ARMOR - Panther (PzKpfw V) Group Build (any scale)

yep i got a prety good idea of what i'll be doing as far as building goes. i probably won't use all of my pe, i might use some of the more important parts but i won't spend 4 hours trying to build a tiny tool clasp. the quality of the instructions i got with the pe leaves a lot to be desired too. paint-wise i'm not sure yet. maybe i'll paint it according to a drawing that was posted before or i'll make up my own camo

how are the instructions on the eduard pe set for those of you working with it?

Thanks for the info PantherLehr.
I spent my day off painting my son's room and I'm tired. I won't be complaining about cleaning the airbrush again. Anyway 2 days till P-Day (Panther day). Everyone know what their doing yet? Jon, which of your many kits is the lucky winner?

i ordered this book last week http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0887408125/qid=1070166956/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/103-2249220-5065401?v=glance&n=507846 and i just got it yesterday , i read it a little and so far all i can say is wow , more information in there than i ever wanted to know , 100's of pictures and very nice line drawings. prety much every single modification made to panthers from prototype to panther F is covered in the book along as, for most of them, the date they started making the modifications.

can't wait to get started , only 1 more day

Yea the cat today was a whole different result . Was not on purpose though I swear.

Sorry Chris, I read your other thread. Can't punish a child for an accident, but a cat......... At least you'll have it finished (told you you could do it) in time for the group build.

Eric- I almost have it whooped, only my 2 year old whooped the indi tracks alot better as such it will now have the rubber band ones instead. It is all together and the weathering started tonite, tried a new technique on it that looks pretty good, just afraid I may have over did it though. Should have finished pics up tommorow, it was a pretty good build and no matter how hard I try I can't slow down to much or I start to do to much to them. The table will be cleared for the Panther though on Mon. now if my extras just get here.

Tim, the only places I have dealt with are :
www.greatmodels.com
www.rollmodels.com
www.modelmecca.com

They are all good choices IMHO.

got the eduard barrel on ebay for 10 bucks , slow but sure. Looks like tank wont be here until the end of the week, so I should get the barrel around the time I get my new tank.

Timbo

If someone wouldnt mind could you email me a couple of links on places to get PE items.

Did you finish your Stuart Chris? Wow, you flew through that project, even with indy tracks.

Well hopefully that one day will be better than this day, I'm ready to start on something new now.

only one day left till the Kitty Build

Sounds great, I believe I will give it a shot. After all it does look pretty sweet, .

Thanks for all the reply's and im sure ill have many questions. Still waiting on my Panther to get shipped ordered it on the 24th and still says it is in the warehouse. Not sure when Ill get it, hopefully soon. I know that the holidays slows things down a bit.

Thanks for all the replys

Timbo

I am thinking of leaving off the side skirts to Dave. PIcs I have seen of some without them look better than the one on the box that has them.

HI Tim

i have only just started again after a 20yrs[:0]

My first kit wa the Tamiya Panther G late and i was also tempted by all the after market stuff out there! in the end i went for the Aber PE Grill set and side skirts which i was very to find didnt include the fenders + hangers so i ended up getting the Aber fender set. PE makes such a diference it got to be worth it. Then i didnt use the skirts as i dont want to cover the tracks up, more bit for the spares box

I now have six more kits and five of them have got PE sets. The Eduard sets look a little easier than the Aber ones ( there were some tiny tiny tiny bits in the Panther set i couldnt work out what they were!!) and i havent found them too hard yet! I have now got an Etchmate as i have a full Aber detail set that im going to need it for! im not ging use a steel rules and tweesers again

The only thing to be carfull of is once you start with PE there is no going back

so thats my. If you read back on this thread you will see i had the same dilema, now i have ordered the Eduard barrel and Detail set!!

Tim, I'm doing the same one and I have never tried any aftermarket stuff out before either, but I have the eduard barrel and pe grills coming for this one. Kit already had pe zim.Got to try the new areas out sometime and a group build is the best time to do it since you'll have others doing the same thing. I say go for it and try it. This place is great for trying out new tecniques cause you can always pop a question up if you have a problem.

Hello again,

Just a question, I know I said I was going to do a panther g early, tamiya straight from the box, But after some surfin and reading I have a question to ask, since I am knew might as well say to modeling, since I havent built a model in several years, not counting some warhammer 40K models. I was wondering if the Eduard barrel, and the photo etched set would be a little too much for me.. whew... but they look awfully good

Sorry about the Dorgan name, earlier on a post or two, is my name from another forum.

Modeling Fiend aka. Tim :real name

Petbat

i couldnt help it!

