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                        ARMOR - Panther (PzKpfw V) Group Build (any scale)

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:06 PM
                        DWIGHT:
                        Awesome! Your build speed is remarkable!

                        You did a great job on the numbers. Did you free hand them or stencil them? I'm going to put dry xfers on mine tonight (fingers crossed)

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                        tigerman
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:14 PM
                        Well let me add great job to everyones builds. I was making some good progress than ran into a roadblock. I was going to do the ambush scheme, but I'm beginning to hate my references. Seems they are different. They give me two options to do it. One is dunkelgelb leaves over the green and red; another way is red leaves in the dunkelgelb and dunkelgelb leaves in the green and red. Does anyone have any good line drawings or a good reference with this scheme? I was going to airbrush them, but it doesn' seem like it would work correctly.

                        Second, what's the best weathering method for this scheme. I've heard of buff sprayed over it to fade it out a little. Any others? Thanks.

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        Dwight Ta-ala
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:25 PM
                        Muzzleflash: I did it free hand with a very sharp and stiff brush.

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                        spector822002
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                          December 2003
                        • From: Southern Maine
                        Posted by spector822002 on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:31 PM
                        Wipw: reagarding the fruil tracks ( you probably already know what I am about to say here ) there are at least 2 different types of tracks for the panther they are different and won't fit the other vehicle properly so make sure you get the right one for your model 2 I know of here are #atl-33 for the panther ausf D( and I think ausf A early but not sure there) ,,,, #atl-08 panther late type track ( probably for ausf G and late A)
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                        spector822002
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                          December 2003
                        • From: Southern Maine
                        Posted by spector822002 on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:35 PM
                        Nice job there dwight ,... can't wait to see it done those decals are a bummer aren't they , I put some by dragon on a pkwIII tonight and they just fell apart on me good thing I had extras cuz it took me 4 to get them all on the tank . Are you going to put it in a dio ?
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:42 PM
                        spector: Initially yes. I actually have a Tank Re-supply Crew for it. But now I am planning to use the crew on my previous dio after I repainted my Panther G. This one may wait for a while until I get a space for it in a dio.

                        Thanks.

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:59 PM
                        Superb work Dwight!
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                        obiwan
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                          May 2003
                        • From: Malaysia
                        Posted by obiwan on Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:33 PM
                        Wow spectacular pare!
                        and in your signature "caught in spotlight in the middle of the
                        night" photography.
                        looking forward to its completion

                        regards,
                        eng huiCool [8D]Wink [;)]
                        What baby wants baby gets
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 2:02 AM
                        2:04 am.Sleepy [|)].....chirp..... chirp...............chirp,chirp....still a workin... Oh I hate being the only editor that actually edits..Sign - Dots [#dots]..... I know I know....Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]

                        5:28.....still at work and its a new day... Looks like no sleep again...Sad [:(]
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 9:22 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by spector822002

                        Wipw: reagarding the fruil tracks ( you probably already know what I am about to say here ) there are at least 2 different types of tracks for the panther they are different and won't fit the other vehicle properly so make sure you get the right one for your model 2 I know of here are #atl-33 for the panther ausf D( and I think ausf A early but not sure there) ,,,, #atl-08 panther late type track ( probably for ausf G and late A)


                        Actually, the early tracks are just for the D. The later ones are for all the A's and the Gs'. I don't know if rebuilt D's used the later track.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 9:29 AM
                        Hey Dwight, looking real good, especially OOB. I'm doing an early A from Wiking in spring of '44, so my Panther will also be all yellow, but with Zimmerit. No white camo. (I'm doing one of the vehicles from the much-photographed 5th company.)

                        I was going to use the kit links too, and actually spent a lot of time on them, but now I am considering putting the friuli treads on. I've put a lot of aftermarket junk on my tank, and I may want to just go all the way. Hmmm.

                        Meanwhile, our panthers may both turn out yellow, but we are as different as can be in modeling speeds! Last night I applied precisely one area of zimmerit to the hull -- found it to be too short (curse you, Mirage!) and had to use some extra zimm to fill the gap. Grrrrrrrr!

