  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:15 AM
Right on! Looking forward to seeing some pictures of em. Especially for the P-40! I'm in that same GB too, and i've just barely begunThumbs Up [tup]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by dostacos on Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:02 AM

my P40 from ebay is still on it's way {revell} and I am going to also get an Academy hanging around here it seems that a cockpit is NECESSARY Wink [;)] so I also ordered a cockpit for the Revell.

 trust me mine will NOT be the top of the heap now how do ya show these things in flight when nobody seems to have pilots?

I would love to have one of the 40s taking off with one wheel up and the second one still down.... 

Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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Posted by StephenLawson on Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:14 AM
Greetings dostacos;  Welcome.  You will find some decent folks hereabouts.

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by DesertRat on Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:22 AM
Maybe not the top of the heap, but i'm sure yours will be well perch on top of mine there, methinks! Yeah, i'm doing the same P-40B from Revell. Where are ya getting the aftermarket kits? All off of Ebay?

Warmest regards,

Roger

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  • From: POLAND
Posted by Rafhart on Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:10 AM
 StephenLawson wrote:

Greetings Rafhart;

The seat backing on the Fokker Dr.I production types was covered in clear doped linen fabric like the wings and fuselage. Though the seat was not streaked like these airframe items. In the case of von Richthofen's  Dr.I 425/17 even the seat fabric was doped red.  We know this because the seat is in the Royal Military Institute and was given to them by none other than A.R. Brown.  It was sewn into eyelets around the rim backing.  We don't know about MvR's other red triplanes. 

 Sorry for My english , seat is red ??? In the photo is leather. ???

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:14 AM

dostacos-

I am also looking forward to seeing your P-40 as it comes along, I am part of that GB too!

As for tweezervaulting, it is a "sport" in which I also partake, but do not particularly enjoy...Banged Head [banghead]

Frank 

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:05 PM
 Rafhart wrote:
 StephenLawson wrote:

Greetings Rafhart;

The seat backing on the Fokker Dr.I production types was covered in clear doped linen fabric like the wings and fuselage. Though the seat was not streaked like these airframe items. In the case of von Richthofen's  Dr.I 425/17 even the seat fabric was doped red.  We know this because the seat is in the Royal Military Institute and was given to them by none other than A.R. Brown.  It was sewn into eyelets around the rim backing.  We don't know about MvR's other red triplanes. 

 Sorry for My english , seat is red ??? In the photo is leather. ???

Here is amore detailed explaination.  The seat backing is aluminum and it was covered in linen.  This covering in 425/17 was doped in red paint.  This covering was ripped off by Austrailian troops at the crash site.  Bits of the fabric are still in the rim where it was sewn in place.

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by dostacos on Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:05 PM

the Squadron for the Academy P 40 and cockpit, the armor and Sopwith from a local hobby shop and the pair of DVIIs from Squadron again. They are not always the cheapest but I have always had good luck with the shipping time.

 We have a HUGE hobby shop near the house {Pegasus, http://pegasushobbies.com/} and they are great for getting that last bottle of paint you need, they seem to have it all stocked. their kit selection may not be as good as it could be BUT they do have Academy Eduards etc.

 

dan 

Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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Posted by DesertRat on Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:05 PM

 Daywalker wrote:
As for tweezervaulting, it is a "sport" in which I also partake, but do not particularly enjoy...Banged Head [banghead]

Yeah, me too. I was on the varsity team in tweezervaulting myself. Lettered in my sophomore year!Big Smile [:D]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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OK I am holding all ya'all for getting me into this! :)
Posted by dostacos on Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:47 PM

I have been playing with my Hobby Craft 1/32 Sopwith and noticed 6 small pieces for the rigging that needed to have HOLES drilled in them, then I noticed 6 more SMALLER pieces for the tail to do the same thing NEEDING itty bitty holes

It looks like there are holes in the fuselage that the control wires need to go into or out of... The only way I can see to do this and keep them tight is to glue to the inside of the fuselage before closing it up and let em sorta hang in the breeze until ready to rig.

 I guess I need to do a first paint before I glue the halves together so I don't stress the rigging and not paint it either.

 don't ya just love the crazed rantings of a newbieSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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Posted by DesertRat on Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:59 PM
Newbies got nothing to do with it!!!!! We all love to indulge in crazed ranting! Why should you be any different?!?!?!?Wink [;)]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by dostacos on Friday, October 19, 2007 12:27 AM

okBlush [:I]

as for tweezervaulting I am a two sport, 4 year  Varsity all American {hoping to get to divison 1A Whistling [:-^]

Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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Posted by DesertRat on Friday, October 19, 2007 1:40 AM

Figures! It's guys like you that always take the head cheerleaders to the prom......Sigh [sigh]

Go figure....Wink [;)]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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  • From: Lubbock, TX
Posted by MrDrummy on Friday, October 19, 2007 4:41 AM

Alright- a little further down the road on the Albatros.  

Had a go at scratch-building a fuel cell out of part of the nose of one of my old botched Bf109 G-6's.  It came out ok.  (It's the the big hunk of metal sitting behind the engine.)  I'm pleased at how this is coming along so far. 

