The Official F4U Corsair Group Build 4/01/08 - rolling end date

Summit wrote:

Chris, out of the reference books I have, the color photos show the green.

okay, thanks.

I don't know if I will committ to building a Corsair or not but since it's a year long I just might. I received my order from Hannants today, and I have my 1/72 Blacksheep (Korea) decals for my Italeri F4U-4, Hi-tech PE set and quickboost engine for my Revell F4U-5. The inspiration is there.

Cheers

Gigatron wrote:

Hey Sean, As someone who has built several of the P&W R2800 double wasps, I can tell you what I've found through my research.  The gear covers are light grey, the piston cases can be either steel or aluminium in color, the pushrod cases are either black or aluminium in color and the rocker covers are either black or aluminium in color.  I've seen ignition wiring in aluminium, grey, black and copper color.  Pretty much any combination of those is correct.  I don't know if they came that way from the factory or those were restoration colors.  Unfortunately, most pictures of war-time engines are black and white. -Fred

I was looking through searching for cockpit colors (Tamiya specs it as: XF-3 + XF-5 (1:1) - but I do not use tamiya so I picked Green Zinc Chromate from MM. is it correct ??

Also while I found your post, I remember that John mentioned once P&W DoubleWasp had cylinders painted black (EDIT: probobly during the manufacturing process they got black color, I doubt those were painted ). After the war those were aluminum color but during the war cylinders were black.

All the engines in museums have aluminum color (art least what I saw) including this one:

Thank you for posting the close-ups of the R-2800 gzt, they are awesome!

Cheers

you are welcome

so, what about this tamiya references for cockpit colors ?? What exactly is it? Interior green ?? Euro Interior Green ???

I have my new IWATA HP airbrush and I have to test it  

LOL

In fact both Tamiya and Hasegawa have pretty nice detail level already there. Few touches (Frank did an exceptional detailing on that engine ) like few wires will do the trick.

Hi Guys

This might be a dumb question BUT

when assembling the pit I realised that when painted,paint to paint surfaces dont stick too well,

so do you guys pre assemble as much as possible prior to painting,paint then glue after removing paint from the bonding surfaces,or what

the areas I was considering as problematic are the pit and landing gear

Opinions please

Chris aka spong 

Those Aluminum cylinders are way too clean. 

I have the Trumpy 1/32 F4U-4 built with first paint. Some decals on the wings. I'm keeping the wings off for now.

Greg- Thanks for the excellent photos, and the engine compliment!   As for your question on the interior color, I believe that Interior Green would be correct for the cockpit, though early Corsairs also had the interior parts painted black.  I'll do some more digging in my reference pile to see what I can come up with.

Chris- I usually build up cockpits and LG into subassemblies, then paint.  WHere parts need to be glued, I remove the glue from the mating surfaces before assembling them.  HTH!

Oscar- OUTSTANDING WORK THERE!  Nice looking paint job, and decals!

Oscar, she's looking good mate!

Cheers

I see nice progress here !

Finally I got a MDC Conversion kit and I painted "green" all the parts that required this color (Tamiya XF-3+XF-5). I used my new Iwata AB (finally) and it is just great !!!!

Tomorrow may start with cockpit but have to wait for some eduard stuff. In the meantime while waiting  I may finish my Spitfire  

Greg-

Glad you got your MDC set and Iwata!  I am anxious to hear how you like that resin set, as I may get one for my next project- an FAA Corsair.  I applied my decals last night, ended up using the kit ones (Tamiya) as the ones from my intended Superscale had an odd shade of blue on the circles.  I also discovered to my dismay that although the sheet is supposedly designed with the Tammy kit in mind, the numbers are WAY too large (look more like 1/32) and the checkerboards are not long enough to reach around the cowl.  GRRR!  So, plan B.  After drooling over photos of the FG-1D recently sold by Provenance Fighter Sales, I opted to add ONLY the stars and bars, a few stencils, and the bu. numbers /model designators.  The FG-1D has a very plain look, which I found quite appealing.  So, mine will have no squadron codes or numbers.  Chalk it up to artistic liscense, or perhaps the aircraft in question was flying with the squadron within a day or so of it's arrival and they had not yet applied any squadron markings.  Either way, I like it so here she is!