                        No way I'll be finished by Feb 1, but I will shoot for it anyway. If I don't, I'll never finish the thing.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 10:08 AM
                        DDT:
                        that looks great !
                        probably a silly question, but i'm wondering what it's markings r...
                        (kursk, afrika corps...?)
                        just trying 2 learn something here...Wink [;)]
                        u'll b working on ur sherman before too long, i think !
                        frostySmile [:)]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 10:21 AM
                        Im doing my Panther A early all yellow too, im baseing it on a photo of a Panther in Italy
                        it will have horizontal zimmerit and i will be adding it myself (fingers crossed)

                        Frosty
                        the boom jig photo is from the Tiger Model Designs web site (i didnt do it)Smile [:)]

                        i cant get on Rons site now with the link i had and some photos are the dreaded red x

                        Petbat your interior looks great

                        and Silly Putty i think ive seen it now if its in a little egg. if you can roll it up in a ball and then bounce it, it was silly putty Smile [:)]

                        muzzleflash you jagdpanther looks great
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 10:30 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman

                        Im doing my Panther A early all yellow too, im baseing it on a photo of a Panther in Italy
                        it will have horizontal zimmerit and i will be adding it myself (fingers crossed)


                        Caveman, didn't some of the early A's in Italy get shipped from the very first batch -- the ones w/o the zimm? I am only adding the dreaded stuff because I have to for the vehicles I am recreating.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 10:38 AM
                        by the looks of the photo the zimmerit was applied in the field,
                        im always putting of zimming tanks Blush [:I] once i do this one i might be up to doing a TigerSmile [:)]
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 10:40 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman

                        Im doing my Panther A early all yellow too, im baseing it on a photo of a Panther in Italy
                        it will have horizontal zimmerit and i will be adding it myself (fingers crossed)

                        Frosty
                        the boom jig photo is from the Tiger Model Designs web site (i didnt do it)Smile [:)]

                        i cant get on Rons site now with the link i had and some photos are the dreaded red x

                        Petbat your interior looks great

                        and Silly Putty i think ive seen it now if its in a little egg. if you can roll it up in a ball and then bounce it, it was silly putty Smile [:)]

                        muzzleflash you jagdpanther looks great


                        Jon: that's the stuff alrite ! it bounces, it stretches, it'll even lift up newsprint
                        (stretch the cartoon characters into funny shapes...)
                        what do they call it in the UK ?
                        frostySmile [:)]
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                        wipw
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Friday, January 16, 2004 10:43 AM
                        Spector;

                        I got the ModelKasten SK-10 tracks for the late A/G Panther. They really look nice, but are very time intensive. I've been getting 6 links done a day (the size of the gluing jig). At that rate, it should only take me 28!! days to finish them. Going to have to step that up! The Fruil stuff I was talking about was a set of sprockets to replace the kit ones I glued together without the vinyl inserts. But last night I followed advice and cut them apart with my razor saw. That worked very well, but made the sprockets too narrow by about .015 inches. I glued a piece of .010 and .005 styrene on the center of the hub and after letting the glue dry, carved it to match the hub. Then carved out the center hole, inserted the vinyl insert (making VERY sure they were in the hubs and oriented correctly, and glued the other side of the sprocket back on. It worked great, and after hitting the hub with a little dunkelgleb, I think will be almost undetectable. Thanks for the advice, everyone. That's what these group builds are all about!

                        Bill
                        Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 10:54 AM
                        Frosty
                        I’m not sure what they call it here, I just remember my dad (he’s a lecturer) got some for a class about materials. I’m going to ask him where he got it from
                        Smile [:)]
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                        nmayhew
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Kent, England
                        Posted by nmayhew on Friday, January 16, 2004 11:32 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman

                        Frosty
                        I’m not sure what they call it here, I just remember my dad (he’s a lecturer) got some for a class about materials. I’m going to ask him where he got it from
                        Smile [:)]


                        Captain Caveman when you do find out please please please let me know!!Smile [:)] i tried to order the stuff in from the US but they wouldn't ship overseas, and they could'nt help me with finding a UK agentEvil [}:)]; that was a while back, and i kind of gave up since thenDisapprove [V].

                        all,
                        the pics i've seen on here look absolutely great!!Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]
                        i still can't get my camo finished until my compressor oil gets here!!Evil [}:)]Angry [:(!]Black Eye [B)], and somehow i'm just not as ingenious as the germans in late WWII at getting making synthetic oil out of anything and everything!!Laugh [(-D]

                        regards,
                        nick
                        Kind regards, Nicholas
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 11:50 AM
                        Oh ya'll are makin me home sick... I haven't seen my Panther in two days. I have been sitting here working (editing) for the last 28 hours strait.... Show schedules are a Censored [censored] !!

