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  • From: Colorado
Posted by StephenLawson on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:36 AM

Greetings Daywalker;

Is it too late to join?  If not put me down for an Eduard 1/48 Albatros D.III and a Roden 1/48 Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter.

On 6 April 1917, the United States entered the war. It was also the day that Ltn. von Bertrab of Jasta 30, flying his dark purple Albatros D.III with its unique comet insignia, shot down four British aircraft in three hours.

6 April 1917, Ltn. von Bertrab   #3  Sopwith 1-1/2  #A.1093,               
45 Sqn. RFC, 10.30am   Obigies 

2/Lt. J.A. Marshall, KIA 

2/Lt. F.G. Truscott,KIA.

Regards Stephen

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, June 8, 2007 5:27 PM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Doug!  Glad you decided to join our lil' group build!  The fellas 'round here are great, you're gonna love it here!  I put you down on the list, and you make 20!!!

That's quite a feat!

Mike- I love it!  That DVII of yours is really gonna stand out!

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Friday, June 8, 2007 4:05 PM
Thanks guys! It was a toss-up between #2 and #3 on that sheet. Decided on #3 because I have a bottle of German mauve that I need to use before it goes bad. Wink [;)]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by razordws on Friday, June 8, 2007 2:13 PM

Doug Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the nut house!!!

Mike, nice score on the decal sheet.  Some nice markings on that one Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave

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Posted by wyoroy on Friday, June 8, 2007 1:47 PM

Mike, That's going to look very cool.  Bow [bow]

Roy

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Friday, June 8, 2007 1:26 PM

Darren,

thanks for the link mate! That Camel looks amazing!Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Friday, June 8, 2007 12:54 PM

This is the decal sheet I bought at Finescale Models in N. Vancouver (saw it and couldn't resist!). The bird I'm going to build (in addition to the DH.2) is the third one down.....

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Friday, June 8, 2007 12:34 PM

 wyoroy wrote:
Doug, I say Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to our group build. You will love this group of guys.

...and I second that! Welcome to the forums, and welcome to our group build! Great to have you on board, and we're honored that you chose this as your first GB and first post. That is pretty darn cool! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by wyoroy on Friday, June 8, 2007 10:14 AM

Doug, I say Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to our group build.  You will love this group of guys.  I'm in two other builds with them and I have to say that they are the greatest.

Roy

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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  • From: Kansas City MO
Posted by Dougums on Friday, June 8, 2007 8:17 AM

Hi,

I would like to join in this gb, I am thinking of building a Revell - Fokker Dr.I Richthofen Scale: 1/28. let me know what you think. I cant wait to get started! Big Smile [:D]

 

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:34 PM

 wing_nut wrote:
Another question about rigging.  Is each wire a separate single piece? Or is there some threading involved?  Like starting and one corner and going up/down or back/forth form corner to corner?

Marc, for long runs I would go with individual pieces, especially if you're going to drill through, thread it, and cut flush. I just think it would be easier to get the right tension that way without having to pull too hard.

I use dividers a lot, mainly because I primarily use stainless steel wire, and that stuff is hard to cut, so I want to get it right with the least amount of trimming.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:00 PM

Great looking Camel.  That's the kit I am planning on doing but it does look a bit intimidating.

Another question about rigging.  Is each wire a separate single piece? Or is there some threading involved?  Like starting and one corner and going up/down or back/forth form corner to corner?

When it comes time... I think I'll like the through hole and cut flush method.  I have done that many times with the antenna wires on the WWII birds and I like they way I can get it nice and tight.

A guy in my club uses only stretched sprue and a set of dividers.  Says it is the perfect length every time.

 

Marc  

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Posted by razordws on Thursday, June 7, 2007 9:23 PM
Thanks Darren for that link.  I now have it in my favorites for future reference. Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, June 7, 2007 8:55 PM

Nice Camel! I've made a note on my instruction sheet to test fit those outer struts just in case.

Darren, there are so many rigging mediums I'm not sure where to start. You've got stainless steel wire, fishing line, monofilament thread, EZ line, stretched sprue, elastic thread, human hair (yes, modelers do use this Wink [;)] ), etc. The list goes on and on.

I've tried most of these (at my age I'm hanging on to the hair I have left Wink [;)] ) and the one's I use the most are the steel wire and the EZ line for most of my rigging, and the stretched sprue for shorter runs like control cables. The keys are in how you prep your model and the rigging sequence itself. I study the instructions carefully, determining where to pre-drill my attachment points and what medium I will use where. The sequence is important when attaching it, especially around long runs. Here I have found it is best to work from the inside, out, so you do not have to work around what's already installed. With the three mediums I use, my mounting holes do not have to be drilled all the way through. With others, especially monofilament thread and fishing line, many modelers will attach one point and feed it through a hole drilled completely through the wing, CA it, trim it flush, and touch up the joint with the appropriate color paint.

I hope that helps you. It's a general description, but if you have any more questions that arise , I'll do my best to answer them.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, June 7, 2007 8:24 PM
Wow!  Thanks for the link Darren!  That's quite an impressive lil' bird.

Frank 

 

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Posted by darson on Thursday, June 7, 2007 7:47 PM

Ok lads I need some pointing in the right direction concerning rigging biplanes.  I have seen quite a few "how too's" on the web but I would like to know which method is most recommended and what the heck do I use for rigging.

