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The Official F4U Corsair Group Build 4/01/08 - rolling end date

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, December 5, 2008 10:47 PM

Sean- I am more concerned for your COrsair!  You have put so much blood and sweat into that bird I hate to see her relegated to the parts bin.  I really do hope you are able to find a way to fix her.  I had a Corsair go south last year, reason being my rush to get her into the paint shop.  During the strip and repaint, I broke off a wing and ended up scrapping her. Disapprove [V]

As for my troubles, they have only surfaces thus far on Tamiya builds.  I LOVE Tamiya kits, but recently have been having a lot of trouble with the seams.  I posted asking for some help here, but not much help yet. Sigh [sigh]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Summit on Friday, December 5, 2008 10:40 PM

My fellow American Corsair fans Jeff, Frank and Aaron ...thats as much as I could think up for a speech Laugh [(-D]But Thanks for the kind words Thumbs Up [tup] I really was not too shocked , as my mind flashed back to being a kid and remembering the song "The Witch is Dead" from The Wizard of Oz....Ahhh Judy Garland how I did love thee Tongue [:P]...ooops sorry back on track Blush [:I]

Jeff- Easy fix - Take a piece of paper from your printed and cut it down to fuse length and a little taller. Lay it over your pattern and shetch over the border . Remove and trim off and discard what would be the light colored portion. Tape your pattern to where it is about 1/8 " lower then the original paint. Roll a piece or several small pieces of tape into little tubes no larger then 3/16" diameter. Lift the bottom edge of your paper template and place the tape tubes about 1/4 " from the bottom to give a little lift. Respray over the bottom edge of the template and it will give you your soft edge....

 Frank - I am more concerned over your problem then mine, what type of cement and superglue are you using ? Regular hobby stuff or department store bargin type ? Something is having too hot of a reaction over time to cause that.  

Aaron - Thanks for being a great cheerleader, no I dont want to see you dressed up as one (unless you wear those boots Laugh [(-D] ) Thanks for the terrific post, it really made me laugh.. Just for you I will re~examine the cardboard box of chinese plastic in a day or so. 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by firesmacker on Friday, December 5, 2008 10:24 PM

Ummm....errrr...YEAH! WHAT AaRON SAID!!!....

WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR? HELL NO! AND IT AIN'T OVER NOW!

So, anyway, good luck bro...Thumbs Up [tup]

Regards,

Jeff

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, December 5, 2008 10:13 PM

Boohoo [BH] Sean! Never give up! Never surrender!  We are attacking constantly and are not interested in holding on to anything but the Corsair! Your gonna hold onto it by the nose and kick it the tail! Your gonna kick the dickens outta it all the time and go through it like poop through a goose!

Now remember no such and such ever built a Corsair by letting it die for it'a country! He built it because the other poor dumb such and such couldn't! 

Like Mac Arthur the F4U shall return! 

Shock! Anger! Denial! no acceptance only the desire to kick some behind!!!!

Get it glued Baby!

 Good job on the other one! Jeff! Get her done with grit and determination!

Frank Avoid superglue and liquid cement! One or the other my best advice. Fill thin seams with other less prodigious means! Heck they are Tamiya kits? Seams? Must be some optivisor!!!! Need one of those!

All right you so and so's You know how I feel! I would be proud to build a mosdel with you anytime! Anywhere! and that is all.............Captain [4:-)]

 Sean there is no way you can let your self be beaten by plastic made in China! Your an American! Gorilla glue it! Magic tape it! Heck spit on it!

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, December 5, 2008 9:50 PM

Sean- OMG, that is horrible news!  I am so sorry to hear that.  That is one of the worst things about this as a hobby, having your pride and joy dismantled for parts.  Yesterday must have been a bad day for Corsairs. 

I pulled the twins out to work on them yesterday, and found that all of the seams (which were perfect a month ago) have sunken in and need to be completely redone.  I used liquid cement, and superglue as a filler.  This is the 3rd and 4th time I have run into this.  Not sure what I am doing wrong, but I need to figure it out.

Jeff- For softening up those lines, I don't think pastels would work very well.  My solution (if you're up for it) would be to take a very diluted version of the darker color of the two at the damarcation line and lightly spray it over the edges.  That would add some feathered edges to the colors.  I would try it on a scrap piece first, to be sure it will work for you.