                        The mud should be dry by now so now I'm anxious to start painting it... But not before a.... Zzz [zzz] even if I have to Banged Head [banghead] myself unconcious... I have enough caffine in me right now it may come to that...

                        Can't wait to see ya'll progress over the weekend...
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                        wipw
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Friday, January 16, 2004 12:55 PM
                        Jon and Nick, if nothing else, I'm sure someone over on this side of the pond could send you some. I will certainly do that, if you desire. It's not a hazardous substance, so I don't see any shipping problems. The stuff only costs about $2.00 an egg, and might be found cheaper in some places.
                        Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 12:59 PM
                        We can float you some over in a bottle....Big Smile [:D] Yeah I'd try to send some over.. Its like dirt cheap at Hobby Lobby. Hey Bill..............new market..! Worth a fortune...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 1:38 PM
                        ive found some thing called Tricky putty at Toys r us UK for £2.99 it looks the same

                        but it smells

                        im going to check out Joke shops for the proper stuff, they must sell it here its been going 60 years
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 2:11 PM
                        What does it smell like....Mine smells like silly putty.....Big Smile [:D]

                        Hopefully it will do the trick... Its a great tool and super easy to work with. HOWEVER. When I get around to posting some updated pics. Ya'll will notice that my Kitty has suffered some battle damage..in the sense of a missing rt front fender. You got to be careful peel the putty off, if it gets hooked on something it ain't forgiving... I would have glued the fender back on had I noticed it was laying in my chair before I sat down.. Now its back to un-folded PE.....Black Eye [B)] I;m not gonna worry about it... The mounting bracket is there and its kinda cool...
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 2:43 PM
                        First time using dry transfers, I HIGHLY recommend them!!!

                        I managed to knock some track off while putting on my insignias, 1 step forward, 1 1/2 steps back Sign - Dots [#dots]Sign - Dots [#dots]Sign - Dots [#dots]censoredSign - Dots [#dots]Sign - Dots [#dots]Sign - Dots [#dots]

                        Ok, coming along on my dio, it will focus on the moment before a violent encounter.....(more info later) Tongue [:P]

                        I'm finishing up with my crew. How many men were in each Jagdpanther? Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver.... is 4 correct? Also, am I correct by having green and/or black uniforms with pink piping on black?
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 2:57 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by muzzleflash88

                        'm finishing up with my crew. How many men were in each Jagdpanther? Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver.... is 4 correct?


                        Don't forget ol' Uwe, the Radio Operator! (In udda woids, Jagdpanther had five.)
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Friday, January 16, 2004 4:40 PM
                        I figured since I have not been able to get situated enough that it don't hurt to paint yet I had to set my other project to the side for now. I began work on the base for the Panther the other noght. Got the Sculpey all modled out and baked. I did a test run with the scenery items and I think it os going to come out great. I usually have lots of doubts about stuff like this. Hope fully I can get to some painting tonite and once I get some done on it I'll try and get some pics up.
                        Sure has been alot of great work posted since I took my small break, can't wait to see everyones finished product.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 4:54 PM
                        welcome back LQ
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 4:56 PM
                        Larry, 5 it is, thanks :)
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                        spector822002
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                        • From: Southern Maine
                        Posted by spector822002 on Friday, January 16, 2004 6:29 PM
                        Dwight: are you going to have flames shooting out of the engine compartment like the real ausf D did at kursk ( the russians first look at the panther I believ e) I understand Kursk was a disaster for the Panthers , out of 250 panthers almost all were out of action in the first day ( insufficient engine cooling caused fires ) and the tanks had to be deserted ,,,, nothing like going to the battlefield with a lemon huh ! Can you say M-16? Woops did I say that ? Building an ausf D here too . It has been a nice model to assemble ( doing the same dragon you did ) went together pretty fast actually , lots of people complain about dragon , but i have built a few of thier models and I love the detail on them ! Now its time to finish that Karl gerat mortar I have about 3/4 done ! That thing is going to take a ton of paint for sure Great stuff posted the past couple of days ,... good work all ! Cool [8D]
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