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2008 Airliner Group Build

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Posted by bablenw on Monday, December 17, 2007 10:52 PM

I'm a newbie to the GB area but not to the Forums. I'm an airliner buff too and I'd like to join in this, my first GB, with a Minicraft B-777 in the New Air India scheme?

Also, how do I add the GB logo I see in my posts?

Thank you

Neil 

 

 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, December 17, 2007 8:46 PM

Looking good Frank..

Chris 

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Posted by oldhooker on Monday, December 17, 2007 6:26 PM
 cdclukey wrote:

Would spray adhesive or Future work for this task? If so, should they be applied to the foil, or to the surface of the model?

 Hi,

    Yes, there are adhesives specifically for applying foil, but I've found that a raddle-can of Testors Glosscoat works great!      I also discovered that it works much better if you've already got a dried coat applied BEFORE putting to foil on.      You just brush a thin coat to the area you're putting the foil on, then start at one end of it and press it down in a FANNING motion as you go, which presses the wrinkles out.     After it's applied, you can use the handle of one of your paint brushes (rubbed back & forth across the foil, but DO NOT apply preassure.... just slide it back and forth.  

    Also, I didn't mean to override you on the group build badge; I found that cool promotional picture of the B787 and fixed it up.   I'm glad you all like it though.      The original makes a great screensaver for those of us who are afflicted with this Airliner bug. Big Smile [:D]    http://gunsagogo.org/punchingahole.jpg

   Finally finished all the sub-assemblies on the B732 and began putting all the elements together. :)


  Then I took her out for her very first trip around the patch...

It is now covered in the slick stuff and resting in the hangar for the next couple days to keep the dust-bunnies off. :)

Thanks, and take care,
Frank

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, December 17, 2007 3:19 PM

Yeah, I heard that too, but kinda rude since I had already started it! he he he

Oh well, I dont mind really, it will only allow me to improve on it, so cant complain.. Its getting the decals that I am having trouble with.. The tail is fine as I will mask that off and spray it, but I will need to replace one side of the door and window decals on both of them..

Chris 

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                          1/48 RAAF 3 Sqn F/A-18B

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Posted by cdclukey on Monday, December 17, 2007 12:09 PM

Hey, here's a question related to Frank's landing light technique that I hope one of you can answer.

I'm looking at using household aluminum foil to simulate at least some of the metal on my Braniff and Pan Am builds. Though the Microscale adhesive is pretty inexpensive, the hobby shop here in town doesn't carry it, so I'd have to take a road trip or pay shipping, and I'm considering materials close at hand.

Would spray adhesive or Future work for this task? If so, should they be applied to the foil, or to the surface of the model?

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, December 17, 2007 11:25 AM
It's one of the perks of being a graphic designer!
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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Monday, December 17, 2007 9:11 AM
Chris,

I think Qantas wanted to mess with modelers when they decided to change their tail logos. I read it has to to with an area on the tail they can't paint so the roo's leg needed to be moved. Then they decided to alter the font they use for the Qantas titles. Just when we were all getting ready to build A380s in Qantas colors.

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Posted by cdclukey on Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:55 PM
Ouch, Chris! But hey, just think how good they'll look when you're done!
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:27 AM

Although it may be a little while before I can begin on this GB, I thought I would go up stairs and see if I could find the box with the started kits that I will re-do for this build, and I was surprised with what I found..

I must have been drunk or in a hurry when I was building these two, and so will definately need to re-do them.. For starters, the QANTAS A380 will have a completely different kangaroo logo when it first fly's on the tail and the paint is what I would describe as bad.. So it will be re-sanded and re-done.. The JAL 747-400 has a big hole in the tail from putty being spilled on it and melting through, and the home made decals I made for it have changed colour.. So it will also be re-done..

The problem now is, that I will need to get a new set of window and door , as well as cockpit decals for both of them...

 

Chris 

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                          1/48 RAAF 3 Sqn F/A-18B

                          1/150 /1/160 N Scale Japanese Rail diorama.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, December 14, 2007 7:18 PM

Frank, glad to see you are back, glad you liked the Staggerwing.  Sounds like you and your wife went on a nice adventure.  We had an empty nest for awhile, but now my mother in law lives with us and we play with the grandkids a lot, so it didn't last long.

There is a pretty active airline newsgroup on Yahoo, AMD or Airliner Modeling Digest.  Quite a few model builders there and lots of conversation at times.  Who knows, maybe general aviation and airliners are the wave of the future!

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Friday, December 14, 2007 7:04 PM

Just added it to my sig also.. No complaints here..

Frank, I also know your feeling when you lose interest in this hobby at times.. I basically went most of this year, starting Nov 06.. I didnt touch a thing over the Xmas break and then only picked up a kit about 2 months ago.. But its always good to rattle the plastic after a lay off and get the juices flowing again..

Chris 

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                          1/48 RAAF 3 Sqn F/A-18B

                          1/150 /1/160 N Scale Japanese Rail diorama.

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Posted by cdclukey on Friday, December 14, 2007 2:14 PM
Yeah, I was going to work on build badges this weekend, but I can't see doing any better than Frank's.
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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Friday, December 14, 2007 1:24 PM
Frank,

I like your idea for the GB badge. I'm going to add it to my sig line.

Cheers!

Aaron Skinner

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Posted by cdclukey on Friday, December 14, 2007 12:58 AM

Aaron, that looks like it's going to be downright gorgeous.

Frank, thanks, and great work on that bird in the photos.

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Posted by oldhooker on Friday, December 14, 2007 12:12 AM
 cdclukey wrote:

Frank--

OK...I'll put your 737-900 down. Is it going to be a Continental bird like the one in the pic?

Also, please feel free to post stuff from your build here. It's funny that you should say you're doing it in case it might help somebody, and then you post that landing light pic, which is just what I needed to solve a problem with my two 707s.

Feel free to keep 'em comin'!

Thanks,

Real looking landing lights r e a l l y make a difference in the overall appearance! I know your '707' will like 'em too!

I haven't decided if the -900 will be a Continental bird or not... trying to get that thin, fragile gold decal all the way around the model in a straight line, without breaking into pieces, still spawns nightmares!! Shock [:O]

Here's some progress shots... I still have to do the rivet lines (accomplished with a selection of metal gears from and old wind-up pocket watch), then maybe I can finally get the first coat of slick stuff on.

It sure sounds like there's going to be a nice selection of Airliners in this GB!      I'm looking forward to it!     

 

*Jeaton, and any others who were part of the "General Aviation GB":  I apologize for disappearing halfway through that.... I got away from modeling there for a while when the wife and I found ourselves dealing with a bout of "Empty Nest Syndrome" and I just kind put everything up.     The Cap20 is probably within a couple days being finished, but I just haven't picked it back up.      After we got home our x-country vacation in September, I felt refreshed so I bought one of the Revell B738's and built it after the one we flew across on... and that project helped get my mind right again! Smile [:)]     I saw your BEAUTIFUL Staggerwing built before I disappeared, and the others that were completed!   Very inspiring!   

 Take care all,

Frank

 

 

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:46 PM
 cdclukey wrote:

Aaron, could you confirm for me that your 767 is going to be in Australian Airlines colors? I'm not aware of the Aussie Government/military having any 767s, but I could very easily be wrong.

BTW...if it is AA that's a great choice. Their livery was just gorgeous.



Yep, Australian Airlines. As a way of motivating myself, here are the kit and the great set of markings from Draw Decals I'll be using:



Looking forward to doing this. If I get it wrapped up, I have a beautiful set of decals for the Air Niugini's Bird of Paradise A300 I might apply to the Airfix Airbus:

Big Bird!


Thanks!

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Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:39 AM
Good luck with the build, Rich. You can get 'er done. BTW, what part of Maine are you in? I grew up in Scarborough and Hollis.
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Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:35 AM

Aaron, could you confirm for me that your 767 is going to be in Australian Airlines colors? I'm not aware of the Aussie Government/military having any 767s, but I could very easily be wrong.

BTW...if it is AA that's a great choice. Their livery was just gorgeous.

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Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:26 AM
Great AJB! Welcome aboard!
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Posted by AJB93 on Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:48 AM
Yes! I'm in, 1/144 Revell 738 w/ Qantas markings and Minicraft 707-320B in Pan-Am markings
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Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:40 AM

Frank--

OK...I'll put your 737-900 down. Is it going to be a Continental bird like the one in the pic?

Also, please feel free to post stuff from your build here. It's funny that you should say you're doing it in case it might help somebody, and then you post that landing light pic, which is just what I needed to solve a problem with my two 707s.

Feel free to keep 'em comin'!

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Posted by oldhooker on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:35 PM

Thanks, Frank! I'll check those out. Let me know if you decide you want in on this build.

