2008 Airliner Group Build

Gentlemen--

I edited the participant list...I guess I'm being anal but I wanted the list to be in a uniform format. Now you know why I'm an editor!

I made some assumptions on scale and (in one case) manufacturer. Please check your listing and let me know right away if I've made it inaccurate in any way.

I might not be back until 2008, so everybody have a happy New Years Eve and New Years Day!

Very nice work, Frank! I can't imagine it looking any better!

How do you handle the areas where paint was applied over the natural metal on the real aircraft, like the gray around the wing root? Do you trim the foil to match the edge of the paint, or do you lay down foil on the whole area and paint over it?

That's coming along very well, Frank.  Paint is sometimes easier than decals, isn't it, even if it doesn't seem so when the decals are still fresh on the sheet.

Goodmorning all,

CD; I'll get to them eventually I guess, maybe things will level off around here and I'll have more time to build.... if not, I'll 'holler'.

I thought I'd publish a couple of update pictures of the 737-200, as the markings are beginning to make there way on the model.

I applied the blue cheatline from the ATP decal sheet, but it was too wide, so I applied some white pinstripe decals in an attempt to thin them out. That didn't work because the blue & white contrasted so bad it took several of those pin stripes to mask it.... which looked awful! I removed all of it, re-painted the white, and went to apply another blue cheatline from the YS-11 sheet.... even after overspraying the sheet before starting, the decal completely desintegrated when I tried to slide it on! Finally, I reverted to the "old school" method of just masking and painting the cheatline.... take that!

After the blue dried, I applied a clear film decal over the window holes to make clear window glass, then tomorrow I'll put on the silver window frames.



After I get the rest of the decals applied, I'll overspray it with glosscoat and work on the landing gears while it's curing.



It's coming along... driving me crazy along the way, but it's coming along!



Take care,

Frank

Jeaton, I wasn't familiar with the F-13, so I checked it out on Wikipedia, and it defeinitely qualifies for this build. Looks like it's going to be a real beaut when you're done with it. I'll add it to the front page of the thread.

Aaron, if Airliners inspires you half as much as Finescale inspires me, you're going to be an airliner building machine! (Aren't wives who support our airplane obsessions the greatest?)

oldhooker wrote:

Don't know where I'm going to find enough time to build them all...

Well Frank, if you want to send them to me, I'll find time to build them! I'd be glad to do you that favor. :-)

I got a Junkers F-13 as my gift in the Secret Santa GB, so I will append it here too if it's OK.  It was one of the first "airliners", no? 

I have so many kits in the stash that all my near and dear ones can't see the need for more.  And they are right.  But, my wife gives me no static about modeling and the grandkids sometimes help with the building, and those are the best gifts of all.

Well, it sounds like you all had a good Christmas, and I did as well... lets see...

I got a B-47E in 1/144, a Dash-8 in 1/72, a DC-9-31 in 1/144 with old Southern Airways livery, a 1/48 UH-1C, and the book "Flight of the Pacemaker" about the history, and eventual   *scr*wing* of Piedmont Airline emplyees. 

  

 The whole family knows I love Modeling, so... at least I don't get four different kinds of aftershave!! LOL

Don't know where I'm going to find enough time to build them all... so I'll start out by reading the book.      They say it's a good read... I'm looking forward to getting into it. 

 Take care,

  Frank

cdclukey wrote:

Hey all-- Anybody get any nice Christams gifts?

My wife got me a subscription to Airliners magazine so I'll have all kinds of inspiration for this GB.

Hey all--

Anybody get any nice Christmas gifts?

I already had my main modeling gifts and I'm building them for this build, but my son did get me some superglue.

I've never scratch built before, but I MIGHT try to open up one of the engine nacelles and depict an engine change on my 777

Anyone now who (if any) make a resin/plastic PW4084 engine in 1/144 scale?

We are dealing with the "hay day" of industrial design. Braniffs colors were designed by Emilio Pucci.

Thanks, Rich. Hope you and yours have a Christmas that's "Finest Kind."

Here are a couple of questions some of you guys may feel like answering while you have the day off Monday.

1. Does anyone know where I can find good photos or other color data for the Braniff Jellybean jets? The Minicraft instructions list 2 Testors paint colors and one FS standard, but all other colors are just a one word description like "Ochre" or "Green." There are a few photos on airliners.net, but I'm coming up dry otherwise. (If necessary, I'll go with one of the three colors I have the data on, but I'd like to know what my exact choices are.)

2. On the wings of the old Pan Am 707s, were there two different natural metal shades, or one natural metal shade and one paint shade? The Minicraft instructions list the second color as "Flat Aluminum," but I don't trust their color recommendations--they list the white on my Braniff jet as a light gray, for instance. In the photos I've reviewed the Pan Am color looks like it could either be metal or gray paint/corroguard. Anybody know what's up?

Rich-- Today I got a package from my brother and his fiance: An LL Bean Maine Gift Set. Blueberry muffin mix, pancake mix and jam, plus Maine Maple syrup and a dishtowel, all contained in a birchbark basket. A heck of a gift.

cd --

Merry Christmas!!! and I know how you feel!

I'm New England born and raised (just outside of Boston) and I got quite homesick during my 10+ years in Seattle.  I missed the seasons, I missed the sports (...a Boston Bruins fan since I was a wee lad!) and I definetly missed real Maple syrup!  I didn't miss the bugs though, but we all must have a cross to bare .

Now I'm back;  Maine is the third New England state I've lived in and so far I like it the most.  I work by the sea, I work on traditional wooden boats, my wife and I live in a Colonial (though modular and built in 2001) with two acres of trees and nature.  Deer and wild turkey roam through the yard.  Couldn't ask for much more...well I could, but ...

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you and yours and to everyone!

 

Mate. I lived in Georgia, so S C wouldn't be a bad posting in my eyes.. Let me know what you do, have a talk to your boss, and I am all ears!. You can take my place, and yes I have to be a circus bear to do my job, but because you seem like a good sport, then you will have fun doing the job and getting to live in Japan for a while!

ps, got a nice 4 bedroom house (rare for Japan) surrounded by rice fields, and a mouse that thinks he owns the place! 

But in all honesty. It would be nice if it where that easy.. 

Chris 

Tell you what, Chris. You come do my job and I'll go do yours. We can trade up even - no one is out anything! And dont worry, a half trained circus bear can do mine.

 

You are lucky.. I lived in the US a few years ago and have wanted to return ever since, just fell in love with the place.. But no one wants to sponsor employee's anymore, and even though I am an Aussie, it doesn't seem to be easy for anyone to get a visa to live and work.. Its a shame, because although it is a little time consuming and a little bit of paperwork, it seems no one is interested anymore.. I have wanted to return for good. And the fact the wife loves the place too is also a big plus.. But unless I can hook a sponsored job, then I don't have a chance..

 If I don't get a chance before hand, I want to wish everyone a Merry Xmas and a happy new year. We are a day ahead here in Japan, so didn't want to miss giving my wishes to everyone..

Cheers, Chris 

Rich--

Today I got a package from my brother and his fiance: An LL Bean Maine Gift Set. Blueberry muffin mix, pancake mix and jam, plus Maine Maple syrup and a dishtowel, all contained in a birchbark basket. A heck of a gift.

I miss Maine a lot sometimes, but I love the Midwest.

Good luck with the build, Rich. You can get 'er done. BTW, what part of Maine are you in? I grew up in Scarborough and Hollis.

Thanks for the encouragement...I'm going to need it!!! 

I live in Woolwich, just north of Bath...moved here five years ago after 15 years in the Aerospace Industry as an Engineer;  I worked for Pratt & Whitney and Boeing.  I helped design the engines for the 777 while working at Pratt and helped design the nacelles and Ground Support Equipment (GSE) for the 777 propulsion system while working at Boeing.  I've never scratch built before, but I MIGHT try to open up one of the engine nacelles and depict an engine change on my 777.