Made a bit of a mess of the "wood" piece the engine is sitting on trying to experiment with some wood grain techniques.  As you can see, it didn't turn out.  Luckily you won't be able to see anything once it's all together.

I'm taking my time and dry fitting everything 100 times before gluing it!  I don't want to mess this one up!  Still some more painting to do before I button her up. 

 

 

-Justin
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Posted by Rafhart on Friday, October 19, 2007 2:45 PM
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Posted by DesertRat on Friday, October 19, 2007 7:03 PM
She's lookin good, Rafhart! She's lookin mighty good!Thumbs Up [tup]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, October 19, 2007 7:12 PM

Justin, Rafhart-

Looking good fellas!  Keep the progress shots coming.  I am really hoping to start mine soon! Propeller [8-]

Frank 

 

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Posted by DesertRat on Friday, October 19, 2007 7:17 PM
 Daywalker wrote:

  I am really hoping to start mine soon! Propeller [8-]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]Blush [:I]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by MrDrummy on Friday, October 19, 2007 10:00 PM

Thanks, Frank!  Trying to work on this thing is much, MUCH different than my usual 109s! :)

Now I just need to get better at my photo skills!

-Justin
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Posted by StephenLawson on Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:20 PM

Greetings all;

Many of you have asked how I get get so much information on a rather esoteric era. I am a long time member of several organizations.  Along with the websites I have listed in my signature here are some great organizations that I recommend or am a board member to.

Cross & Cockade Intl.
http://www.crossandcockade.com/

Over the Front
http://www.overthefront.com/

Albatros pub. Ltd. 
http://www.windsockdatafilespecials.co.uk/
The above was recently changed fom a .com to co.uk.

These organizations are available for memberships and individual sales of specific back volumes.  Of course it helps that I am the Archivist to the Lafayette Foundation.
http://www.lafayettefoundation.org/

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by Rafhart on Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:51 PM

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:17 PM
Looks great Rafhart!  I started on my DVIII today, but the only thing I accomplished was beginning to fill all of the little ejector pin dimples on the interior parts.  Man, it's tough to get sandpaper down in there to do the job!

Frank 

 

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Posted by MrDrummy on Monday, October 22, 2007 12:37 AM

Glad to hear you're started, Frank!  

I spent all day sanding too, but on the outside of the fuselage!  I made a few problems for myself when I was removing the parts from the sprues, but luckily the marks are only on bottom.  There are sinkmarks in the fuselage as well, down on the very end of the fuse, but I think that I've got those dealt with.

This WWI stuff is stretching me, for sure!

Stephen-

What kind of paint did you use for the Hellblau on your DIII?  I'm mostly an acrylic guy, so let me know if you know of a good match!

Rafhart- Awesome!  Can we see some more pictures?

-Justin
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Posted by DesertRat on Monday, October 22, 2007 1:48 AM
 MrDrummy wrote:

Rafhart- Awesome!  Can we see some more pictures?

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

I'd love to see more of your build! Judging by the propeller, it looks to me like you have the wood texture down pat. How did you do it?

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, October 22, 2007 2:32 AM

 MrDrummy wrote:
". . .Stephen- What kind of paint did you use for the Hellblau on your DIII?  I'm mostly an acrylic guy, so let me know if you know of a good match!

It is enamel mix myself.  I used a slightly lighter version of the German  lt. blue the Albatros fighters used on their wing undersurfaces.  The type of blue Frommherz had his crew paint the machine was obviously something they had a lot of.  Up close shots of this machine in the Prien and Bernert photo albums note the clean and pristine condition when photographed. 

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 22, 2007 9:16 AM
Thanks Justin!  I was gonna bite the bullet and just buy the Eduard offering, but decided to try and repair the Dragon kit first.  We'll see if I made the choice...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 22, 2007 10:38 AM

I have a question regarding colors on my DVIII.  I know that the triangle on the interior is wood, and the area outside of it is lozenge.  But, what color are the frames for the wood parts?  Should they be another wood shade, or the RLM02 color?

Also, does anyone have a reference photo or a color profile of a DVIII as delivered from the factory?  I need to find out the O.E. colors for the tail and nose bowl.  TIA!

Frank 

 

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Posted by Rafhart on Monday, October 22, 2007 11:27 AM

New photo 

 

 

 

I use two colors brawn , to painting "wods"

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 22, 2007 2:20 PM

Very nice Rafhart!  Congratulations on your completion, I have updated the front page!

I finally have a WIP shot, though it isn't much.  The DML kit has quite a few ejector pin marks on the rear fuse bulkhead, cockpit floor, and inside fuse right in the middle of the detail! Banged Head [banghead]  I filled them with Mr. Surfacer 500, and CAREFULLY sanded them down.  Hoping to put a basecoat for the woodgrain down soon.

Frank 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, October 22, 2007 3:50 PM

very nicely done rafhart.  Hey, is this the GB's 1st completion?

 

Color question for ther WWI experts... does this look about right? 

 

 

Marc  

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