Yes, you can sign me up. Smile [:)] My build will be a Revell 737-800, kitbashed to a "-900" in a "down & dirty" configuration with deflected Spoilers and Reverse Thrusters engaged (no aftermaket accessories will be used). It will be mounted something like this:

(I know that's an -800, but it's the correct pose) Smile [:)]

Meanwhile, I will continue coverage of my current build and post pictures and illustrations of my progress, in the event they may be of use to someone, if that's okay?

Thanks, and take care,

Frank

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Posted by cdclukey on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:46 PM
I've always loved the lines of the Caravelle, and that's going to be a sweet build.
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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:56 PM

I'm excited about this one. The Caravelle has always been a favorite of mine- dates me I guess. When I was a kid we flew all over on employee passes, Convair 440's, Caravelles, Viscounts and DC-4/6s. Dad recruited engineers to UAL with promises to work in the Concorde program, which he headed at UAL.

Someones gotta do a what-if Concorde. There was a great story on that a while back (sorry aaron) that is still available. I think it was Continental had their colors on one side and BA on the other, in reality. Pan Am, UAL, Delta all had mock-up schemes. JAL, Royal Saudia.

Sorry. Here's my subject.

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Posted by cdclukey on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:22 PM

I wish you and the others all the best in your GB!    If you can generate enough interest to prompt folks to interact with Airliner builds, more power to you!

I've had a build in progress posted in the Aircraft section for several days now, of the 737-200 kitbash I'm currently doing .   I also posted an easy scratchbuilt fix to the CFM engine nacells on the Revell 737NG, but again, spider webs have filled the rooms that they're in.     

Best of luck,

Frank

Thanks, Frank! I'll check those out. Let me know if you decide you want in on this build.

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:34 PM
 oldhooker wrote:

cdclukey wrote the following post at 12-11-2007 12:47 AM: Chris, I don't see any point in me quibbling over whether something's already got work done on it. Consider both birds included. Welcome aboard!

 I wish you and the others all the best in your GB!    If you can generate enough interest to prompt folks to interact with Airliner builds, more power to you!

I've had a build in progress posted in the Aircraft section for several days now, of the 737-200 kitbash I'm currently doing .   I also posted an easy scratchbuilt fix to the CFM engine nacells on the Revell 737NG, but again, spider webs have filled the rooms that they're in.     

Best of luck,

Frank

 

Frank, I know how you feel mate.. I dont know why it is with Airliners, but there is a cult following out there for them, and in saying that, people like taking pictures of them. But they dont like building them?.. Its a strange one for me..

I have always loved building them, and collect everything from kits to diacast display models. But as I enjoy building many different subjects, sometimes the Airliners take a back seat at times..

I saw the build you are working on and was impressed with what you have done so far.. I had planned to do a full detailed version of the A380, but I sort of lost interest and other priorities took over. It is the same with the 747-400 I was building, and so thats why they have sat in a box for so long.. I would suggest you add the kit you are doing to the group build, as I am sure if mine are already started, then I guess you fit in there as well..

 Cheers, Chris

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Posted by PontiacRich on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:21 PM

I know a year seems like plenty of time to build a kit... But, alas Ashamed [*^_^*] there never seems to be enough time!

I will endeavour to strategize, synergize and create a turn-key airplane...Sorry folks, just had to get back into that Boeing speak in preparation for this journey  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]!


Rich - "And when the Band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" - Pink Floyd

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Posted by oldhooker on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:42 AM

cdclukey wrote the following post at 12-11-2007 12:47 AM: Chris, I don't see any point in me quibbling over whether something's already got work done on it. Consider both birds included. Welcome aboard!

 I wish you and the others all the best in your GB!    If you can generate enough interest to prompt folks to interact with Airliner builds, more power to you!

I've had a build in progress posted in the Aircraft section for several days now, of the 737-200 kitbash I'm currently doing .   I also posted an easy scratchbuilt fix to the CFM engine nacells on the Revell 737NG, but again, spider webs have filled the rooms that they're in.     

Best of luck,

Frank

 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:06 AM

Thanks, the January start is also a bonus as I have a whole heap of stuff to do before then.. But they have been sitting in the big box with about 50 other projects wanting to be re-done and completed..

Chris 

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Posted by cdclukey on Monday, December 10, 2007 11:47 PM
Chris, I don't see any point in me quibbling over whether something's already got work done on it. Consider both birds included. Welcome aboard!
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