Now I'm building/repairing wooden boats in Boothbay Harbor and loving every minute of it !

David...

Take care,

Frank

Welcome aboard, dahut!

Put me down for the GB. Ill be doing a 727-200 series, livery unknown. The Academy kit I have came with United markings, but I may turn up something more snazzy. Im in.

Thanks for clearing that up, Frank, and for the sympathy. I've got a B-52 wing in my spares box that should make a good testing ground for your technique, so I'll give it a shot.

 

cdclukey wrote:

Thanks for the tip, Frank...but now I'm all confused...probably me, not you, I have a head cold that's slowing my brain down. If I'm using a rattle can of glosscoat, are you saying I should lay down a coat, let it dry, apply a second coat and then apply the foil? Also, are you saying I should decant some of the glosscoat so I can brush it on?

Hi cd,

   Sorry about your cold, and sorry about the confusion... let me try again;

Back when I did the Continental B738, I found the foil easier to apply than on the current B732.    

**NOTICE:  BEFORE application, lay the piece of foil, outer side down, on a magazine with a smooth slick cover... then using a 1/2 inch ROUND exacto handle, press & roll over the piece of foil.   (this is why I had the large round handled scalpel I stabbed myself with so close by)    This step will make the applying process much easier.**

The only thing I had done differently with the 738 is that I sprayed raddle-can glosscoat to the entire airplane a couple days earlier.     Then when I actually APPLIED the pieces of foil, I hand brushed some decanted glosscoat (thin coat) to the specific area THAT piece was going, waited a couple minutes for it to turn *tacky*, then position one corner of the foil piece.

Once it's aligned, I used my thumb to begin pressing it, in a fanning motion back and forth until I reached the other end, making sure the was no gaps/overlaps between adjoining pieces.     

To get an exact imprint of the next piece you'll need, lay some foil over the section of the fuselage you're working on, rub across it, then trim along the lines INSIDE the wrinkle line.     If a wrinkle developes that won't flatten out, you must move back to the last flat area and make the cut there.        This requires extensive dry-fitting and sometimes trimming out multiple pieces before getting one that works.     

Please don't hesitate asking questions, as I'll be happy to assist any way I can. :)

Aaron,

Thank you, sir.    I'm going to be dressing it up like the Piedmont Airlines, "Piedmont Pacemaker".

Take care,

Frank

  

Great work so far all around. I have the fuselage of my 738 glued to together and have been working on filling sanding etc....not a whole lot of work, but time consuming. I'm about to place an order for the Qantas decals.....huge thanks to Draw decals for producing these for a 738!! :)

Quick question: what is the correct Acrylic paint match for the Qantas Red? TIA 

Welcome aboard, Neil, glad to have you!

oldhooker wrote:

Hi,     Yes, there are adhesives specifically for applying foil, but I've found that a raddle-can of Testors Glosscoat works great!      I also discovered that it works much better if you've already got a dried coat applied BEFORE putting to foil on.      You just brush a thin coat to the area you're putting the foil on, then start at one end of it and press it down in a FANNING motion as you go, which presses the wrinkles out.     After it's applied, you can use the handle of one of your paint brushes (rubbed back & forth across the foil, but DO NOT apply preassure.... just slide it back and forth.

Thanks for the tip, Frank...but now I'm all confused...probably me, not you, I have a head cold that's slowing my brain down. If I'm using a rattle can of glosscoat, are you saying I should lay down a coat, let it dry, apply a second coat and then apply the foil? Also, are you saying I should decant some of the glosscoat so I can brush it on?

Great work on the 732, BTW.

 

bondoman wrote:

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Thank you for the information. It worked!  I'm looking forward to the build. I just got the Air India decals from AHS last night so I'm anxious to begin.

Neil

 

Frank,

That 737-2 looks great. What scheme are you dressing it up in? I have a couple of these old kits in my stash and your build is inspiring me to get one out and finish it.
Thanks for the posts.

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