Frank 

 

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Posted by firesmacker on Friday, December 5, 2008 9:49 PM

SEAN! AWWW CRAP!

Is there any way you can use something thin to apply some CA and make it all stick? If you can do that and maybe carefully add some sort of wash perhaps you can hide the glue. Give it a shot. Hate to see you get so far and then just chuck it. Can't look any worse than mine...

Regards,

Jeff

 

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Posted by firesmacker on Friday, December 5, 2008 9:44 PM

Thanks Frank.

Bro, I hear you. Can't tell you how many times I had to put a kit up because of "issues". I guess thats the way to go instead of trying to "force it". We still have 5 months to do this so no hurry.

I mentioned the hard camo lines before. I was thinking using some sort of pastel dusting to soften them. Have you ever heard of this being done before? And if so, do you have any tips? Any ideas would be appreciated.

Regards,

Jeff

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Posted by Summit on Friday, December 5, 2008 9:41 PM

Jeff -All~right Thumbs Up [tup] She is looking Real Good with its legs under her. Nice thing about photos, they can really make the little things stand out and be noticed before it is too late. I know how excited you must be getting to have it almost done Propeller [8-]

 

 

I have some rather disturbing news, yesterday removing my Corsair out of the spraybooth I brushed the port side wing against the top and knocked her out of my hand for a free flight crash. Boohoo [BH] Plastic could be repaired but just about the whole PE office did not fare so well. She is dead Dead [xx(] to be stripped of salvagable parts. I guess I will finish up my little Matchbox 1/72 Corsair for this one. Sigh [sigh]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, December 5, 2008 9:37 PM

Great looking progress Jeff!  You're really making me want to work on mine. Approve [^]

Having some trouble with mine, so they have been set aside for a while. Disapprove [V]

Frank 

 

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Posted by firesmacker on Friday, December 5, 2008 9:25 PM

Landing Gear attached. I have historically had problems with this so this time I assembled them as one piece and then attached them.

I noticed the STBD wheel was a little crooked after I took the photo. I tweaked it into shape. All that is left is the fiddly bits and decals. Already hit it with Future so hopefully decals will happen this weekend.

Thanks for looking and as always, any and all comments are welcome.

Regards,

Jeff

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Posted by Gigatron on Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:38 AM

Looking good, Sean Thumbs Up [tup]

 

But it looks like he had a cylinder fire and toasted his panel a bit Laugh [(-D].

-Fred

EDIT: shape of the new exhaust stain looks better, but I'd darken it up a bit

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Posted by Summit on Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:36 AM
Ok -Guys, looking for smoe input here - Better, Worse or Leave it Blue ? B or W(scotchbrite  and blue paint I have plenty of )
Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Summit on Thursday, December 4, 2008 9:50 AM
Whoops !  anybody out there have any 1/32 Japanese "kill" decals ? Had a slight mishap Big Smile [:D]Oops [oops] earlier respraying the front of the fuse blue ... 
Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Summit on Thursday, December 4, 2008 8:22 AM

 simpilot34 wrote:
Sean that is really looking good mate!!!!!Thumbs Up [tup] Just one thing and it's prolly just a nitpicky thing that can be ignored, but just noticed the exhaust staining comes straight back. All pics I have seen of the staining follow the airflow of the wing as it sweeps up and over. I wouldn't bother changing it now but it's just myMy 2 cents [2c]

Richie - I know exactly what you are referring to. I kept cutting out "masking tape" streaks for patterns, the ones that had the shaped curve to them just looked horrible. I am thinking either the exhaust are too high maybe or I was havinfg a "bad art" day. I will use some pastels and trail down the edge some more from the airbrushed burn to try to improve the curve. 

Thanks guys for checking in and the comments Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, December 4, 2008 8:01 AM

Looking good Mike!  Looks like that seat could use some belts. Wink [;)]

I am planning on working on the -2N today, as I am off and I hear those poor lil' Corsairs calling for me.

Frank 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, December 4, 2008 7:42 AM

Hi guys,

I promised pics of my Tamiya -1D, and here they are:

Engine painted and assembled: I sprayed the cylinders a mix of chrome silver and satin black, then treated them with two coats of Promodeller wash. I sprayed the gear case gloss aircraft gray, and used more wash to pick out details and dirty her up a tad. I considered getting fancy with the detail painting but at the last minute I pulled out reference photos and of course found that different models of the R-2800 have different details, and many Corsairs of the -1 series seemed to have plain gray and metallic engines... SoI left it at that.

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Next, the engine and exhaust unit are mounted to the fuselage:

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And lastly, the cowl is mounted over the engine. Note the filled and sanded wingroot joint.

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Today I also painted the gear bay doors on the sprue, exteriors FS 36622 MM enamel, same as the lower hull will be, and interiors the mixed acrylic Interior Green. They'll get a panel wash treatment to pick out the details. That'll be all on this project until at least next week, when my next major task should be mounting the wings.

Cheers,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, December 4, 2008 5:54 AM
Sean that is really looking good mate!!!!!Thumbs Up [tup] Just one thing and it's prolly just a nitpicky thing that can be ignored, but just noticed the exhaust staining comes straight back. All pics I have seen of the staining follow the airflow of the wing as it sweeps up and over. I wouldn't bother changing it now but it's just myMy 2 cents [2c]
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by dirtball on Thursday, December 4, 2008 2:28 AM
  Sean, PM inbound.....Harv
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Posted by dirtball on Thursday, December 4, 2008 2:03 AM

  I want to thank ALL of you! You are like family to me. I cant tell you what it means for your support.Small update: no surgery today. Seams her pancrase(?) is realy pissed of at her and no surgery till its happy. Mabey tomorrow or Friday. And they wont let her come home till the surgery is done. So I worked tonight. Need to pay the bills you know.

   Summit, thank your son for the joke.It put a smile on this weary face, and I needed it.Thanks again all........Harv

"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 9:02 PM

Ditto from Down Under Harv -- hope she's home and rested real soon. I can vouch for it being a bit you can pretty much do without, the possibly-soon-to-be-Mrs-T.bolt lost hers many years ago and hasn't really missed it.

A bit of progress is occuring, the engine is nearly done, i hope to have a couple of shots up soon.

Cheers,

Mike

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Posted by DrewH on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 8:53 PM

Harv - Hope all goes good with your wife. Angel [angel] I truly hate it when mine goes to the hospital.

 Sean - looking sharp! Thumbs Up [tup] Can't wait to see it finished Approve [^]

Take this plastic and model it!
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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 6:07 PM

Sean- Is that one of Kenneth Walsch's rides?  I like it! Approve [^]

Harv- Hope everything goes OK with your wife.  I'll keep you both in my thoughts and prayers.

Frank 

 

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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 5:59 PM

Arron - thanks for stopping by, next time bring some donuts and coffee [:)Yeah!! [yeah]

Richie - Thank you, I am beginning to find less parts scattered around the bench and in boxes,,, Yipee ! 

another update, I almost forgot I needed to decorate this bird before it really gets beat up..

Navy GO NAVY !

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 4:45 PM

Looking good Sean!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great work!!!!Thumbs Up [tup]

Harv hope all is well with your wife! My wife had hers out a few years ago and it was sucha relief. She'll be fine once it's out. One of those things your body can live without. All the best!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:34 PM
 Well all right Sean! Way to stick it out! Your an inspiration for all my tough builds! I only wish I could make them look as nice! Bow [bow]
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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:23 PM

The Corsair has made its way back to the bench. Been so long since I looked at it I forgot where I left off... This morning looked like a good day to test fire the old bird up. I was quite surprised at how much it popped and sputtered and smoked. To my dismay it burned off quite a bit of paint down the side of the fuse. Shock [:O]

BP To hear what it sounded like watch this short Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkcX0KGIBwk

 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:01 PM
Harv,  Hope your wife is well.  That is a painfull experience but she is going to be so much better after the operation.  I've been there.

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Posted by piperjoe on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 7:52 AM

Removed self from build.

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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 11:06 PM

My son just told me this funny

Q- What did the Dirt say when it rained ? 

A- If this keeps up my name will be MUD  Laugh [(-D] Laugh [(-D] 

Well I thought it was funny...  Whistling [:-^]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 11:03 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
 I'll be keeping you both in my thoughts.  Wishing a speedy  recovery for her and a return to a happy healthy Holiday for the whole Family! Cowboy [C):-)]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]  Yes Harv, my Family sends the Both of you our Best Wishes.  Smile [:)]

 

 

 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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