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Posted by dupes on Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:16 PM

sanderson_91 - it's never too late to join, as long as you can finish by the first of May! I'm very interested to see that pic, definitely post a scan. Big Smile [:D]

SMJ - looking real good. How much longer do you think you have? And what exactly are you planning on doing with that track overlap? Evil [}:)]

Arki - I'd offer you some of mine but it's probably quicker to go to the LHS. Sorry. And don't worry, there'll be some more A/C in here at some point. Laugh [(-D]

Biffa - good to see you getting your start. Eagerly awaiting updates! Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by Mark Joyce on Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:42 AM
 SMJmodeler wrote:

WIP:  In the homestretch on this one...I need to finish the tools, tracks, add the antenna, snow, and a few other minor items...then the figuresYuck [yuck]...I struggle on those but I gotta' keep trying!!!

Outstanding work, Steve!  I can't wait to see this 'in the flesh,' so to speak.  It makes me want to start one of my armor kits so I can turn to you for your expertise and advice.

Mark

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:30 PM
Looking good, SMJ.  She's definitely dirty and worn. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:19 PM

WIP:  In the homestretch on this one...I need to finish the tools, tracks, add the antenna, snow, and a few other minor items...then the figuresYuck [yuck]...I struggle on those but I gotta' keep trying!!!

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:19 PM

Is it too late to get into this GB?  I just came across a photo of a P-47D of the 61st Fighter Squadron flown by Maj. Donovan Smith that is in a Winter Camouflage scheme.  I'll try to post the photo on Monday when I can scan it at work.  It's on page 31 of the American Fighters Over Europe (published by Finescale).  I've looked on-line for additional photos but haven't found any yet.  Thanks!

Steve

 

 

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, January 19, 2008 3:29 PM

Good progress, guys.  Thumbs Up [tup] I'm getting the "stranger in a strange land" feeling though with all the tanks underway!  Am I the only aircraft guy in here?  Big Smile [:D]

Got the cowling all sorted out although I have lots of seam work ahead of me.  Wings are assembled and there is more seam work at the wingtips since ICM provides the wingtips seperate.  Not really sure why they do that.

Anyway, was about to shoot the underside intake when I realized I'm completely out of RLM 02.  Banged Head [banghead] If it's not one thing, it's six others.....

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Posted by biffa on Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:44 PM

There is some great progress going on here hard to beleive some of you guys are just about done, well i havent had much time on my hands of late but i managed a start, this kit so far as been a breath of fresh air with nothing but beautiful parts that fit without need for any upgrading. I wont be using the lattice decals in the kit it would be almost impossible to weather them properly, anyway here,s what i have so far,,

the spring housing were fitted

suspension arms fitted

wheels and other lower hull details except the hub caps

here i dry fitted the upper hull to check before continuing and it was perfect front and back

next up the tracks hopefully this evening,,

keep up the nice work chaps.

Ron g.
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Posted by SMJmodeler on Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:28 PM

mg42gunner,

Scrap the tape idea!!!  Too difficult, too crisp on the edges, use the "silly putty technique".  There's a "how-to" article in FSM, I forget which issue but's a a somewhat recent one.  The putty molds very easy and doesn't stick to the kit AT ALL.

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:57 AM

I'm going to have to agree with Hermes here - there's no way you're going to get masking tape to a) cover all of the protruding detail and b) not damage it in the process. Silly Putty IS really easy to work with...you'll need 2-3 eggs worth I would think for something that big.

Build looks real good, btw - looking forward to some "real" pics with that first layer of camo! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Saturday, January 19, 2008 9:58 AM

Looks great so far!

Your only realistic masking option, with all the detail you have to mask over, is silly putty. Just roll it out on a piece of glass and then cut it (to ensure you get not only a hard edge, but a straight edge)

Jonathan

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Posted by mg42gunner on Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 PM
Ok, finished construction on the 103c today! I really like the way this tank turned out, It reminds me of one of the kit-bashed model spaceships from star wars. Overall, there was nothing too challenging about the kit, the fit was ok even though some parts were a bit finicky, but overall it went together nicely. Now for thr hard part..the camo...

This weekend Ill be buying plenty of masking tape to get the job done, and ill update w/ pics along the way. Also so far the construction photos I took have been with my mac laptops built in webcam, so the quality isn't as good as my reg. digital cam. Don't worry though, final pics and step by step winter scheme pics will be taken with my real camera. Heres the final tank assembled:









Does anybody have any suggestions for masking the camo out? I know I read somewhere before to use a piece of glass to cut out the tape shapes, but Im not sure what type of tape to go buy?
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Posted by dupes on Friday, January 18, 2008 8:02 PM
Hey bbrowniii, good to have you back! Smile [:)]
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Posted by bbrowniii on Friday, January 18, 2008 3:22 PM

 mg42gunner wrote:
bbrowniii, I built the tamiya 222 a while ago (my third build) In the whitewash scheme. I used tamiya weathering sets (which are really the same thing as pastels or pigments) to get the right effect.









There's more pics in the original thread:

/forums/665191/ShowPost.aspx

It was an easy, fun kit to build. No fit problems whatsoever. It even comes with PE grenade screens, which really looks great.

*I went back and checked the pictures of the 103c tank in winter camo, but Im not sure ill be able to get those hard demarcation lines on the camo with silly putty. Do you think tape will work? It might be a pain to do, but itll give me harder edges.

mg42 - thanks for the pics.  I will definately check out the rest of them in the link you provided.  That is about the exact same look I am going for, so your pics are especially helpful

To all: some really impressive progress is being made since I checked in last.  Sorry for my extended absence, but I hope to be back for awhile now and to get some building in soon!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, January 18, 2008 1:21 PM

I so desperately want the Chargers to beat NE, but I don't think it's going to happen either.

I'll be spending some time in the office this weekend, but should be able to get the fuselage, cowling and wings all together.  I hope.

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Posted by dupes on Friday, January 18, 2008 12:12 PM

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, I don't think the Packers will have too much trouble with the Giants...sorry Giants fans. I'm not of the opinion the Eli reaaaaaly has it when it counts. Nor am I giving the banged-up Chargers much credit either, mostly for the same reason. They should have kept Drew Brees, IMHO.

 

So Winter Warriors, any one else have some good progress to post? Or extensive building plans for the weekend?  Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:04 PM
My problem is that most of my current builds are at or close to the final detailing stage, not exactly something I can do while watching the Packers tromp the Giants (I hope Wink [;)]) So I probably won't get much done Sunday...but should get the M18 construction complete on Saturday, so I can paint during commercialsWhistling [:-^]

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:42 PM

Oooooh, football. Forgot about that part. Shock [:O]

Well, with the wife gone, I suppose I can just spread Panther parts all over the living room couch, coffee table, floor. Wink [;)] It WILL be finished!

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:37 PM
 dupes wrote:

Hermes - you don't happen to have a summary of those issues, do you? Wink [;)]

And I thought that this one was going to be "OOB"...? Laugh [(-D]

 

Some good news and some bad news...which are really the same news. The wife is going to Boston shopping with one of her friends for the weekend, which means I should have 48 hours of  uninterrupted modeling time in my VERY near future! HaHA! Big Smile [:D] I see the Panther conversion/assembly being complete by Sunday night!

Sure, I can post the "issues" when I post my pictures.

And you forget about football! That will be a slight interuption, no?Tongue [:P]

Jonathan

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:28 PM

Hermes - you don't happen to have a summary of those issues, do you? Wink [;)]

And I thought that this one was going to be "OOB"...? Laugh [(-D]

 

Some good news and some bad news...which are really the same news. The wife is going to Boston shopping with one of her friends for the weekend, which means I should have 48 hours of  uninterrupted modeling time in my VERY near future! HaHA! Big Smile [:D] I see the Panther conversion/assembly being complete by Sunday night!

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:14 PM

The AFV M18 is my second-most built kit, after the Tamiya Panther - I've already done two; this will be the third. So...I can throw it together really fast by now, since I know where all the problems are.

I started this morning and completed all of the major construction, and hope to do some PE work this evening on the M2 .50 MG, and add some wire for the brush guards. Then it'll be on to paint!

Jonathan

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:33 AM

Hahaha, no problemo Hermes. I'm going to be doing that same kit for the Hunters GB, so I wouldn't mind seeing yours in progress anyway. Wink [;)]

Are you going to be able to start soon? 

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:19 AM
dupes, if it's okay with you I'll be changing my build once again, to the AFV Club M18 Hellcat. I doubt if I'll have time to do the T-34 project to the level I want it within the GB timeframe, so I'll see about doing the Hellcat OOB (well.....more or less...)

Jonathan

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Posted by arki30 on Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:56 AM

That's exactly correct, there are no alternate exhaust attachments if you don't want to use the engine.  This is ICM's engineering at it's best (tongue in cheek).  The engine is nicely detailed though.   

I removed the exhausts successfully last night.  I think what I'm going to do is glue some tabs to the inside of each cowling for the exhausts to attach to.  The trick will be making sure the tabs "sit" the exhausts correctly when viewed from the exterior. 

I think it will work, just gotta play with it.  I know I've done the right thing because I felt so much better about the build after jettisoning the engine.  Moving forward again Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:16 AM

Too bad on the fit...that's quite an impressive hunk of engine-plastic. Sad [:(]

Is there no "external exhausts" option with the kit? You have to install the engine (or use the engine exhausts) to finish it? I guess what I'm saying is, no replacement part if you don't want to install the engine?

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Posted by arki30 on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:09 PM

Angry [:(!]

Stinkin friggin kit....

Unless the engine is installed dead nutz correct then you have zero chance of getting the 4 (!) part cowling together.  One guess as to whether or not I installed the engine perfectly...Yuck [yuck]Censored [censored]

So, since I really only need the engine because the exhausts are attached to it, I cut the engine free.  Now I'll carefully remove the exhausts and go to plan B.

One step forward, four steps back.

 

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:05 AM

Hermesminiatures,

Thanks for the comment and suggestion.

I plan to hide that seam with snow.  These tracks have been REALLY tough to work with (long story)  and I knew from the start I would need to deal with that seam.

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:45 AM
My only suggestion would be to put the seam in the tracks around ither the sprocket or the idler where it can't be seen so obviously. Other than that, it looks great.

Jonathan

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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:02 AM

Juicy! Big Smile [:D]

I'm certainly not seeing much that needs improvement. I guess fire the rest of the accessories on there and let's see how she looks done! Cool [8D]

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:18 AM

Warriors,

Besides the tracks (which will be covered with snow), graphite hightlights, dirt, pastels and the usually goodies...spare treads, cables, antenna, headlight, etc...does anybody see anything I'm missing or need to address?...you know how it is when you look at your own work long enough, you tend to miss something obvious.

Thanks for any input.

SMJ

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:51 PM

dupes- I'm still deciding on how to apply a winter schemes.

Heres some more progress photos.

 

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