I got the Eduard PE and Barrel

Not the tracks, they cost £23 in the UK



SOOOO i got an Etchmate instead not very good logic either!

QUOTE: Originally posted by box1 So what do you guys think....OOB or not? need to make my mind up if im going to get the parts for a 1st Dec start!!

OOB is 'quick and dirty.'........but modified is 'leisurly and Filthy (or sick, mad or any of those adjectives my kids use these days)'.

It's gonna be a long build, so why not make the best of it? Okay, PE modified can cost twice as much (or much more with Fruil tracks) as the original kit, but it takes twice as long to build this way. Technically, you'd buy and start another kit when the first was finished anyway - so the end result is same cost over the same period (Logic was not my strongest subject, but this excuse works for me)

Thanks Captin Caveman!!!

I didnt know they used the same gun!?

found it at Hannants so may as well get it, and the PE, not sure on tracks. sound like a lot of work.

it is the Late barrel for the Henshel kingtiger and the tamiya late jagdpanther
theres photos of them on the Eduard web site
mine was about £6

Caveman

Is the Eduard barrel for the Kingtiger/Jagdpanther good for the LATE Jagdpanther (two pice barrel)?

I think i may splash out on PE




And tracks








Oh and way not a barrel if i can find the right one!!

i know ive got the Eduard barrels for a Dragon A a Tamiya G and a Tamiya Jagdpanther and PE sets for them all aswell

at the start of this i knew what i was going to do but more and more ideas have popped in my head

You're running out of time Jon. P-Day (Panther day) is only 4 days away.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Dave your going to have to make your own mind up
i dont think ive seen the photo you metioned but ive read that some German tanks in and around Berlin were painted similar to the Russian tanks

but the Eduard barrel for the Kingtiger/Jagdpanther is very nice
and im after some Frui Model tracks

i havnt made my mind up my self yet ive got a couple of kits im thinking of doing

Box1, you might as well go all out. I would definately get new tracks and some rear deck grilles. Barrel? 50/50 on those. Of course it's totally up to you on how much time and money you want to invest.

Not familiar with the camo job, but if anyone has photos or drawings, I wouldn't mind a peek.

"it is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Help!!

Now that i have decided to join inwith this build i cant make up my mind what to do

I have a Tamiya Jagdpanther late and i was going to do it OOB BUT!!! now im not sure Eduard PE? Barrel? Track? Im just too tempted

So what do you guys think....OOB or not? need to make my mind up if im going to get the parts for a 1st Dec start!!


Lastly: I remember seeing a pic of a Panther in Berlin in 45 with what looked a bit like an urban pattern camo ( i think it was Green base with white blocks) Has anyone else seen a camo like this? I belive the gremans were playing with urban camos in the last months of the war. if so do you have any links?

Just felt like having a bit of fun and doing an urban pattern camo on the Jagdpanther

QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68 Nice JP Brian, I like that camo scheme. What did you use on the muzzle and exhaust?

Thank ya, Sir!
Nothing special on the muzzle brake or exhausts. Just some straight Tamiya XF-1 Flat Black dusted with the AB on the muzzle brake, and a straight brushing of darkened XF-56 Metallic Gray on the exhausts. I use the Metallic Gray for everything metal (machinegun barrels, tools, cables, trax), in varying shades.

As I mentioned, there's been no weathering at all done yet, so I'll rust up the exhausts a bit and give the rest of the vehicle a dusty, mildly dirty look, heavy on dried rain-streak type weathering, to depict a fairly new, undamaged vehicle that's just been sitting outside for a while.

I don't think it would be unreasonable to assume that JPs got painted in the ambush scheme.
There was alot of variation from specified schemes on all sides during the war.

Nice JP Brian, I like that camo scheme.
What did you use on the muzzle and exhaust?

QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman Nice job Brian. That's a very nice paint job. Where Jagdpanthers ever painted in ambush scheme? Never seen one to my knowledge.

Thanks, T-man.
I can't recall seeing ambush on a JP either. Nor can I recall ever seeing one in the camo I did! I just did it based on those kinda diagonal-striped camo patterns I've seen, and I chose the olive, dark yellow, and panzer gray based on some text I read about the possibility of that combo late in the war. Plus I thought it'd be an interesting combo! And when you're dealing with the old Tamiya 1/25 JP, accuracy really isn't the point. The point is FUN!

Thanks for the info Kenneth. Thanks also Jon for backing me up so to speak. Just 5 more days.

Nice job Brian. That's a very nice paint job. Where Jagdpanthers ever painted in ambush scheme? Never seen one to my knowledge.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee