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Posted by StephenLawson on Friday, October 26, 2007 11:21 PM
Also on the early Fokker E.V the outer wheel covers were either done like the Fok. Dr.I types where the clear doped linen was mounted then the wheel spun and paint applied with a brush or later versions were lozenge.  Got your "addy" will root through my decal files tonight.

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, October 27, 2007 5:25 AM
Thanks a bunch Stephen!  I appreciate the help. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 29, 2007 9:45 AM
I got a little work done on the DVIII this weekend, and hope to post some pics soon. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by MrDrummy on Monday, October 29, 2007 10:39 AM

Nice, Frank.  Looking forward to those pics!

I got nothing done, as I was out cruising around being a rockstar (or something...)  Should get a bit of paint on the fuselage this afternoon!

-Justin
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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, October 29, 2007 10:57 AM

Be afraid... be very afraid....

 

 

The light at the end of the tunnel has come into view on my P-47 build so it won’t be long before I will be pestering you WWI experts with seemingly moronic questions like… “That 2nd wing goes where? No really? Really?  WOW whodathunk!”

 

Marc  

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 29, 2007 12:50 PM
 wing_nut wrote:

Be afraid... be very afraid....

 

 

The light at the end of the tunnel has come into view on my P-47 build so it won’t be long before I will be pestering you WWI experts with seemingly moronic questions like… “That 2nd wing goes where? No really? Really?  WOW whodathunk!”

 

Marc-

Glad to hear you will be able to start soon, I cannot wait to see your work on a WWI subject!  Justin- Thanks!  I'll try to get them in the next couple of days.  Been very busy here and at work with Christmas coming! Propeller [8-]

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, October 29, 2007 4:02 PM

Hello lads,

I have started work on my N.17 and I am not having a great time with this kit-the fit(or lack of it) is terrible! 

I have got the engine mounted and the lower wing has been glued into place. I have also added the tail elevators and rudder......when I figure out how to rig this thing I'll get some pics up!Confused [%-)]

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, October 29, 2007 8:44 PM
Greetings Frank; Decals sent out today. No great shakes odds and ends. Crosses, series and etc. Keep them or pass on what you don't use.  No worries, Model On!

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, October 29, 2007 8:45 PM
Greetings Tango1 which kit are you working with?

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by MrDrummy on Monday, October 29, 2007 10:38 PM

Ok-- first coat of paint (read:coat that shows you all your mistakes) on tonight. Mostly, though, it looks ok. A big blob of color in photos, really.  Tail will be white eventually.

 

I had a couple of spots I knew were going to be problems, such as this gap where the vertical stabilizer meets the fuselage. It sure was an icky fit, just not wanting to sit down in place no matter what I did!  I merely made the best fit I could, and secured it in place, and this is what I have left.

 

What have you guys found the best way of eliminating a gap of this type?  I don't have anything thin enough to sand down in the crack, but I'm sure that a shot of some really think CA glue would polish this thing off pretty easily.  Any tips appreciated!!  

Stephen-- do you think the color looks fairly accurate?  Also did you use the decal for the sash around the fuselage, or did you paint yours on?  I'm debating on what to do!

-Justin
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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, October 29, 2007 10:56 PM

I make my own sanding sticks for odd corners like that by CA'ing 400 wet or dry sandpaper to the right shape of brass tubing or square stock, whatever I have nearby that is the right shape.

Looks like it's pretty well put together to me.  But, I wonder how well faired in the real fin was to the monocoque fuselage?

 

John

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Posted by StephenLawson on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:47 AM

 MrDrummy wrote:
". . . I had a couple of spots I knew were going to be problems, such as this gap where the vertical stabilizer meets the fuselage. It sure was an icky fit, just not wanting to sit down in place no matter what I did!  I merely made the best fit I could, and secured it in place, and this is what I have left. . .Stephen-- do you think the color looks fairly accurate?  Also did you use the decal for the sash around the fuselage, or did you paint yours on?  I'm debating on what to do!"

This is the kind of thing I talk about in my how to articles.  But I'll go this far and say the fin was built intergerally with the fuselage on the Albatros D. type fighters.  After I close up the fuselage I begin my Albie builds with applying a bead of gel super glue to each side of the unpainted fuselage at the joint of the Eduard fin. I then use a finger tightly wrapped paper towel to wipe it down to the closest contour. Minor sanding follows.  Simply fold sanding film or paper several times into a narrow edge and pinch it between your index finger and thumb to sand it down.  Not much will be needed. 

On the colour: my monitor may show a different colour than yours.  And truthfully this kind of colour match leaves a lot of room for interpretation.  Since there is no colour chip for the aircraft in question - its up to you and your research. 

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:14 AM

Thanks Stephen- much appreciated!

Darren- Sorry to hear of your troubles with that one, mate!  With the skills you possess, I KNOW it will turn beautifully!

Justin- Milliput would work well there.  You can mix some up, smear it in the bad spots, then use a little water to smooth it out.  You probably wouldn't even have to do any sanding!

It may be a few days before I can post any pics.  My Internet at home is down (gotta love the lil' local phone company!) so I can only check in here while at work.  Just don't tell the boss! Taped Shut [XX]

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:33 PM

 StephenLawson wrote:
Greetings Tango1 which kit are you working with?