   Frank, most excelent! The kit decals look good. Seams they went on very well. Nice to see progress. What a bummer about the Superscale ones. I`ve had good luck with the ones I`ve used.

  Oscar, Yours is looking great also! If I had a -4 thats the decals I would of used. My dad was stationed in Olathe  in the mid 60`s. Lived there for about 4 yrs.So I always wanted to do the one your building. To bad you cant get those any more. If you happen to find another set, let me know 

Yes those kit decals are looking good.  Corsairs don't need decoration to look good.  It's too bad your Superscale decals didn't work out, but that little problem didn't seem to phase you any.  She looks good. 

And thanks again for the painting info.

Semper Fi,

Chris

ridleusmc wrote:

...Corsairs don't need decoration to look good.

I couldn't agree more!

Thanks Chris, I appreciate that!  And, glad to help.

Frank - looking great! Question for you...did you use the Tamiya "recommended" paint mixing for your scheme (or even Tamiya sprays), or did you go with another brand of paint using the FS numbers?

Another forum member nearing his FIVE THOUSANDTH POST - planning on some sort of a/c buying spree to celebrate the occasion?

oscardeuce - really nice crisp build so far

Daywalker - Hey, looks good to me and your explanation is entirely plausible ;) and your paint job is excellent

dupes and Jmart- Thank you very much!

dupes wrote:

Frank - looking great! Question for you...did you use the Tamiya "recommended" paint mixing for your scheme (or even Tamiya sprays), or did you go with another brand of paint using the FS numbers? Another forum member nearing his FIVE THOUSANDTH POST - planning on some sort of a/c buying spree to celebrate the occasion?

For the paint, I used Gunze #H-54 (Navy Blue).  I have seen profiles and photos of these with what appears to be two different dark blue colors.  I am not sure if it is the weathering effect causing some aircraft to appear lighter, or what.  I tend to weather my birds quite a bit so the base color will be altered in the end.  I've never done an all-blue one before, curious as to how she turns out!

I can't believe it, 5000 posts!  Man, I talk too much.   A buying spree is DEFINATELY in order me thinks!

Looking great Frank!! I like the color, is just right.

 congrats on 5K!   Me thinks you need to order a couple more Tamiya Corsairs

DrewH wrote:

Looking great Frank!! I like the color, is just right.  congrats on 5K!   Me thinks you need to order a couple more Tamiya Corsairs

Thanks Drew!  And, me thinks you may be right!

   Well guys, got my last delivery Sat. Jerry Rutman AM resin prop & wheels. I like them alot! I also got all my P51C stuff also. So if your interested in the stang stuff, I`ll post on aircraft forum. So here ya go............Harv

I've been working slowly but surely. 

The Pratt & Whitney Double Wasp is done.  At first I didn't like this engine and I considered going the aftermarket route.  The aft bank of cylinders stretches all the way back to the firewall, and it looks toyish.  However, I realized that the faces of the cylinders look pretty good.  The faces are really the only visible part unless you do some surgery to open the cowling.  The plug wires are from my Eduard PE set. 

I'm going to attach the cowl before I paint.  I made and applied a simple little mask.  It's not important, I just like the way it looks.

Here's an overview of the model. 

Maybe I can start applying paint on the weekend.  Like Mick Jaggar said "I want to Paint it Black"

Semper Fi,

Chris

Thanks Darren, Thanks Harv,

You're right Harv, the Nose (Crankcase housing) should be grey.  Actually, I did paint it grey before I gave it a dirty-black-nasty wash.  The wash was pretty heavy and it got rid of the bright sparkle of the Aluminum cylinder heads.  The grey crankcase housing got a heavy dose as well.  I stippled the engine with alcohol when the wash was half-dry.  It gives a splotchy effect.  To my eye it looks right for a greasy, old, oil stained engine.  I could be wrong.  But you're right, the crankcase housing should be grey.  I just wanted to cover mine with oil. 

Semper Fi,

Chris