Also, for a little pre-build inspiration have a look at this little beauty

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2007/05/stuff_eng_gronczewski_camel.htm

Cheers

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, June 7, 2007 4:58 PM
Yep, some mighty friendly people 'round here.  I think our combined experience will help us overcome ANY challenge!  BRING IT ON!!!

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, June 7, 2007 1:42 PM

Thanks buddy! I've been wanting to get to that DH.2 for a long time, & I'm glad I'm finally going to get the chance! Thumbs Up [tup]

That is going to be a real challenge Roy, but remember, you're not going it alone my friend! We've got a lot of great modelers in this GB and I think that everyone is going to benefit significantly from each other's experience and end up with models they'll be proud to display.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, June 7, 2007 1:10 PM

Mike-

Can't wait to see the job you do on that one!  Looks like a tough one, but I know you turn it into a jewel.

Roy-

I read that review too, looks like you are gonna have your hands full too!

Frank 

 

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  • From: The Great State of Wyoming
Posted by wyoroy on Thursday, June 7, 2007 12:05 PM

Here is the kit that I will attempt to build:

I just hope that it will turn out OK.  For those who have read the kit review, you know what Im talking about.

Roy

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:47 AM
 wyoroy wrote:
 razordws wrote:

 Censored [censored] Glutton for punishment I'd say! Whistling [:-^]  What's that other word... oh ya... SADISTIC!

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

After all Mike you are the master in this subject Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow] (the group at your bench LOL)

LMBO!! You guys are a hoot! Laugh [(-D]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by wyoroy on Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:35 AM
 razordws wrote:
 ruddratt wrote:

Hang in there guys! October will be here before ya know it! Wink [;)] Of course I'm in the same boat, too. I just can't stop oogling that DH.2 and psyching myself up for ALL that rigging it needs. Big Smile [:D] For those of you unfamiliar with the DH.2, here's a pic....

 

 Censored [censored] Glutton for punishment I'd say! Whistling [:-^]  What's that other word... oh ya... SADISTIC!

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

After all Mike you are the master in this subject Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow] (the group at your bench LOL)

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by razordws on Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:17 AM
 ruddratt wrote:

Hang in there guys! October will be here before ya know it! Wink [;)] Of course I'm in the same boat, too. I just can't stop oogling that DH.2 and psyching myself up for ALL that rigging it needs. Big Smile [:D] For those of you unfamiliar with the DH.2, here's a pic....

 

 Censored [censored] Glutton for punishment I'd say! Whistling [:-^]  What's that other word... oh ya... SADISTIC!

Dave

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, June 7, 2007 9:55 AM

Hang in there guys! October will be here before ya know it! Wink [;)] Of course I'm in the same boat, too. I just can't stop oogling that DH.2 and psyching myself up for ALL that rigging it needs. Big Smile [:D] For those of you unfamiliar with the DH.2, here's a pic....

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, June 6, 2007 8:01 PM

Dave-

I know how you feel.  I picked up a cheap Roden 1/72 Albatros D.III at my LHS a couple of weeks ago, and have worked on it a lil' here and there as a warm-up.

Frank 

 

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 11:20 PM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] My wife is also grateful that she knows where to find me in the "off" hours! Big Smile [:D]

I too am getting excited about the WWI GB idea, I have almost always built WWII stuff but earlier this year I picked up a bunch of Revell 1/72 Camels in a clearance store for a buck each thinking I just couldn't pass up a deal like that.  Now all you crazy blokes got me all wound up about this and the build doesn't even start for months. Disapprove [V]Angry [:(!]Banged Head [banghead]

Dave

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Posted by wyoroy on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 8:36 PM
 More Power Scotty wrote:

Roy,

I guess it pays to have an understanding wife.  When I left Virginia Beach, VA for my new life in "that state up north" (an inside joke for any Buckeye fans), I  packed 22 unbuilt kits.  That was almost 16 years ago, and the last time I actually did a kit count, I was just over 350.  It has been a few years since I tried that stunt, so I just tell my spouse that I have around 400.  What can I say, nuclear power pays the bills, and leaves enough to support a hobby or two.  Anyway, we will be celebrating our 20th anniversary in October, and as I have to tell her from time to time, at least you know where I am when I am not at work or out riding my bike. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Well put friend

Roy

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by More Power Scotty on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 7:27 PM

Roy,

I guess it pays to have an understanding wife.  When I left Virginia Beach, VA for my new life in "that state up north" (an inside joke for any Buckeye fans), I  packed 22 unbuilt kits.  That was almost 16 years ago, and the last time I actually did a kit count, I was just over 350.  It has been a few years since I tried that stunt, so I just tell my spouse that I have around 400.  What can I say, nuclear power pays the bills, and leaves enough to support a hobby or two.  Anyway, we will be celebrating our 20th anniversary in October, and as I have to tell her from time to time, at least you know where I am when I am not at work or out riding my bike. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Scott
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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 6:51 PM

Darren-

Me too!  I had considered WWI stuff off and on, but never really gave it a chance.  After seeing Mike's stuff, and feeling the excitement of everyone here, I can't wait to start as well!

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 4:42 PM
Thanks for your info Mike, very helpful indeed! I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into this one now!Wink [;)]
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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