Hi Stephen,

its the Academy 1/32 Neiuport 17. My knowledge of WWI aircraft is limited and I am not getting on well with it at the minute. I hope to do better once I reslove some of the fit issues.

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Dougums on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:30 PM

Well I painted my prop ....   

 I wasn't really sure about the color until I read about the use of clear orange.  Thanks for the tip Marc!!  It made it all come together. Now I need to hunt down Carmine Red.  Any suggestions??

 

Doug 

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Posted by DesertRat on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:15 PM
 Dougums wrote:

Well I painted my prop ....   

 I wasn't really sure about the color until I read about the use of clear orange.  Thanks for the tip Marc!!  It made it all come together. Now I need to hunt down Carmine Red.  Any suggestions??

 

Doug 

That's an incredible looking prop! I swear it looks more like you went out and carved one outta wood with stain, lacquer and the whole bit! Hell, it looks nicer than alot of my better wooden furniture does.Cool [8D]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by MrDrummy on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:36 PM

Dougums--

That looks awesome, man!!  Great job.

Did you pretty much follow his methods to a T?

-Justin
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Posted by Dougums on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:11 AM

Thanks for the praise! :)

MrDrummy- Yup pretty much... it worked great.

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:02 AM
Beautiful work Doug!  Man, there's some serious talent 'round here! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:32 PM
OK, I got my Internet back up and running, so should be able to post some pics real soon.  Right now, my girlfriend has the camera at work to take pictures of everyone in their Halloween costumes.  And, I got a new model for this build today in the mail!  It's the Eduard 1/48 Nieuport 11.  One I have wanted to build for a long time!  Looking at that beautiful lil' kit, it's hard to believe it's 1/48 and not 1/72!

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:27 PM
Great choice, buddy! Eduard's kits are awesome, and the Nieuports had nowhere near the amount of rigging of say a SPAD or a Camel. I built their Nieuport 17 and it was a joy to put together. Go get 'em! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by dostacos on Thursday, November 1, 2007 1:03 AM

Stephen, I just read the download on your Newport build, and there are great ideas that will add to my build timeThumbs Up [tup] and since the weekend kit is cheaper, I plan on doing all four at some point in time { I guess 5 if you count Rawlings with the new markings... eek, I forgot to check and see if his final flight had a lewis on the wing} using the decals from the flyboys kit.

 I have a couple of questions regarding the article that I will PM you with.

and for others here, it was worth it for me, and I plan on getting some more real soon

 

Dan 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:26 AM
Thanks Mike, it does look like a gem of a kit.  And, it's the first time I ordered an Eduard kit that actually came with the entire kit in the box! Propeller [8-]

Frank 

 

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Posted by MrDrummy on Thursday, November 1, 2007 10:06 AM

I'll second Stephen's stuff as being first-rate.  There was a wealth of knowledge included in my download.

Here's where I'm at as of this morning:

 

Tail painted (sans black stripe on the border of white/blue,) pilot holes drilled for rigging, and started dry fitting the wings.  Now I just need to make them fit right!Banged Head [banghead]

Frank-- I've fallen in love with these Eduard kits!! 

-Justin
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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, November 1, 2007 10:20 AM

Looking good Justin!  If she turns out 1/3 as nice as the '109s I've seen of yours, it's gonna be AWESOME!!!Bow [bow]

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, November 1, 2007 1:15 PM

Justin, that is looking fantastic! I really like the pre-shading .... it highlights the rib & the panel detail nicely! Great work on the engine too!

Frank, which edition of the Eduard kit did you pick up? Is it the profi-pack?

I think it's time for me to jump back into this build. The Camel is back on the bench, the scratchbuilt details are installed on the engine waiting for paint, the 'pit and the seat are currently under construction. Got chores to do today and a curling match tonight, but I feel an all-nighter at the bench coming on for later tonight. Big Smile [:D]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, November 1, 2007 5:54 PM

Mike-

That's good news buddy!  Glad to hear you have some bench time coming up.  I'll be looking for some WIP shots this weekend! Wink [;)]  The Nieuport 11 I got is not the profipack version, I had a hard time finding this one and couldn't find the other anywhere.  Still looks like a nice kit, though!  I plan on posting some photos tomorrow, got a little work to do to some of the parts tonight first.

Stephen- PM inbound! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:35 PM

OK here I comeSmile [:)]

Gonna just catch my breath, order a Vector engine and get this GBG started.

If anyone else is doing a Camel, I found a nice shot opf the rigging  (what have I gotten myslef into[%-])

 

Marc  

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:49 PM

Thanks for posting the photo, Marc.  It's a good one, but maybe it shows too much detail!

I have several of the EDuard Camel kits, but I have to earn the right to start on one of them by first finishing my SS III.  And I do mean earn, it is a bit of a struggle at this point.  Still, it is the best SS III kit there is.

John

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, November 1, 2007 7:22 PM
 wing_nut wrote:

I found a nice shot opf the rigging  (what have I gotten myslef into[%-])

Now you can see why I am building the Fokker DVIII, almost NO rigging! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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